Player's Summit

That's also something I'd like to see on Tankers.

Good thing I wasn't there. If I was and I saw you scratching out your name and I'd have known you were going to suggest Magnetism as a control set, I'd have kicked you in the kneecap...twice.

Magnetism is a *GREAT* set idea and I'm sure many would love to play it...If the devs aren't going back to add alternate animation themes for old sets so you could swap Earth Control theme for a Metal Control theme (it only half-a-quarter works with the color customized) then the devs should be considering the set seriously.

The visuals could spawn from the ground and basically be pipes and I-beams that sprout up and wrap around foes' bodies/legs. A key/unique power could be a sleep/confuse toggle aura conceptualized as minutely controlling the metal on or in biological creatures and a strong high-mag confuse on robots because you can control the metal they're made of. The pet could either be a hulking golem of metal held together by your energies or simply a floating titan weapon that just goes around smacking stuff...would be awesome if it was like an amorphous liquid metal ball that morphs into stuff (big gun, big arm, big hammer) for every attack but that's probably too hard.

But yeah, Magnetism or Metal Control would have gotten my support.

A perma-rain effect could be a possible compromise - it's make the place very dark in the daytime, and then extra dark at night.
I think the use of a lot of neon signs would also look good, as well as highlighting the darkness - like the glow tech used in Neutropolis, only on normal signs.

Ya... just what we need, yet another zone you can't see anything in. If they do perma-night they need to do it right and turn the darkness up to 11, your whole screen goes completely black, ui and mouse cursor included, not just 'shaded' dark but set to black so no amount of gamma will help.

bow before my nerdy overmastery!

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Watching the reactions of the panel and hearing their responses was pretty interesting too.

I personally really enjoyed the pitches by the top 5 presenters. I thought the Boomtown concept was especially compelling. Unfortunately, I also got the feeling from the panel that the concept might be a bit "too much" to implement at this time, with everything else they're currently engaged on.

Now, that being said, I woudln't be at all surprised to see a Stirga revamp in the not-horribly-distant future. The sheer enthusiasm of the panel for exploding volcanoes, giant robots, flaming robots falling out of the sky following exploding volcanos, massive war between Council and 5th column, etc., etc. was very apparent. They really picked up that ball and ran with it for a while, and some of their comments were "What's not to like!"

In chatting with some of the Devs during the supper following the panels, I got the impression that the whole team is already at "all ahead flank" with existing projects, including lots of overtime and weekend work. So anything introduced as special projects (zones, powers, costumes) during this summit HAD to include the caveat of "can we shoe-horn this in with everything else that's going on?". Hence, some of the restrictions you saw on the notes above "no major changes in zone struction, no shirinking, growing, geometry changes in powers, no whips, etc).

Also, like the Stirga presentation, I got the feeling that both the "throwing stuff" power set, and "magnetic" power set were high favoriites among the panel. They just didn't happen to get the loudest response from the room and Ustreem.

While I'm sure the need to "go for low hanging fruit" influenced the decisions of what powers/zones/costumes they selected from all those submitted, when it came to offering them for a vote, they DID state multiple times that EVERY suggestion was being logged and retained.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we were to see future additions to the game from those inputs, either influenced by or directly adopted from, even if they weren't among those voted and discussed during the limited time offered at the Pummit.

The ideas spawned from the discussions, the attitudes and thoughts in general about the game, our heroes and villians, our concepts, our play styles, our feelings about so many different aspects outside of those focused on in the panels - I'm sure these are going to be a significant impact on the Dev's thoughts when they weigh decisions in the future. Can't really see that as a bad thing.

Did you enjoy the Eternal Prison map?

I agree! King's Row is a great place for Noir. The whole reason I suggested a revamp of KR was that it seemed a logical 'next place on the map'. Also, I was frustrated by the way that the whole Habashy and Save AP arc (unless played on +0x0) simply catapulted you past KR. Also, there's all of those Contacts there, but now nobody introduces you to them.

