Liefeld quits DC "for good"
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Posted on: 2012-08-22 13:40 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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This sums up my feelings on Liefeld's departure from NewDC. I'm sure as a person he's probably a nice guy, but his art was just horrible.
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Now if he could just say he's quitting ALL comics....
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I wonder what Greg Land's expression was when he heard the news.
Wait, he only has one.
At least he's maintained a level of professionalism during the whole ordeal.
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Funny thing is, if Rob Liefeld wasn't in comics, I bet his artwork wouldn't be as hated by many as it seems to be now.
I've seen terrible artists on DA get praised to often that I wonder if the Rob Liefeld hate just isn't follow the leader type hate going on 
As for him quitting DC52. Sounds like they're having lots of problems. Likely problems with both uppity artists who can't do the job they're hired to do (like 1 comic a month, because they have to take 6 weeks to draw it) and the editors.
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Funny thing is, if Rob Liefeld wasn't in comics, I bet his artwork wouldn't be as hated by many as it seems to be now.
I've seen terrible artists on DA get praised to often that I wonder if the Rob Liefeld hate just isn't follow the leader type hate going on |
I'm a little more openly critical about so-called professional art that I'm potentially meant to pay for. The two artists in that vein that I think I've been most critical of over the years are Rob Liefeld and Larry Elmore. But it's certainly true that Liefeld wouldn't have as many haters if he was just some guy on Deviant Art - less public exposure would necessarily mean fewer haters. However, there's a chance that he'd still have become the memescot for bad art.
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Isn't that supposed to be "for the greater good"?
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At least thumbs and feet will return to some DC characters now.
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I know you didn't compare Elmore to Mr No Feet Tiny Hands Bajillion Teeth and Spines Are Optional, but seeing them in the same sentence made my brain go into a test pattern anyways. Despite his own fairly frequent proportion problems (especially in paintings with more than two people), Elmore is who got me into fantasy art.
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When I see terrible art on Deviant Art I tend to ignore it rather than criticize it. Unless the artist has it marked for constructive criticism, in which case I will try to find something to praise before trying to gently point out flaws.
I'm a little more openly critical about so-called professional art that I'm potentially meant to pay for. The two artists in that vein that I think I've been most critical of over the years are Rob Liefeld and Larry Elmore. But it's certainly true that Liefeld wouldn't have as many haters if he was just some guy on Deviant Art - less public exposure would necessarily mean fewer haters. However, there's a chance that he'd still have become the memescot for bad art. |
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It looks like his key beef seems to be with editorial. Seems to imply that there's a very bad 'Too many chefs and one pot' scenario going on at DC and looks like his exit also backs up George Perez's interview when he left Superman. There's also speculation that Dan Dido is just a figurehead at DC and not really in control of anything.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
As for him quitting DC52. Sounds like they're having lots of problems. Likely problems with both uppity artists who can't do the job they're hired to do (like 1 comic a month, because they have to take 6 weeks to draw it) and the editors. |
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Anybody who makes those kinds of rants/complaints about his place of employment publicly is unprofessional. I don't care how good/bad an artist he is. The most he should say is, "we had creative differences."
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Anybody who makes those kinds of rants/complaints about his place of employment publicly is unprofessional. I don't care how good/bad an artist he is. The most he should say is, "we had creative differences."
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Then I noticed how companies don't like to give two weeks notice for layoffs, yet to want employees to give 2 weeks notice if they want to quit.
Not to mention Liefeld is giving what the majority of Americans seem to want "We must know everything about everything"
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You know. I used to believe that as well.
Then I noticed how companies don't like to give two weeks notice for layoffs, yet to want employees to give 2 weeks notice if they want to quit. |
This behavior just makes it difficult for anyone to want to hire him.
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You know. I used to believe that as well.
Then I noticed how companies don't like to give two weeks notice for layoffs, yet to want employees to give 2 weeks notice if they want to quit. |
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I wonder what Greg Land's expression was when he heard the news.
Wait, he only has one. |
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Originally Posted by BrandX
You know. I used to believe that as well.
Then I noticed how companies don't like to give two weeks notice for layoffs, yet to want employees to give 2 weeks notice if they want to quit. Not to mention Liefeld is giving what the majority of Americans seem to want "We must know everything about everything" |
No, for every quality person who would due their best even up to the buzzer theres a dozen who would milk the clock at best, and actually do harm at worst. There is a requirement for a severance in most states if due notice isnt given.....so its not all bad.
Good riddance. He ruined Hawk and Dove before it even got started, and well...the rest is his usual stuff. Still, watching the creative teams shift around as they do its no surprise to realize editorial is a clusterfornication over there. I like most of the books, but I don't have to see the back end either.
I might be the only person here who likes the New 52, so I'll just see what they get to replace Liefeld.
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I think the only pictures of Elmore's I've seen over the years that I liked were from The Complete Dwarves Handbook. Other than that, I've found his work to be bland, not remarkably well-painted, and often oddly-proportioned. I'd say he's not nearly as bad as Liefeld, but he comes up in fantasy art discussions about as often as Liefeld comes up in comic book art discussions and thus I've been similarly critical of him by dint of opportunity. |
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I know you didn't compare Elmore to Mr No Feet Tiny Hands Bajillion Teeth and Spines Are Optional, but seeing them in the same sentence made my brain go into a test pattern anyways. Despite his own fairly frequent proportion problems (especially in paintings with more than two people), Elmore is who got me into fantasy art.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
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It's good that we won't see his eye sore art work now.
It's also good in that if what he's saying and implying are true that perhaps nuDC will fail and classic DC returns.
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