Paragon Market Releases (WHY U NO STAFF?)
I have no issues with those facts.
I have been saying since I22 to please fix the pet AI about once a day as have others, but they(red letters) have decided to be silent about it instead.
It feels like deja vu all over again.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
What a lively morning!
We're extremely happy and flattered that so many of you are so excited for Staff Fighting. While I know many of you are upset that it's not released now, we also have to be responsible with the cadence of releases on the Paragon Market. What do I mean by that?
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- Balderdash..game will be around forever. I have eternity to play sets so gimme.
Quote:- If we release too many Powersets too quickly, it could be seen as a grab at your Paragon Points, and subsequently, your money. While we certainly appreciate you buying Paragon Points, we also have to be responsible with how we encourage you to spend with us.
Quote:- We have to balance perception. There has been a perception we've been focusing on melee Powersets recently. Real or not, these sentiments need to be taken into account.
Fiddlesticks!
Old man rant over...
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Just saying: there would not be a controversy here if not for the following facts:
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There were complaints about the set's sound effects, which were addressed.
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But compared to breaking MMs in general and being a complete joke, performance wise, some minor issues graphically with a handful of staffs (and I could always turn off sound outside of glowie hunts) presents a no-brainer of which set to release - unless you work for paragon.
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wait a minute, staff is a melee powerset?
what were you guys thinking? |
In the movie "The Three Musketeers" (the 1973 version), Porthos announces he's invented a new sword fighting technique. It consists of pulling your sword from your scabbard and releasing it so that it flies away and stabs your opponent. Aramis asks him to try this out on him, but this time Aramis easily knocks the blade away and then threatens the now-disarmed musketeer.
ARAMIS: "Only Porthos could invent a new way of disarming himself."
@ Purgatorio
Well I could see that if Titan Weapons and Staff Melee were released at the same time.
But Beast Mastery and Staff Melee are two entirely different playstyles. |
Yeah. Because there aren't any players that enjoy both melee sets and the MM playstyle.
Pretty much my thoughts as well.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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I don't know that the web site needs to be redesigned to add in a "new this month" section. If she has the time, a short note like the one War Witch posted last month outlining what was coming in March would be perfect. It could then be posted on the forums and website both as news items.
I honestly never expected staff in March because it wasn't on the list in that post.
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Balderdash..game will be around forever. I have eternity to play sets so gimme.
Poppycock! What kinda hooch dealers are you people? Put away the shot glass and gimme the bottle. My money not good around here?! Oh fer Pete's sake. Schedule a trip to doctor Phil so you can all work on your feelings about how people "perceive" you. All these people worried about feelings and "oh, people might not like us". Bleh...whole country is going into the crapper I tell ya and I need a shiny trident to keep the scavengers away.[/LIST] Fiddlesticks! Old man rant over... |
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Just saying: there would not be a controversy here if not for the following facts:
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Yup, this pretty much covers it.
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The Developers are falling prey to the "new shiny tech" affliction. First it was Ouoboros and Cimerora which fell by the wayside, then it was Praetoria and First Ward (where is the level 30 content for Praetoria?) now it's the four-legged rig.
How many canines/felines do we need?
Seriously, put those resources to high quality costume bundles like Carnival of Light or even the Sci-Fi pack or to new powersets.
Staff fighting could have been released before Issue 22 but I do understand they wanted Dark Control and Dark Assault and Beast Mastery in that timeframe. But it's now mid-April and we still don't know when it is going live. There really should be a schedule under Announcements so we know what to expect and when to expect it...it would alleviate so much forum angst if there were one.
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Didn't they get burned by that sort of thing at least once already?
(Or even release order... remember the SSOCS that... er... never showed up that was supposed to take some sting from ED? Instead, we waited for Inventions.) |
They released the date for ... Issue 19? ... release at the 2010 Bay Area M&G and had to push it back due to problems that cropped up. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth on the forums, even though they qualified it when it was announced with an "unless something unforeseen occurs" type statement.
And yeah, SSOCS. *cries a little*
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Personally, I'm also in the camp that has no use for vanity pets. I've never been one for the Pokemon approach to in game pets, but that's my personal preference. Perhaps I'm privileged in the fact that I can see that there is a significant portion of our Community who is excited by vanity pets and show us so. It may not be good for me, but it's good for other people who really enjoy this type of content.
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Totally thought the pets were your idea all this time.
Oh god I'm sorry.
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Well there was the whole thing Z mentioned about not wanting to release another melee powerset first. I mean, the purchased powersets have been, what?