That, and I've been utterly curb-stomped by Paladin a few times too many. THREE Paladins is simply overkill. So, give people a reason to Hunt Paladin!

Also, as has been pointed out, there is this Huge story about Blue Steel and the Clockwork King... and we have to work pretty hard, to find out about it.
A TF or mission arc concerning that, would be super!

I mentioned that this was the first zone (in the old progression) where we encountered the Lost. Some hints about them would be very interesting.

Ditto for the Circle of Thorns. I admit, I used to Hate Azuria for sending me after them, but now they have Fancy Suits! And nobody is looking at them, because the 'story' seems to jump straight to the level 10 content.

The story of Kings Row needs to be Clarified!

Be Well!
Fireheart

I agree with GG.



I...



*Faints in shock*

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You okay man?

Is there a Pain Dom in the house?!?

The new Atlas Park content actually sets up Kings Row even better than before - meetign Icedrone halfway through the Atlas storyline, then ending with Aaron Thiery is a perfect lead in to a zone that explores the vigilante style of crimefighting, with Blue Steel and the history of the Clockwork as an ideal story focus - plus, it also gives a great chance to explore the PPD a bit more - like how do normal beat cops feel about working in the city of heroes? Do they feel like they're always being overshadowed by superpowered crimefighters? Do they ever feel inadequate and undervalued because of it? Do they ever resent it, and would any of them ever be openly hostile to or uncooperative with heroes?

I felt this way too.

Last year's "pummit" was somewhat fun to watch cause it was "all information" with a little q&a at the end.

This year was a lot more "q&a" but with that, Ustream didn't get much attention (which I know is hard to do)...so...yeah...definitely didn't watch a lot of it.

I only watched the design a power set panel....hooray radiation armor!


I'm just curious; Throwing Weapons....what's there to it? You throw x....so...what's there to design? Animation wise I feel it's like Dual Pistols...how do you make 9 different animations for shooting a gun (or in this case throwing random weapons)?

Then they made DP beautiful (in my opinion) animation wise but then the you'll have the people who don't like the "gun fu".

*shrugs*


Not that I don't mind new power sets; but that's why I was (nuts) for Rad. Armor

Yeah it's level range probably just needs to get pushed up a bit now so you don't level past it and people get referred to it rather than the hollows first. Perhaps kings row has been neglected in favour of atlas park by the pd and efforts in the rubble of galaxy city. Perhaps many police/rescue personel were lost in the meteor strikes and aftermath, leaving kings row a place undermanned, where people have felt forced to take on vigilante measures. CoT free to take captives, skulls running a protection racket with the local business and using them to import their magic for their death rituals or worse. Perhaps some sort of death demon being summoned. MoT sounds like a likely god of worship for the skulls does he not? Clockwork king flaunting his power in blue steels face, be nice to have more about the rivalry between he and Blue Steel and how it started and CK's reaction to Penny joing the Phalanx. And yes noir costume options would tie in as well.

Mea culpa... I was called upon to pitch my Polynesian/Aztec/Zulu idea, but was unprepared.... mostly because it was a really last minute thought, and I hadn't fleshed out specifics. Dark Respite also pitched for a mesoamerican/Aztec/Myan set, and even though her presentation was better than mine, it still didn't catch on.

No hurt feelings here, the Post Apocolyptic/Road Warrior theme fits in with the new Radiation Armor theme. Also, as has been pointed out, the Post-Apoc pieces will lend themselves to more flexibility in mixing with other stuff.

I do hope the Aztec/Tribal theme is re-visited in the future. Maybe someone else can pick up that mantle next time.

Don�t say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary. - R.W. Emerson

If it makes you feel better I liked under the sea, and tribal the best. There were a lot of interesting ideas for Post Apoc thrown around. The hockey mask, a few back details, and a turban head wrap tuskan raiders thing were the most exciting to me. I will be honest and admit I zoned out a bit.


