Give Scrappers a real inherent power

Come on girl, no need to get all personal, you don't know me or my personality any better than I know you and your personality.

I do like this persona a bit better than the one during BETA testing of BM, that girl was "special".

Hypocrite.

Hmm...someone is not thinking clearly.

The first five pages or so cover it pretty well.

Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe ::looks at RaikenX's signature:: Something funny.

Points and laughs.

Pretty sure Reppu's not going to bikini it up, but hey.

For it to be Benny Hill, it's about as likely for that to be me or Darth.

A female in a bikini sounds good to me, no need to go any further.

You've always had the power to leave! Just click your heels together three times and say, "There's no place like the rest of the forums, there's no place like the rest of the forums, there's no place like the rest of the forums."

Or, y'know, use the drop-down menu at the bottom. Whatever works.

There was some good stuff on a few of the later pages.

ROFL. Stalkers now do one thing a little better than scrappers. They pay for that privilege with lowered survivability and less AoE. The price of getting a problem fixed for them is that they likely won't have another serious adjustment before the servers shut down and will be pigeonholed in 2nd banana position till the end.

1. Stalkers paid nothing for their latest round of fixes.

2. I'll take that bet.

I'd suggest reading what was written

I'd suggest the same to you. Stalkers didn't 'pay' for anything for their buffs. They took no survivability losses (they GAINED survivability by a good margin).

Keep in mind dealing more damage is ALSO more survivability. But I mean the +HP Cap was a HUGE buff.

You failed here.

Good so scrappers and brutes having more survivability, and dealing more damage if the number of opponents is greater than one doesn't put stalkers solidly behind both scrappers and brutes.

Now seeing as you and Arcana can't parse a sentence please tell me where I said in this quote that they paid with a penalty to their stats ?

Maybe you just weren't as clear as you thought you were when you said that?

That statement is untrue unless the Brute or Scrapper is TW/Fire, or the Brute is SS/Fire, and the Stalker is EM (ALL the AoE plus having great ST thanks to AS), KM (100% Damage 100% Critical Burst. Add in Fireball for AoE that makes Brutes and Scrappers envious) or StJ (Spinning Strike is sufficient. Sweeping Cross is decent).

You weren't as clear as you thought you were, is the only problem I see. Sorry. Being wrong twice is rough.

Could be. Thought it was pretty obvious. We are talking about an equivalence laid out as a single sentence

Awwe

Not even close on the aoe.

EDIT: Just because it makes me laugh

You mean unless it's

Claws vs Claws
Broadsword vs Broadsword
etc etc etc

Yeaaaah, Stalkers didn't pay anything for the changes they got.

The price of 'not ever being looked at in another decade' is also not happening. The devs themselves said they were going to do a bit more tweeking with Stalkers...like, the next beta. Yes, they're going to normalize the Assassin's Strike animations so that they all animate in 1 second vs a couple animating faster than 1 and the majority animating slower than 1. They also said they may look into shortening Placate's animation. This was all put off till later because they didn't have the resources to do it when the Assassin's Focus gimmick was added.

So yeaaaah, Stalkers didn't pay what you think they paid...

Yes, corner cases like Claws and the Swords very much lose AoE but many of the sets lose no AoE or only lose AoE on a technicality that it wasn't very good AoE to begin with (Dark Consumption, Repulsing Torrent, that cone in Staff) but gain the ability to combine their inherent with the AoE they have, resulting in a 50% chance of double damage on the targets hit.

Primarily, why I didn't want Stalker to be so greatly pushed beyond Scrapper was because I wanted the proliferated sets to retain as much AoE as possible, but the changes made to stalker may justify the old 'sacrifice AoE' some of the old sets did. When Stalkers get Fire Melee, I want them to keep Fire Sword Circle because that's one of the keystone powers of the set...and I want them to keep Breath of Fire because that is a decent power and a thematic one that can fulfill certain concepts and it'd suck if Stalkers lose either one for AB.

That said, I thought you were leaving Reppu. I mean, you didn't put a bikini on...not even a one piece.