DC plans to out a prominent character
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Posted on: 2012-05-21 08:58 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Probably not Wonder Woman. Definitely not Supes or Bats. I'm thinking Martian MAN-hunter. Get it? MAN-hunter. Get it? You see, he hunts MEN...
A prominent character, eh? Jimmy Olsen. Or perhaps Lex Luthor. 
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Didn't they already try this with one of the latest versions of Batwoman?
I guess maybe she wasn't "prominent" enough. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Didn't they already try this with one of the latest versions of Batwoman?
I guess maybe she wasn't "prominent" enough. *shrugs* |
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Why not Wonder Woman? Seems to me a tribe of Amazons living in a secluded location would find a way to make do.
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Originally Posted by Chazzmatazz
Probably not Wonder Woman. Definitely not Supes or Bats. I'm thinking Martian MAN-hunter. Get it? MAN-hunter. Get it? You see, he hunts MEN...
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DC already has a "gay Batman", Midnighter from Stormwatch.
Lobo perhaps?
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Is Lobo all that prominent these days? It would seem a bit odd, though they'd probably claim his extraordinarily lascivious behaviour was over-compensation...
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
DC already has a "gay Batman", Midnighter from Stormwatch.
Lobo perhaps? |
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
DC already has a "gay Batman", Midnighter from Stormwatch.
Lobo perhaps? |
That would be possibly the worst option - outing not a peripheral character, but a joke character who started as a parody of then-current comic trends.
Or you could see "Lobo comes out" as a meta-gag on the trend of random characters spontaneously coming out in media. Though that joke seems a little complicated to be making with, well, Lobo.
Sufferin' Sappho... probably not WW though.
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I'd laugh, but Lobo would probably kill me. And being from a different galaxy, busy, and currently wholly fictional would *not* stop him doing that.
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane
Lobo perhaps?
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Hmm we already have Batwoman, and since Hal and Sinestro are being replaced with a new GL, it might be him. Other than that the only logical choice would be Supergirl.
Eh, not really seeing the point in this except as maybe a publicity grab. If you are going do it, build it from the ground up, don't just suddenly go "Oh yeah, by the way..." That's just cheesey and screams of trying to hard.
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I guess it might be Supergirl as much as anyone else. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but has she ever had a serious boyfriend or male love interest in any of the comics? I know there was one in that horribly campy 80s era Supergirl movie, but I mean has she ever had a serious, long time boyfriend in any of the other comic book canon?
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Originally Posted by Dr_Illuminatis
Hmm we already have Batwoman, and since Hal and Sinestro are being replaced with a new GL, it might be him. Other than that the only logical choice would be Supergirl.
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The whole idea of "outing" a character like this just seems like something to do just because they can, not because it would actually improve anything. It's sort of like how Rowling "outed" Dumbledore almost on a whim. As far as I know it didn't really help or hurt his character in any way. It was like she did it just because she could.|
Originally Posted by Paladiamors
Eh, not really seeing the point in this except as maybe a publicity grab. If you are going do it, build it from the ground up, don't just suddenly go "Oh yeah, by the way..." That's just cheesey and screams of trying to hard.
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Trust me I have nothing against representing LGBT characters in comics. I just don't like characters getting majorly "re-imagined" for no legitimate reason either. I'd feel the same way if there was a non-hetro character that was suddenly rewritten to be straight. What's the point except it being some kind of publicity stunt?
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Didn't she fall in love with her superhorse/centaur?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I guess it might be Supergirl as much as anyone else. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but has she ever had a serious boyfriend or male love interest in any of the comics? I know there was one in that horribly campy 80s era Supergirl movie, but I mean has she ever had a serious, long time boyfriend in any of the other comic book canon?
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Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
Unless this character has a history to back this sudden "coming out," I don't think DC should try to jump the shark. Seems more like a political statement than anything (considering current hot topics). But if they've given reason in the past to question the characters orientation, then I'm all for it.
