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[SPOILERS] Issue 23-New iTrial!

Acemace

By Acemace,
Posted on: 2012-04-04 16:04 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
It wasn't out fault that the loyalist leader threw a nuclear scale tantrum because those nasty Incarnates were bring evil freedom to his people
If you'd bother to play either of the Loyalist lines it's pretty obvious that 1) Tyrant isn't a "Loyalist" and 2) Loyalists aren't all that loyal to Tyrant.

 

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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
They just removed an entire RP concept from the players, want to RP as a Preatorian post I23? Too bad everyone's dead.
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Originally Posted by Chyron HR View Post
Just not the story of the game, apparently.
They pay a lot of attention to the story - especially in Praetoria

The Tyrant Trial is very symbolic - his rise to power and the aggression of the Hamidon were both fueld by nuclear conflict, and now this whole terrible chapter in the history of Praetorian Earth closes by coming full circle, and perfectly reveals Tyrant's mindset - he's always in the right, and if he has to kill or harm people, it's always because they brought it on themselves by opposing him - if he can't control, then he destroys - it's as simple as that with him.

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What happens to the world is out of our control. We can only make a difference in small doses. We knew the spit was going to hit the fan and the Developers were never going to destroy Primal Earth since it's the basis for the game.

Praetoria is an alternate starting point. We never actually meet Cole there anyway, we just get to learn about the place and there were so many different forces pulling to and fro that it was inevitable something would break. Dictatorships can only last so long before pushback occurs.

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What level is Cole and what level are the mobs?

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Originally Posted by Ogi View Post
If you'd bother to play either of the Loyalist lines it's pretty obvious that 1) Tyrant isn't a "Loyalist" and 2) Loyalists aren't all that loyal to Tyrant.
Anyone loyal to Praetoria joins the Resistance

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Originally Posted by Chyron HR View Post
Just not the story of the game, apparently.
Which stops the entirety of Praetoria being useable as a background for a character after the release of the trial, also insta-death of anyone who was in Praetoria. Unless it's not accepted IC, under which case, that is a piece of official ingame canon -which is useless-.

I hear rumour that completion of the trial leads to your character being unable to enter the actual zone after, is this true? If so, then completely no reason for a roleplayer to do the trial for character advancement so as to not neuter the character's potential roleplay or exemplaring for Praetorian content.

Sure, I may be overreacting, but I believe this extreme of story progression forced upon characters is not needed. If an ending for Praetoria's destruction was needed, they could have continued with solo-story missions for your character's own story (much like the last choice in the DA arcs), meanwhile have the final trial fight end on a more neutral note than SO YEAH THIS ALL EXPLODED, OOH LOOK SHINY MAP, THAT WAS COOL WASN'T IT MICHAEL BAY?

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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
They just removed an entire RP concept from the players, want to RP as a Preatorian post I23? Too bad everyone's dead.

So it's that binary to you?

Why can't your toon be a Praetorian that escaped before he nuked Nova Praetoria?


Or how do you (we) know that people in Neutropolis or Imperial City aren't still alive and are able to escape?


Sheesh; I don't usually care about story but bam, made two ways for you to RP still

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The only way the devs can stop people from RP'ing a toon that just came from Praetoria post i23 is to disable Praetorian toons all together; which I'm guessing isn't going to happen.

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It's the climax to the Praetorian War, not the Ending to the Praetorian Storyline. We don't know the aftermath of the trial, there may yet be survivors, we know First Ward at least should still be 'active' with the remnants of the Resistance, the Loyalists and all the other ragtag outcasts. And the Praetorian Hamidon is still lurking out there somewhere and he's a smidge more dangerous than our Hamidon.

 

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Originally Posted by CBeet View Post
Which stops the entirety of Praetoria being useable as a background for a character after the release of the trial, also insta-death of anyone who was in Praetoria. Unless it's not accepted IC, under which case, that is a piece of official ingame canon -which is useless-.

I hear rumour that completion of the trial leads to your character being unable to enter the actual zone after, is this true? If so, then completely no reason for a roleplayer to do the trial for character advancement so as to not neuter the character's potential roleplay or exemplaring for Praetorian content.

