Shed a tear for Kinetic Melee

To quote the patch notes:

Scrapper/Kinetic Melee


This power set was unintentionally receiving the Tanker damage bonus in PVP. This has been corrected, and all of the powers should now be doing their proper damage.
Fixed an issue where Concentrated Strike would deal double its intended damage in PvP.



How long has KM been out? A year at the least, 18 months. 2 Years? I am not sure..but it has been awhile. Since it came out, it has been regarded as one of, if not the, best melee set in pvp. Anyone with half a brain KNEW the set was overpowered. How could you not, when you hit squishies for 800+ easily? We knew a nerf, a fix, a balance was coming.

Which begs the question..if WE, the players, could tell KM, and particularly CS, was out of whack, thereby conforming to HAVING at least half a brain...WHY has it taken so long?

The fact the entire set somehow had 'tank' damage mods, clearly SUCH an easy mistake to make (if it was so easy to put a tick in the wrong box, a bit of code referencing the wrong other bit of code, why wasnt it just as easy to fix?) is fair enough. I can understand that. I mean..it was only a new set that supposedly went through vigorous beta testing..we cant expect the devs to..you know..LOOK at in game performance, say, a month after release and think..Wow, whats up here?

If the rest of the set had slightly increased damage, ok, maybe that is a bit harder to spot. But..CS does DOUBLE damage. Rocket science to see it was hitting too hard, really. Could not a single dev, tester, gm, mod, you name it, have seen or heard about it, in two years??

And..sadly is why pvp in this game we love is lolpvp. Two years too fix a blatantly broken power. If the fix came in a month, people would have been a bit upset, but understanding. As things are now..two years is just a pathetic wait to gut a set. Much as I did hate getting hit by CS..I used it myself, and it was NICE to actually have a melee attack that seemed to redress some of the range vs melee imbalance (another issue of course).

Guess this leaves the only decent melee options as...stalkers with sharks (cause that is so melee) or ss with rage and earth epics (again, so melee). I am just glad my KM scrapper was made for pve anyway.

(Please note, I have not actually tried KM in i22 pvp yet, due to the genius cox team NOT preloading another 500+ mb patch. If someone can make a case for KM still being good, I am happy to go back on my words.)

Zwill said there wasn't a Nerf done too it, but a bug that cause alot of damage and that they never got around too fixing yet.

I don't see anything wrong here, The power set is still good and works well.

What got you guys mad is the fact your Cheat Code isn't no longer working, you don't need it, too do good in pvp, True Skills come form the player and not a bug power set.

I been kicking azz in pvp on a Fire/Wp Scrapper for years with out any cheats or bugs such as what Km got.

Way to pay attention green. I admitted KM, and CS were broken. Did you not see that? My problem is that it took SO long to fix what was such an obvious issue. And saying that people are crying about their cheat code being fixed is just idiotic. KM was the flavour of the month, repeatedly, because it was GOOD. You are basically saying it is the players fault for using the set, for 2 years, because it was obviously busted and a nerf was coming.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Psy blast is OP, and especially with the placate proc. If that set got nerfed, fixed, update now, would you make the SAME argument? Everyone who made a psy blaster just needed a cheat code to win. How about everyone with a sharks stalker? A mind/fire dom? A ss tank with earth epics? People play the best because they want to win.

And..you expect them to NOT be a lil ticked off when their favourite set is gutted, just because it took the devs TWO years to work out that, hey, yes, CS was doing a tad too much damage?

Also..good to hear that CS is apparently still a good power. Just sad it took two years too get there.

Basically PvP is completely irrelevant at this point. So few people participate in it, and it's been so ridiculously broken for so long, there is no hope for it.

The strange thing isn't that they "fixed" KM after 2 years. It's that they actually spent time doing something at all for PvP. When almost every power, and essentially the whole system, is completely bugged, randomly fixing one of the broken powers seems pretty pointless. The rest is still broken, and there's still like 100 total people that even care.

People complain that things are broken and about how they've been broken a long time.

But this complaint has its own spin. This post is complaining that it took too long to get fixed. As in, it's fixed now.

Am I missing a point? Or is that the size of this?

It's actually not that uncommon. The idea is basically that if they were perfectly fine with it being broken for a whole 2 years, why do they suddenly fix it now? Fixing bugs is great, but it only makes sense if you actually take it seriously. Fixing one random bug out of a hundred really serves no purpose other than to annoy the people that the fix affects directly. I think that if they routinely fixed PvP bugs, nobody would complain about this issue. But the way this looks, it's like their only goal was to make yet another set worthless in PvP.

I *WAS* wondering why the Scrapper version of CS did twice that of the Stalker version...

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Originally Posted by Shubbie Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.

I've tried KM several times, but the animations were always WAY too long for me.

Sorry but: lolpvp

In all seriousness, from the moment Arenas were introduced it should have been clear to everyone involved that this game's core audience was not interested in PvP. The PvP zones are and have been dead for so long that they should simply be repurposed as PvE zones and all development on PvP should come to a halt as to not waste any more resources on it.

I know that would tick of the .000000002% of the population that still PvP's, but 8 years into the game, the reality that this game will never have PvP of any significance needs to be recognized.

Prior to I13 PvP was not the most popular thing in the game but it actually drew a PvP averse person like myself to it. After I13 I have only been back once and it was unreal how much pure SUCK they introduced at that time.

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this really shouldn't surprise anyway. other than they actually touched anything regarding pvp.