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While thats the way I see it more or less, I still think its just for the attention. But I do not agree and will NEVER agree with just suddenly having a character come out 'just because.' If they are written that way, or if they go through some pretty serious character development to get there then its one thing. But just suddenly going "Oh yeah, they uh, totally dig the same sex' ala Rawlings admission of Dumbledore ((I still say whatever, no he wasn't.)) is just, as some one else stated, jumping the shark.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
The whole idea of "outing" a character like this just seems like something to do just because they can, not because it would actually improve anything. It's sort of like how Rowling "outed" Dumbledore almost on a whim. As far as I know it didn't really help or hurt his character in any way. It was like she did it just because she could.
Trust me I have nothing against representing LGBT characters in comics. I just don't like characters getting majorly "re-imagined" for no legitimate reason either. I'd feel the same way if there was a non-hetro character that was suddenly rewritten to be straight. What's the point except it being some kind of publicity stunt? |
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I think we're basically in agreement. Like I said I -don't- favor characters getting rewritten just on an apparent political correctness whim.|
Originally Posted by Paladiamors
While thats the way I see it more or less, I still think its just for the attention. But I do not agree and will NEVER agree with just suddenly having a character come out 'just because.' If they are written that way, or if they go through some pretty serious character development to get there then its one thing. But just suddenly going "Oh yeah, they uh, totally dig the same sex' ala Rawlings admission of Dumbledore ((I still say whatever, no he wasn't.)) is just, as some one else stated, jumping the shark.
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I realize that even if the guy who originally created (pick a random character...) Jimmy Olsen always envisioned him to be non-hetero you can't really go against 50+ years of character history just because -now- it's more acceptable in popular culture to have LGBT characters in the comics than it used to be.
Let them go and create a whole bunch of new characters that are of any sexual orientation imaginable. But just because it's OK for Jimmy to be non-straight now doesn't mean it makes any sense to "magically" declare him to be that way.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you about Dumbledore. I heard the bit from Rawlings that Dumbledore was gay before I read the last two books, and keeping that in mind made a few things look different. Mostly, his relationship with the wizard he eventually took Death's wand from, and the events that lead to Dumbledore getting the wand from him. It made me realize that there could be a LOT more to that story that has yet to be told.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
But just suddenly going "Oh yeah, they uh, totally dig the same sex' ala Rawlings admission of Dumbledore ((I still say whatever, no he wasn't.)) is just, as some one else stated, jumping the shark.
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Yup, we're in agreement. I think the only thing we're kind of in disagreement on is the amount of attention they expect to get from it.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I think we're basically in agreement. Like I said I -don't- favor characters getting rewritten just on an apparent political correctness whim.
I realize that even if the guy who originally created (pick a random character...) Jimmy Olsen always envisioned him to be non-hetero you can't really go against 50+ years of character history just because -now- it's more acceptable in popular culture to have LGBT characters in the comics than it used to be. Let them go and create a whole bunch of new characters that are of any sexual orientation imaginable. But just because it's OK for Jimmy to be non-straight now doesn't mean it makes any sense to "magically" declare him to be that way. |
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I guess what makes Dumbledore's case a little bit different was that Rowling made her decree about him while the primary stories/movies about him were still being made. His character had not really been set in stone after decades of being established one way or the other the way a Lex Luthor or Wonder Woman has been.|
Originally Posted by Rabid_M
I'm going to have to disagree with you about Dumbledore. I heard the bit from Rawlings that Dumbledore was gay before I read the last two books, and keeping that in mind made a few things look different. Mostly, his relationship with the wizard he eventually took Death's wand from, and the events that lead to Dumbledore getting the wand from him. It made me realize that there could be a LOT more to that story that has yet to be told.
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Let's just say having Rowling arbitrarily decide which "team" Dumbledore played for was weird enough, but it would have been even weirder if she had waited like 30 or 40 years before she released that info.
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Eh, I didn't really consider that point too much one way or the other. It'll probably make the headlines for a few days (especially if it's a main character like Wonder Woman) but ultimately people will either accept it or not and move on.|
Originally Posted by Paladiamors
Yup, we're in agreement. I think the only thing we're kind of in disagreement on is the amount of attention they expect to get from it.
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But it does seem rather "coincidental" that DC made this announcement just a week after Obama's historic declaration on same-sex unions. *shrugs*
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So according to this Dan Dido states that a prominent DC character will be coming out of the closet.
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