Sure, I may be overreacting, but I believe this extreme of story progression forced upon characters is not needed. If an ending for Praetoria's destruction was needed, they could have continued with solo-story missions for your character's own story (much like the last choice in the DA arcs), meanwhile have the final trial fight end on a more neutral note than SO YEAH THIS ALL EXPLODED, OOH LOOK SHINY MAP, THAT WAS COOL WASN'T IT MICHAEL BAY?
We don't know how MUCH of Praetoria got over-nuked by Tyrant.

Please wait until they tell us or its released to figure out if it was Nova or more then Nova Praetoria.

 

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Originally Posted by CBeet View Post
have the final trial fight end on a more neutral note
This is good vs evil, not shades of gray

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Yeah, completely unfounded supposition - which is all ANY of us have - serves zero purpose. Well, unless you get off on rage or making a very poor case for roleplayers.

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What I have REALLY learned today. Letting the press play before the players is not a good idea after all.

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... and that was when I first used the 'ignore user' link.
There is a link for that now? I had to go to my user CP.

 

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Originally Posted by Zyphoid View Post
What I have REALLY learned today. Letting the press play before the players is not a good idea after all.
Why? We got a neat preview of some awesome new content, and some new people got to try out the game

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... and that was when I first used the 'ignore user' link.
The truth is you should not need it. There players perma banned in the past for less. I think the post stepped WAY past the rules of the board.

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Originally Posted by ShadowWings View Post
We don't know how MUCH of Praetoria got over-nuked by Tyrant.

Please wait until they tell us or its released to figure out if it was Nova or more then Nova Praetoria.
Following the story, if we understand it right, Cole destroyed the entirety of the Praetoria as a planet, killed every single living being in it in order to gain its power and become a well unto himself. There is nothing else left, no survivors, no continuation. Everyone's dead, Dave. And then he dies, Praetoria becomes a dead world full of ruins to perhaps only salvage from, nothing more.

 

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Originally Posted by Night_Watcher View Post
Following the story, if we understand it right, Cole destroyed the entirety of the Praetoria as a planet, killed every single living being in it in order to gain its power and become a well unto himself. There is nothing else left, no survivors, no continuation. Everyone's dead, Dave. And then he dies, Praetoria becomes a dead world full of ruins to perhaps only salvage from, nothing more.
We'll see when we can access it as VIPs. Because I couldn't pull out the cutscene dialogue.

 

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Originally Posted by Ouul View Post
I'm curious, just as an academic standpoint, how would you have ended it?
With that kind of nerdrage, he might already have.

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Why? We got a neat preview of some awesome new content, and some new people got to try out the game
Damage control GG. I would rather all this rage be on the CB boards rather than in an open forum. :/ I mean it was cool and all, but still.

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Originally Posted by Night_Watcher View Post
Following the story, if we understand it right, Cole destroyed the entirety of the Praetoria as a planet, killed every single living being in it in order to gain its power and become a well unto himself. There is nothing else left, no survivors, no continuation. Everyone's dead, Dave. And then he dies, Praetoria becomes a dead world full of ruins to perhaps only salvage from, nothing more.

So that 1 nuke killed the Praet. Hamidon? If so, why didn't he do that before (after the fences were up)?

Why can't you RP that your toon was in the bubble that Dominatrix/AB put up before the nuke?

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Originally Posted by Zyphoid View Post
Damage control GG. I would rather all this rage be on the CB boards rather than in an open forum. :/ I mean it was cool and all, but still.
"All" this rage? The tidal wave of outrage so far stands at 2 players

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Originally Posted by Zyphoid View Post
Damage control GG. I would rather all this rage be on the CB boards rather than in an open forum. :/ I mean it was cool and all, but still.
[sarcasm.] I suppose it was a bit much to expect people to just tell themselves "It's just a game, I really should relax." (lalala.) [/sarcasm.]

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Originally Posted by Bosstone View Post
Weren't you going to leave the game over the Super Packs?
He RPed his way around those.

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