Paragon Market Releases (WHY U NO STAFF?)
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Posted on: 2012-04-03 10:40 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
How much time was there between the New darkness sets coming out, and Beast mastery being released? A month? Less? It was NOT a long time, that is for sure. Given that..how can they claim not to bring out Powersets on top of each other? Especially since dark was THREE sets (control, assault and affinity). Surely being 3 whole power sets, it 'should' be therefore..3 times as long till the next powerset...yet, we got BM in a month. Going by simply maths, that means ONE power set could come out every 14 days, and not count as overlapping..
I think whats annoying people the most, including me, is that Staff was on test before (I think?) BM, and seemed a lot more..finished, yet BM came out first.
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Let's just be honest Mister D, a lot of Z's post was forgivable company speak. The bold is so so true though.
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Originally Posted by MisterD
How much time was there between the New darkness sets coming out, and Beast mastery being released? A month? Less? It was NOT a long time, that is for sure. Given that..how can they claim not to bring out Powersets on top of each other? Especially since dark was THREE sets (control, assault and affinity). Surely being 3 whole power sets, it 'should' be therefore..3 times as long till the next powerset...yet, we got BM in a month. Going by simply maths, that means ONE power set could come out every 14 days, and not count as overlapping..
I think whats annoying people the most, including me, is that Staff was on test before (I think?) BM, and seemed a lot more..finished, yet BM came out first. |
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Nobody saw Napoleon Dynamite? Really?
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Apparantly Zwill thought it would be fun to pick the most stupidly unquote like quote from a movie, that frankly is crap. So a quoute that most won't see as a quoute, from a movie that no one saw.
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You do realize that even if they did not release a vanity pet, they wouldn't (necessarily) release staff instead? That Vanity pets do not take away from powersets?|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
I dont mind vanity pets, I wont buy them, but I dont begrudge their existence. But what I do begrudge is that they take up the weekly release slot.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Well I could see that if Titan Weapons and Staff Melee were released at the same time.
But Beast Mastery and Staff Melee are two entirely different playstyles. |
Different playstyles does not mean they cannot appeal to the same people.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
If that's the case then maybe they should of relased staff melee first, seeing as Beast mastery is a little bit broken and could of done with another months baking?
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Originally Posted by MisterD
How much time was there between the New darkness sets coming out, and Beast mastery being released? A month? Less? It was NOT a long time, that is for sure. Given that..how can they claim not to bring out Powersets on top of each other? Especially since dark was THREE sets (control, assault and affinity). Surely being 3 whole power sets, it 'should' be therefore..3 times as long till the next powerset...yet, we got BM in a month. Going by simply maths, that means ONE power set could come out every 14 days, and not count as overlapping..
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9/27 - Time Manipulation and Beam Rifle (i21)
10/4 - Street Fighting
12/6 - Titan Weapons
3/2 - Darkness Control/Assault/Affinity (i22)
3/20 - Beast Mastery
4/?? - Staff Fighting
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| I think whats annoying people the most, including me, is that Staff was on test before (I think?) BM, and seemed a lot more..finished, yet BM came out first. |
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Which still puts us in Early April versus "Mid-April"|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
There are only four tuesdays in April, we've had one of them, the next available release slot is the second Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by tanstaafl
I work with 100's of children everyday, and I wouldn't have Z's patience/tolerance.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Being a parent myself, I can wholeheartedly assure you that dealing with kids all day is a LOT easier than dealing with paying customers.
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It doesn't take 18+ years to kick a customer out :P
On the other hand, (even if it's not what you want them to) kids learn.
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All I recall about that is :|
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Nobody saw Napoleon Dynamite? Really?
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Tots
And the feel of something dragging on more than a James T. Kirk speech in original Star Trek.
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Staff fighting was an early April Fool's joke....there are no plans for it to go Live. 
Don't I know you???
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
All I recall about that is :
Vote for Pedro Tots And the feel of something dragging on more than a James T. Kirk speech in original Star Trek. |
I happen to be one of the few people who actually liked the movie without being ironic. And even I didn't catch the hint about the liger. My movie mojo faled me
I watched about 15 minutes of Napoleon Dynamite before turning it off because I couldn't take any more. And I don't mean that in a good way. I love stupid movies. One of my all-time favorites is Airplane!. (The exclamation point is part of its title, like the game show Jeopardy!.) Count UHF up there, too. I even moderately liked movies like Clerks. But Napoleon Dynamite was so boring and unfunny I just couldn't stand it. I have a friend who thinks it's hilarious. He thinks I don't "get it." I do get it, it's just as funny to me as an old knock knock joke. (It's not.)
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And, if those dates are accurate, people should be happy if Staff Fighting comes out in April instead of May!|
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
they're following a trend of sorts
9/27 - Time Manipulation and Beam Rifle (i21) 10/4 - Street Fighting 12/6 - Titan Weapons 3/2 - Darkness Control/Assault/Affinity (i22) 3/20 - Beast Mastery 4/?? - Staff Fighting |
Not to say that I wasn't surprised when War Witch's letter was suggesting BM would be coming out first.
