A little late... but Tyrant was RIGHT!
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I'm pretty sure the devs confirmed Primal Earth shot first.
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Cole finds out there's another universe. It's full of superpowered individuals and monsters. If Cole were to draw too much attention to his universe, they could cross over in force.
What should Cole do now? A: The existence of parallel universes is now a state secret, a formal request to stay away will be given should they contact us. B: Contact them peacefully in secret and possibly recruit help with the not-quite-dead Hamidon issue. C: Destroy them! Full scale invasion before they notice us! If you chose A or B, congratulations! You're smarter than a supervillain dictator! If you chose C... why would you DO that?! |
Primal Earth, particulary Primal USA, the country that actually does all the portal stuff, isn't going to sit by and leave Preatoria alone.
Portal Corps, is the Reed Richards of CoX, it's responsible for far more trouble than it has ever solved, what with ticking off all sorts of dimensions by sneaking people into other worlds and spying on them.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
Tyrant was always going to attack Primal Earth as part of his plan to unite the multiverse under his rule to fight the Battalion.
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And instead, the greed of those on Primal Earth has doomed the multiverse.
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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And instead, the greed of those on Primal Earth has doomed the multiverse.
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That was something I've been wondering lately.
Soooo much effort was put into wiping out the primals. You kind of wonder how successful they could have been turning all the weapons of mass destruction against the Devouring Earth. I mean, they have an orbital death laser, that couldn't have been effective? All that incarnate power, able to nuke his own city... -none- of that could stop the Hamidon?
I'm just hoping that the big reveal is that the Praetorian Hamidon is scary as hell and not just another speed bump for us to show just how pathetic Cole was in that if he and his Praetors had decided to put all their power and knowledge into taking out Hamidon they could've done it.
I mean that's really the core of the problem. Cole believed wiping out all of Primal's superheroes in a blitz was the preferred option over trying to take down Hamidon.
C: Destroy them! Full scale invasion before they notice us! If you chose A or B, congratulations! You're smarter than a supervillain dictator! If you chose C... why would you DO that?! |
So a deal was made, since most of the human population in Praetoria was pretty much wrecked and reduced by Hamidon's war on Praetoria. Cole would round up the survivors and keep in them in line and docile. Doing whatever it takes to make sure the surviving human race does nothing to further provoke or gain the attention of Hamidon. In return Hamidon would lay low and make it look like Cole defeated it, and making it easier for him to take a position of power. However Hamidon made it clear that if anything aroused it's suspicion it would come back and wipe out what was left of the human race.
So the Primal Earth discovers Praetorian Earth and Cole Freaks out. Why, because he probably thought of a few conclusions that Hamidon might have jumped to. Hamidon might suspect Praetorian Cole going to Primal Cole and asking aid of finally defeating Praetoria's Hamidon, or Primal Earth saw Praetoria Earth as a place to exploit. Taking what natural resources were left, or using Praetoria Earth as a toxic dump for Primal Earth. Any of these options would have set off Hamidon and restarted the war.
Emperor Cole went with option C thinking it would appease Hamidon. An act letting Hamidon know that he would never seek help with the Primals or allow them to exploit Praetoria Earth. So Emperor Cole is doing what he thinks is best for the survival of what remains of the human race in Praetoria.
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I'm just hoping that the big reveal is that the Praetorian Hamidon is scary as hell and not just another speed bump for us to show just how pathetic Cole was in that if he and his Praetors had decided to put all their power and knowledge into taking out Hamidon they could've done it.
I mean that's really the core of the problem. Cole believed wiping out all of Primal's superheroes in a blitz was the preferred option over trying to take down Hamidon. |
Praet Hami is supposed to be some sort of eldritch horror looking thing. The better question is why he insists on still fighting you guys when Hami is gearing up to wipe out whats left of humanity, and the most he can do is stalemate the thing
Praet Hami is supposed to be some sort of eldritch horror looking thing. The better question is why he insists on still fighting you guys when Hami is gearing up to wipe out whats left of humanity, and the most he can do is stalemate the thing
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Praet Hami is supposed to be some sort of eldritch horror looking thing. The better question is why he insists on still fighting you guys when Hami is gearing up to wipe out whats left of humanity, and the most he can do is stalemate the thing
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So from a game mechanics standpoint. He fought the Hamidon when he was 50. After the fight and cutting the deal, he was 50+5.
Then again, one other thought occurs, maybe the only thing keeping him empowered was keeping the deal, so maybe he -couldn't- be the one to use the power to kill Hamidon or he'd break his deal.
Then again (again), we've been told the Well respects nothing but power so, you'd thinking gaining more power and then smashing your biggest foe to pieces would garner -more- power in their eyes.
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Okay, how did Primal Earth shoot first?
By making contact with the resistance first? Opening the portal to Praetorian earth? Sending in probes as they discovered things? Getting kidnapped by praetorians and needed to send heroes through to recover them?
Discovering that there had been established various cells of Praetorians on Primal earth and sent them packing back to where they came from?
I tried looking it up, but I could not find anything (so either my search fu is weak at this moment) or a "revised history" from Devs have not gotten out to the public.
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Okay, how did Primal Earth shoot first?
By making contact with the resistance first? Opening the portal to Praetorian earth? Sending in probes as they discovered things? Getting kidnapped by praetorians and needed to send heroes through to recover them? Discovering that there had been established various cells of Praetorians on Primal earth and sent them packing back to where they came from? I tried looking it up, but I could not find anything (so either my search fu is weak at this moment) or a "revised history" from Devs have not gotten out to the public. |
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Again a little group amongst Primal Earth doing stuff. I did think upon them and Maelstroms defection, but still is there a timeline for when things happened. After all Portal Corp started their exploration before Ultimatum stole the teck, did they not?
Or were Ultimatum the first one that got the coordinates to the Praetorian Earth dimension? And thus the attention of Tyrant?
If it was Ultimatum, that started the conflict, then I hope the heroes of Primal Earth will find out about them and... pay them a visit. And that there will be peace between the Praetorian population and Primal. (After all it was not an attack by a united government, UN or anyone)
Just as there should be one between Rikti dimension and Primal.
Specially since we did find out who and how the first Rikti war came to be. (I'll not say the name, so as not to spoil it for those that has not done the arc.)
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At this point I don't think you really need to worry about needing peace between Primal and Praetoria. Don't wanna spoil anything but I23 seems to make the notion of 'relations with Praetoria' pretty moot.
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With some of the portals though it should open up for some of the praetorians to get to Primal (Like Ghost Falcon). And they would bring with themselves stuff/tech.
Maybe Primal can be made a little better and stronger with having Wardroids on our own side against that coming storm.
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Yeah, pretty much. I think we're just going to absorb what's left of Praetoria.
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