A little late... but Tyrant was RIGHT!
Wasn't that by player demand?
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Which is why Supers were targeted, and only Supers.
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Totally, its just annoying that everything to with the Primal/Praetoria war tries to make out that Primal Earth is the best dimensional version going.
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@Golden Girl
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And anyone who fought back against Tyrant's stormtroopers - plus the loyalist invasion plan outlined how they were going to mind scan the entire surviving population of Primal Earth to discover any potential "troublemakers" who could be "dealt with".
So their range of targets when invading covered anyone who stood against them, and anyone who might think about resisting them in the future - and with 7 billion people involved, that was going to create a pretty high body count.
And as the loyalists planned to conquer the multiverse, thay'd rack up a pretty impressive kill score in each dimension they enslaved.
The Praetorian war isn't just about saving Primal Earth and Praetoria form the loyalists - it's about saving all of existence from them.
So their range of targets when invading covered anyone who stood against them, and anyone who might think about resisting them in the future - and with 7 billion people involved, that was going to create a pretty high body count.
And as the loyalists planned to conquer the multiverse, thay'd rack up a pretty impressive kill score in each dimension they enslaved.
The Praetorian war isn't just about saving Primal Earth and Praetoria form the loyalists - it's about saving all of existence from them.
@Golden Girl
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Don't forget that Praetoria was planned form the start to be the first enemy in the Incarnate storyline, so it had to be an evil place to provide a suitable enemy for Heores, as co-op content has a heroic theme.
I think that they should have put some Praetors who arent pure evil into that world, just to try and create a sense of true balance within the world.
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The war is also set up to follow the patern of the most popular original "endgame" content - the Maria Jenkin's arc - so we hunt the loyalist AVs down in their various lairs, until we finally confront Tyrant - only this time, instead of setting free just one hero, we're setting free an entire world.
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One thing that does confuse me about Praetoria is that Cole is the leader but you barely hear anything about him. Each attack is of course approved by him, but it seems [to me at least] that it is the Praetors who are all trying to gain his attention/approval that are calling the shots really. It almost feels like Cole is reluctant to engage in any sort of fight. |
@Golden Girl
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If you ran the UG trial you would know that this is false.In the end, sure. Ultimatum no doubt screwed the pooch. Did Marcus Cole HAVE to come to the decision to go on the offensive? No. |
The War Walkers were built to not fight at full potential when there was any civilian presence around.
Tyrant EXECUTES the commander of one of his forces who ignores this and deliberately attacks skyway(?) with hamidon spores, and he abandons Valkyrie for causing damage to the city as well, AND he sends Duncan to try and put a stop to Mot.
And he is somehow a generic, card carrying villain?
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If you ran the UG trial you would know that this is false.
The War Walkers were built to not fight at full potential when there was any civilian presence around. Tyrant EXECUTES the commander of one of his forces who ignores this and deliberately attacks skyway(?) with hamidon spores, and he abandons Valkyrie for causing damage to the city as well, AND he sends Duncan to try and put a stop to Mot. And he is somehow a generic, card carrying villain? |
@bpphantom
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Do not obfuscate the truth with cries for "proof" in a thinly veiled attempt to circumvent evidence obtained from Primitive Earth's own agents, send to destroy the last vestiges of humanity in the multiverse.
The Bold Defenders of True Earth do not answer to so-called primals. We have a much higher calling than Primitive Earth's petty warmongering.
(Also, it's right there. In the quoted text.)
The Bold Defenders of True Earth do not answer to so-called primals. We have a much higher calling than Primitive Earth's petty warmongering.
(Also, it's right there. In the quoted text.)
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"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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Glad to see Reppu is once again flinging personal attacks wrapped in "I am the RP god and you will listen to me or you're a n00b" statements.
Again, I understand. You two just want to villainize Primal Earth. I also acknowledge you're using poor logic and hyperbole, but I get why you want to do it. It's 'cool' to get against the crowd.
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That said, thread milestone achieved! The term Hyperbole has been used!
Coming up next: ad hominem!
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But he's fine with nuking Nova Praetoria - for the greater good, of course
Tyrant EXECUTES the commander of one of his forces who ignores this and deliberately attacks skyway(?) with hamidon spores, and he abandons Valkyrie for causing damage to the city as well
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@Golden Girl
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We never said he was sane, we said he had some scraps of common sense left.
But he's fine with nuking Nova Praetoria - for the greater good, of course
![]() When he's planning a war that will slaughter trillions of people as part of his plan to take over all of existence, he probably doesn't want another entity going power because of it. He plans to conquer the multiverse - that puts him in the big league of naughty types. |
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Do not obfuscate the truth with cries for "proof" in a thinly veiled attempt to circumvent evidence obtained from Primitive Earth's own agents, send to destroy the last vestiges of humanity in the multiverse.
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@Golden Girl
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By the time of the Magisterium Trial, he's got about as many scraps of common sense left as he's got friends and allies
We never said he was sane, we said he had some scraps of common sense left.
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@Golden Girl
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Right. But at the time he punched his commander into oblivion he still had quite a bit.
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(Techically, he order Anti-Matter to let Arachnos' plan to blow up Neuropolis continue unopposed. But we don't talk about that.)
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Not really - planning to conquer the multiverse shows that he'd gone totally crazy before the war even started
Right. But at the time he punched his commander into oblivion he still had quite a bit.
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@Golden Girl
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With a lot of Praetorian toons of my own, I think the only objection most of them would have in all this discussion is calling it "Primal Earth." To Praetorians theirs is the primal Earth. They'd call Primal Earth, Paragon Earth or [something] Earth instead.
"Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking of them."
Actually, it's been suggested that Primal Erath is called that because of how it's like a dimensional hub, with links to more dimensions than other Earths have, which is why it's such an important target for multiverse conquerors.
@Golden Girl
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Wouldn't be the first time someone had assumed they were the centre of the universe.
Actually, it's been suggested that Primal Erath is called that because of how it's like a dimensional hub, with links to more dimensions than other Earths have, which is why it's such an important target for multiverse conquerors.
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Because Cole totally didn't invade us multiple times and threaten to wipe us out. OOPS.
Also *Spoilers*
Nuking the center of his own metropolis is totally the answer to all his problems.
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Right. He didn't.
Because Cole totally didn't invade us multiple times and threaten to wipe us out. OOPS.
Also *Spoilers* Nuking the center of his own metropolis is totally the answer to all his problems. |
When the strongest force of your enemy is clustered in one place and all previous attacks have failed to produce noticeable effect... yes. Go big. he knew from past experience that he'd be fine. Hopefully we wouldn't be and then he could go about rebuilding.
@bpphantom
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Power Corrupts is one of the intrinsic lessons of Praetoria.
@bpphantom
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