I hear the complaints over that, but... c'mon, this is old news.
Once it didn't come out right away... and once we saw the list in her letter... We're lucky if they release it so soon as this month.
@Zethustra
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and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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Originally Posted by TonyV
I watched about 15 minutes of Napoleon Dynamite before turning it off because I couldn't take any more. And I don't mean that in a good way. I love stupid movies. One of my all-time favorites is Airplane!. (The exclamation point is part of its title, like the game show Jeopardy!.) Count UHF up there, too. I even moderately liked movies like Clerks. But Napoleon Dynamite was so boring and unfunny I just couldn't stand it. I have a friend who thinks it's hilarious. He thinks I don't "get it." I do get it, it's just as funny to me as an old knock knock joke. (It's not.)
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(by the way, I share your perspective on the above movies)
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
That is an interesting perspective.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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I put Napoleon Dynamite in the "Stupid/ funny/ guilty pleasure" category of movies I like, next to Kung Pow: Enter the Fist and Freddy Got Fingered. I grew up watching trash cinema and B-movies, so I have a fondness for things like that.And Airplane! is a classic, definitely.
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Originally Posted by TonyV
I watched about 15 minutes of Napoleon Dynamite before turning it off because I couldn't take any more. And I don't mean that in a good way. I love stupid movies. One of my all-time favorites is Airplane!. (The exclamation point is part of its title, like the game show Jeopardy!.) Count UHF up there, too. I even moderately liked movies like Clerks. But Napoleon Dynamite was so boring and unfunny I just couldn't stand it. I have a friend who thinks it's hilarious. He thinks I don't "get it." I do get it, it's just as funny to me as an old knock knock joke. (It's not.)
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Originally Posted by TonyV
I watched about 15 minutes of Napoleon Dynamite before turning it off because I couldn't take any more. And I don't mean that in a good way. I love stupid movies. One of my all-time favorites is Airplane!. (The exclamation point is part of its title, like the game show Jeopardy!.) Count UHF up there, too. I even moderately liked movies like Clerks. But Napoleon Dynamite was so boring and unfunny I just couldn't stand it. I have a friend who thinks it's hilarious. He thinks I don't "get it." I do get it, it's just as funny to me as an old knock knock joke. (It's not.)
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I'm with you on ND 100%.
I think I watched about 5-10 minutes and was like, "wow....this is bad....I want my 5-10 minutes of my life back."
The problem is that the main char. ND, reminds me (and my best friend) of another friend of ours because he seems to stretch the truth (nice way of saying it) a lot....just like ND.
Ugh...
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This is something of a concerning matter that's crossed my mind: Why push out Beast Mastery when it was so unpolished and unready for release compared to staff fighting?
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Originally Posted by Reiska
Just saying: there would not be a controversy here if not for the following facts:
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The lesson seems to be yet another reminder of why the devs invented closed betas.
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Originally Posted by MisterD
I think whats annoying people the most, including me, is that Staff was on test before (I think?) BM, and seemed a lot more..finished, yet BM came out first.
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I was thinking that as well. And someone else alluded to it elsewhere...|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
The lesson seems to be yet another reminder of why the devs invented closed betas.
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@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
Closed betas have always, always run more smoothly than open betas, and closed beta testers have always, always demonstrated far less entitlement about anything that appeared in closed betas.
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Uh, when do you think the last closed beta happened?
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The majority of people that they usually invite into Closed Betas tend to understand that the things they see, test and play with, on Beta, may not come out on live for a long, long time.
Open Beta would have come with both sets already out and wouldn't be judged around ideas such as "we got Staff first and BM second... how dare they release BM first?!?!".
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
I'm sure the Devs dread and are cut-to-the-chase by the critical remarks of closed beta testers than any open forum hater, especially those who've demonstrated a keen ability to criticize something with which they have no knowledge or experience or think posting the same pet peeve in multiple threads gives them a bigger voice rather than, in actuality, a much smaller voice.
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They also tend to be the people that write the guides, verify the numbers, test the mechanics, write up the content, and do all the things without which the rest of the playerbase would be in the dark ages. The notion that the closed beta testers are sycophants is actually pretty offensive, albeit in a sad way.|
The majority of people that they usually invite into Closed Betas tend to understand that the things they see, test and play with, on Beta, may not come out on live for a long, long time. Open Beta would have come with both sets already out and wouldn't be judged around ideas such as "we got Staff first and BM second... how dare they release BM first?!?!". |
Jeez, Venture is usually a closed beta tester. Because when you think *** kissing sycophant, you think Venture.
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Oh, look, Darth_Khasei tells another person to stop posting. Clever argument. You win the day!
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
I never said that people that have a different opinion than me are bum kissers and you making that up is childish and stupid on your part. For you to make that up and then react as if I said is a bit to crazy for me to deal with keep it to yourself.
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