The powers Pannel was the best part of the whole day to me. I wish there had been a few more reveals, and I had two questions that I really wanted asked and answered that never were. That was the most frustrating part of not being there. I want a solid red name answer on the CoT parts we didn't get, and the Black Knight armor.

The long skirt I can understand the concerns with that. But the armored gloves, cool belt, and the big hat? I even wanted to suggest that I would buy a second CoT pack to get those items. :/ But I was not there, maybe next year/time.

The unpopularity of the task force aside, I can't say that I agree with them about the Clockwork story. The original, low-level story is wrapped up at that point, I suppose, but there's obviously more to it. We see the Clockwork King again much later, in the Lady Grey TF. He's on the loose, and he's manifesting his psychic powers more openly, like the CWK we encounter in another dimension. Clearly, things have happened since we beat him up at the end of the TF. The question is, what? And what might come of it?

He's still bonkers, but maybe a little more aware of his state, as evinced by channeling his psychic powers through his minions. He's still protective of Penny (if in a creepy stalkerish way); he cares about her despite her ongoing friendship with active heroes, and the fact that she is presumably approaching the point at which she becomes a hero herself. There's material there to work with.

I would have pitched revamping Boomtown to a 30-40 zone, and the story would have been "The Conscience of the King". (Yes, that's a Star Trek reference, but it's also a nod to the early arc.) It would open with the Clockwork established in a Clockwork Palace in a corner of Boomtown and be focused on the period when Penny becomes a hero, and the reevaluation that forces on the King. He would not be completely redeemed, but his general hatred of heroes would be resolved into specific bitterness aimed at Blue Steel, and he would at least begin to engage with the world again. His Palace would become a refuge of sorts for the city's mechanical castoffs--damaged mek-men and Praet clockwork, and the like--and maybe even a few organic outcasts. The zone repeatable contact would be the Clockwork Emissary, who offers a choice of missions with vigilante and rogue bents, aimed at protecting the King's domain, both from villains and from the reconstruction efforts going on in other parts of the zone.

It would tie up some loose ends, breathe some life (or a horrid mechanical facsimile thereof) into Boomtown, and give us a chance to see Penny as a heroine between rescuing her and "Yay, I'm in the Freedom Phalanx!"

That'd also be a problem, as the modern Penny is already active in IP, and handing out a 20-25 TF.

You do realize that you could have suggested ballet costumes and still would have come out ahead, right? I'm positive that who was presenting the ideas actually factored into the audience approval of the suggestions.

And has been done to death. No, wait... It was done to death, buried, left to rot for the last 5 years, then forcibly dug out of the earth and assembled with spit and paper.

I'm actually shocked and dismayed that Fabulous had put forth such a tired and cliched trope. Especially since it is almost always portrayed with drab and muted earth/dirt tones.

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If there is one genre that I despise, it has to be "post apocalyptic". It is almost uniformly depressing. The whole artistic movement has people with no imagination other than to see how much blood can be splattered or how much the human race has been "wrong" about whatever the artist has a beef over.

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Maybe it was revived with radiation?

It's not my fault the devs broke the timeline there. I have been trying to overlook it ever since they decided to copy/paste her into that role. It's already a problem, since you can do that TF, then go rescue child-Penny ten levels later.

The business about all the Phalanx TF contacts being their L50 selves makes sense for the rest of them, because they don't appear as anything else anywhere in the in-game timeline. They're L50 from the time we're L1 to the time we're maxed-out incarnates. It breaks for Penny because we meet her as a child, and presumably see her grow up into a hero. With her giving out the TF, we go from her half-asking to be our sidekick to her being twice our level and assigning us a task in the space of about ten levels.

It's already a problem, given that child Penny is part of the Faultline arcs (in the final mission of the zone, even), who's upper end occupies the exact same level range as the Penny TF.



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I find the eternally-blue skies over Paragon creepy in the extreme.