Martial Combat and Martial Assault

I would be all over playing a Martial Assault/Martial Combat Blaster-Ninja!

Spend money/points on alternate animation packages? Hell yeah. In some cases the animations on a power can be as important (or even more important) to the character than costuming.

This video has it's place, and yeah, it's funny, but because of it, I just can't bring myself to use Piercing Rounds on Dual Pistols... which sucks, because the numbers under the hood on Piercing Rounds are great (I wish Assault Rifle used that "long thin cone" on Sniper Shot for the whole "Quigley Down Under" bit).

In relation to Ki Push, I'd really like to know if the attacker is locked into an animation for the duration of the "repel" portion, or after activating it, can we immediately move into another attack (like Empty Clips or Executioner Shot, which I think would look awesome) and shoot at the target while they're flying backward? With most of the melee KB powers in Blaster secondaries, this isn't much of an option because the process is over so quickly, but as long as this takes, I think it would be amazingly cool if possible. On the flip side, it could really suck to be stuck in a long animation (like when Sands of Mu misses, or even when it doesn't, and you're still animating after the target recovers and returns fire ).

While I would definitely love more ancillary pools, especially for the ATs that have thematic holes where they don't need to, I don't really feel there's a need to open them up sooner than they already do. If anything, maybe another three levels earlier, in case it's the tier 9 of your primary that's a stinker and not your secondary. But earlier than that I think ruins the point of using them to fill in holes in your AT. If you can fill in the holes early in your career, what's the point in having holes?

Well... looking at it it seems thats true yet not that bad. I mean, it's an AoE attack in it's entirety (unlike the version Doms will get) that makes it rarely inefficient. Would be nice if it got a secondary effect like -def or Fire DoT chance.


Hmmm...

That may be big topic for another thread.

Web Granade does no damage but it lowers recharge by 40%, it's single target but its a big -recharge debuff that translates into a lot less damage taken. If there is an issue with this power, it would be an issue with all powers.

I sort of like Caltrops, its a great CC power.

Shurken is no Dark Blast, but it has decent DPA.

Targeting Drone may be too expensive today (it was mighty useful before IOs but that advantage may be obsolete.)

Not saying it's not worth looking a the set, though. Just does not seem to be broken-bad. But you may be right, this may be as good of a moment as any to bring the power up.

No it didn't. Have some common sense. Previous developers did not take on the task; Arbiter Hawk and the powers/animations crew that came Post-Castle/BaBs are the ones who did this. While we may not know exactly how long this set has been in development, it sure as hell hasn't been 8 years. We haven't even been asking for it that long.

We've been asking for it for about that long. But we know the set's been in development for probably about six months.

The issue I would have is that I find it hard to imagine someone who is superstrong but not have some degree of enhanced toughness. Some KB protection at least. If I'm strong I shouldn't be easy to knock down.

So, whilst I would like SS as a blaster secondary, I wouldn't want a direct port. I would like to see some KB protection, and perhaps something like Rise to the Challenge from WP. I.e. modded like MA. I would much rather wait longer for something good, than have something rubbish right now.

In my defense, I only ever saw a true desire for a Martial Arts secondary after Dual Pistols dropped. Doesn't change the fact that Butane's comment is akin to saying it took man 1800 years to invent the light bulb. There's no truth to that; we just didn't have the right people for the job yet. Same goes for Paragon Studios.

I got to say I am a bit disapointed with Martial Assault, out of personal expectations mostly.

I keept daydreaming of a Street Fighter inspired set that would use melee attacks and Hadouken fire balls for the ranged attacks.



I guess the concept still can happen if they end up creating a Chi Blast set in the future.

A Ki Blast set would be great, but I think for now Energy Blast will do. Same look, same damage type, probably the same effects.

Ki blast would not be so much energy. At least not the Street Fighter inspired one. It would be more of a Fire/Smashing thing. Not to mention: going back to the animation thing. If you make the animation, may as well just make the full set.

Not really. Now, Water Blast and Kinetick Melee on the other hand, have the perfect animations. The projectile in Energy Blast is also wrong, has to be more round with glowing/fiery aura.

Referring specifically to Martial Assault, which will be a Dominator secondary, Energy Blast won't work because that's a separate Assault.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

Well I also did jump into the character concept being possible if they do create a Chi Blast (or Ki Blast, if you prefer that spelling.)

A Chi Blast set also can end up being used as part of a Scrapper/Tanker/Brute/Stalker Epic pool further spreading the possibility of a Street Fighter that properly matches the Street Fighter mantra.

Oh yeah, Nal. People have been requesting for MA for blasters (any Ranged AT actually) since forever. I also remember there being non official COH Forum threads discussing MA for Ranged ATs popping up everywhere when I first started playing in 07.

The reason why you didn't get to see it often was because it normally was shot down pretty fast...kinda like how the Whips for Doms and the Dual Pistols threads were shot down very quickly...1 out of 2 aint bad no?

But then you'd be asking for Ki Control. Which, while it would be cool is not the next control set I'd want to see.

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Separate Customization has been in ever since customization was added - see: AR/TA/Mace Corruptors, who can have 3 different weapons and all the redraw anyone would ever need.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

Well, I wouldn't specifically be asking for it. But I didn't ask for it in the first place, and edited my post to not be worded as to put words in his mouth after he had addressed it in a subsequent post.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

Yeah, edited as soon as I posted and saw that you had replied already. It just hadn't been long enough to flag.

Kinetic Melee already contains a Chi Blast for the mentioned ATs, though, so I don't see much luck on the APP powers.

Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle it has gone from unconscionable to downright appalling that we have no way of measuring our characters' wetness.

Originally Posted by Brillig It's hard to beat the entertainment value of Whackjob Wednesdays.

I'd wager there more of them than there are invulnerable types who hit like little girls. But, to the point, consider characters like Starfire who definitely has superhuman strength, definitely does ranged blasts as her primary means of attack, but isn't "invulnerable". Now consider that all characters in CoH have enhanced toughness. All of them can take a few shotgun blasts to the chest at point blank. All of them can jump 10 feet straight up.


I don't personally object to this, but like I said, it took us this long just to get Martial Combat.


I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive.


Temp Invul in the Force epic doesn't turn Blasters into Scrappers. The epics don't fill holes completely and it wouldn't fill them any more if it was available at level 8 or 10. But earlier they would allow people to better realize their concepts instead of playing the character for a long time with them lacking one more thing that makes them unique. If you have a character like Deathstroke who's got a deep arsenal but favours melee, why does the worlds greatest assassin have to wait until the early 40s just to get a freaking pistol? (assuming Scrappers ever got a Firearms epic pool).

We can't have a freeform system, and ditching ATs isn't an option, but I'm for giving players as much freedom to realize any reasonable concept as possible without so many silly restrictions. Allowing a Scrapper to have Fire Blast or Laser Eye Beams at all but saying "but not until you're 40 levels into the character" is one such silly restriction, IMO.


I ask: why should superheroes have deep holes at all?




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No, it did not. If you're going to keep spitting that argument, do it right: It took us this long to get a dev team willing and capable of creating it.