1. Beam Rifle (Freedom launch?) 2. Street Justice 3. Titan Weapons 4. ??? So if Staff had been #4 instead of Beast Mastery, then we would have gotten an entirely different kind of whining (Y U MELLE ONLY?!) Would it have been as bad as this? Who knows. |
- beam rifle
- time manipulation
- darkness assault
- street justice
- dark control / darkness affinity
- titan weapons
- beast mastery
That's nearly one powerset a month. (It IS one a month if you count Darkness Affinity -- which I don't.)
Some of you will protest that not all of these were retail. That is irrelevant. Free to VIP's or not, they still took resources, personnel and testing. Now ask yourself this: from a business point of view, which is more effective? Releasing TWO powersets the same day (one retail, one free) or spacing them out? Even something as popular as Street Fighting would have seen FEWER sales if it had come out the same day as, say, Time Manipulation. With TWO shinies competing for people's attention, some potential SJ buyers would play with Time instead and might not get around to buying the retail set before another one was released.
I am NOT trying to justify releasing a bugged powerset before it's ready. I'm just saying that we've gotten MORE stuff more QUICKLY than we have in the past and all the "I want it nao" posts don't change that.
@ Purgatorio
The Developers are falling prey to the "new shiny tech" affliction. First it was Ouoboros and Cimerora which fell by the wayside, then it was Praetoria and First Ward (where is the level 30 content for Praetoria?) now it's the four-legged rig.
How many canines/felines do we need? |
Seriously, put those resources to high quality costume bundles like Carnival of Light or even the Sci-Fi pack or to new powersets. |
We're not losing anything.
Staff fighting could have been released before Issue 22 but I do understand they wanted Dark Control and Dark Assault and Beast Mastery in that timeframe. But it's now mid-April and we still don't know when it is going live. |
There really should be a schedule under Announcements so we know what to expect and when to expect it...it would alleviate so much forum angst if there were one. |
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Some of you will protest that not all of these were retail. That is irrelevant. Free to VIP's or not,
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Getting stuck in the trap of "seen through VIP eyes" doesn't help. After all, not everyone's VIP.
Staff fighting could have been released before Issue 22 but I do understand they wanted Dark Control and Dark Assault and Beast Mastery in that timeframe. But it's now mid-April and we still don't know when it is going live. There really should be a schedule under Announcements so we know what to expect and when to expect it...it would alleviate so much forum angst if there were one.
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@ Purgatorio
The Developers are falling prey to the "new shiny tech" affliction. First it was Ouoboros and Cimerora which fell by the wayside, then it was Praetoria and First Ward (where is the level 30 content for Praetoria?) now it's the four-legged rig.
How many canines/felines do we need? Seriously, put those resources to high quality costume bundles like Carnival of Light or even the Sci-Fi pack or to new powersets. Staff fighting could have been released before Issue 22 but I do understand they wanted Dark Control and Dark Assault and Beast Mastery in that timeframe. But it's now mid-April and we still don't know when it is going live. There really should be a schedule under Announcements so we know what to expect and when to expect it...it would alleviate so much forum angst if there were one. |
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I don't really think it's Bill that owes me. How could he not respond when fed a straight line like that.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
In the last 8 months, we've gotten the following powersets:
That's nearly one powerset a month. (It IS one a month if you count Darkness Affinity -- which I don't.) Some of you will protest that not all of these were retail. That is irrelevant. Free to VIP's or not, they still took resources, personnel and testing. Now ask yourself this: from a business point of view, which is more effective? Releasing TWO powersets the same day (one retail, one free) or spacing them out? Even something as popular as Street Fighting would have seen FEWER sales if it had come out the same day as, say, Time Manipulation. With TWO shinies competing for people's attention, some potential SJ buyers would play with Time instead and might not get around to buying the retail set before another one was released. I am NOT trying to justify releasing a bugged powerset before it's ready. I'm just saying that we've gotten MORE stuff more QUICKLY than we have in the past and all the "I want it nao" posts don't change that. |
But remember some of the people clamouring for Staff Fighting, likely didn't buy the following...
Darkness Control, Dark Assault, Dark Affinity or Temporal Manipulation. Why? Because they were free.
Then there's those who likely didn't go to those AND they skipped Beast Mastery because MM is not that popular of an AT.
Add in that, there does seem (and I could be wrong, it's just observation) to be quite a few players who prefere to keep to strictly melee ATs.
Also add in that Staff Fighting has been requested long before Beast Mastery, one of the reasons being that people wanted a weapon set that was more smashing hurt and less slicey, maim, kill the criminal feelings.
Now admittedly, when I say that last part, I believe people can assume they're not killing enemies with their lethal style weapons. But that's me. Others can be less forgiving. Personally in comic book worlds, the only ones who seems to stay hurt with those weapons are minions when the plot calls for it and civvies.
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Just saying: there would not be a controversy here if not for the following facts: