Ghost Rider: Oh now THAT'S annoying!
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Posted on: 2012-02-17 10:17 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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I really only like 3D for certain scenes where the 3D matters. Avatar it helped with the forest scenes because you could see where people were in relation to trees and branches.|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Movies that are designed to be seen in 3D like Avatar or How To Train Your Dragon are great fun, provided you aren't one of the people who suffer from physical ills just by using the process. But movies that are post-converted are almost universally terrible in 3D.
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I don't hate 3D generally, but I usually find it does not add much. And it always takes me awhile to adjust to it when a movie starts.
I take the other route, I haven't been to a theater to see a movie since the 3D movement took off. Some of the last few movies were just when it was starting to creep into parts of movies like Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and Superman Returns. Of course, since I'm running a movie review blog now I should probably go see the new Ghost Rider in theaters, I didn't even realize it was going to be in 3D.
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I'm having the same problem. I can't find it in Smell-O-Vision anywhere!
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Well, I completely spaced and forgot to hit the late-late showing of the new Ghost Rider flick last night.
So I go and look up tickets in my area for the non-3D version. Basically, unless I leave work early, there quite literally AREN'T any! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot ? |
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Pretty much right.|
Originally Posted by Organica
I'm going to see the Secret World of Arrietty.
Pretty sure Studio Ghibli will be the last place on earth to make a 3-D movie. ^_^ |
Just did a quick check of one theater chain in my area, and no 3D versions to be found. Thank GAWD!
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I used to randomly sometimes head to the movies after shopping....or just go on a whim some nights.
Now it's a carefully planned strike. I go when the 2D movies are. They are around $8. The 3D are around $14/$15.
I've gone there and everytime it's convenient....there's a 3D movie only....last few times that happened, I walked out, went home and watched Netflix.
I realized a few days ago I haven't been to the movies in MONTHS....I wanted to see Underworld...was gonna go a few days ago, and realized I missed it around here. *shrugs* Oh well.
Double feature of "Underworld" and "Chronicle." Probably will see Chronicle *IF* I get to it in time...if not, I don't even know what's showing anymore. Hollywood has certainly shot itself in the foot (at least in my case.) I used to know what was coming out every week and went a few times a week or at least once.
.....bah.
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i agree about disliking 3D movies, thats about 99% why i dont go out to see movies at the theaters anymore is cause they almost always are in 3D
aside from that why do they feel they need to remake a whole bunch of older movies in 3D? (star wars episode 1 being the most recent 3D remake)
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i kept my 3d glasses, since they are one of the reasons the price is higher. a few weeks later i went to see a diff 3d movie, i told them i still had my old glasses thinking i didn't have to pay for the new ones.. how wrong i was in my theory. 
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That's when you tell the studio "Alpha Mike Foxtrot," at least until the DVD comes out. Or... this IS Ghost Rider, and is unlikely to be worthy of a theatre viewing to begin with. I say, just wait.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Well, I completely spaced and forgot to hit the late-late showing of the new Ghost Rider flick last night.
So I go and look up tickets in my area for the non-3D version. Basically, unless I leave work early, there quite literally AREN'T any! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot ? So now, because people are figuring out what a ***tastic gimmick 3D is, the studios are basically going to force it on us unless we want to just take half a day off work to see it in the middle of the day or go in over a weekend? |
Having said that, if Prometheus turns out to be 3D I am going to be seriously bummed.
[Dont think it is planned as such, but studios do stranger things all the time.]
3D (and remakes and reboots) will go away when people stop going to see them
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Nobody actually sees in 3D. We all see with two 2D "cameras" spaced a few inches apart. The brain then integrates those two images into a facsimile of 3D that quickly becomes a 2D image the further the object of interest is from the beholder. Only objects in the near field of vision are "real" 3D in normal human vision. Beyond a certain distance the images the left and right eyes see are effectively identical.
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And?
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Originally Posted by Rodion
Nobody actually sees in 3D. We all see with two 2D "cameras" spaced a few inches apart. The brain then integrates those two images into a facsimile of 3D that quickly becomes a 2D image the further the object of interest is from the beholder. Only objects in the near field of vision are "real" 3D in normal human vision. Beyond a certain distance the images the left and right eyes see are effectively identical.
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How exciting. Ooh, tell me about how we don't actually smell objects, but only sense the aromatic molecules released by the object, which may be very different from the molecules that actually make up most of it.|
Originally Posted by Rodion
Nobody actually sees in 3D. We all see with two 2D "cameras" spaced a few inches apart. The brain then integrates those two images into a facsimile of 3D that quickly becomes a 2D image the further the object of interest is from the beholder. Only objects in the near field of vision are "real" 3D in normal human vision. Beyond a certain distance the images the left and right eyes see are effectively identical.
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Then perhaps we could digress into a discussion of the commonalities and differences between taste and smell.
All a-quiver with anticipation here.
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Neither do I. Well done 3D doesn't cause half so many problems as the more poorly done types (though there's always some eye strain). And yeah, it can be quite nice when implemented well.
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Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid
I don't actually hate 3D movies.
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Well, found a place with a later 2D showing I could actually get to. Was outta my way, but I went.
The basic outline of the movie is about all there is. A basic outline.
The movie jumps from set piece scene to set piece scene with no fluidity, and cuts are horrendously jarring.
The narrative by Cage could probably have been completely done away with. There was some weak humor in there, but it was almost totally unnecessary.
A couple of the jokes were actually funny. The "flamethrower" was actually a setup for a later payout "Think of a flamethrower".
That and the Twinkie gag was funny.
Basically this film is kinda all over the place, as was Cage.
Essentially this was a $75 million bender where people sat around, got drunk, thought about what would look cool and someone jotted it down. Then, the next morning, someone took the drunken scrawl, filtered it through their hangover, and tried to film it while getting drunk again...with attitude.
It isn't "Showgirls" bad, or "Any Highlander but the first one" bad. But if it makes back it's costs, I'll be surprised.
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the problem is that Ghost Rider in the comics looks cool but that's it
he was totally different in the Chamions then his own comic (first one). He had no interesting villains.
There is basically nothing to do with the Ghost Rider, he may as well be an AE farm baby on Freedom
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There are worse comic books that movies could be made from. Can you imagine someone making a Howard the Duck movie? Oh.....nevermind.
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
the problem is that Ghost Rider in the comics looks cool but that's it
he was totally different in the Chamions then his own comic (first one). He had no interesting villains. There is basically nothing to do with the Ghost Rider, he may as well be an AE farm baby on Freedom |
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Don't sweat it. It's probably best for your sanity if you skip the movie anyway. Seriously, if I were in Gary Friedrich's shoes, I'd be showing up at Marvel's office with a shotgun for whoever approved that movie. The first one was better, and that's saying something. ( Granted, the motorcycle in the first one counted for a LOT )
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Well, I completely spaced and forgot to hit the late-late showing of the new Ghost Rider flick last night.
So I go and look up tickets in my area for the non-3D version. Basically, unless I leave work early, there quite literally AREN'T any! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot ? So now, because people are figuring out what a ***tastic gimmick 3D is, the studios are basically going to force it on us unless we want to just take half a day off work to see it in the middle of the day or go in over a weekend? |
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It's not always a gimmick. Sometimes it's actually put to good use. Avatar was a good example. I hear the 3D version of Up actually did so as well. But, yes, in most cases, 3D is just there because it's the new hot thing and doesn't really add anything to the movie experience.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
3D is a gimmick that I hope would just die already
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I will say, though, that today's 3D is a lot better than the old redandblue glasses 3D.
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You know what? I don't mind that. I've always been willing to pay for comfort. If that means paying for a 3D movie and then paying to NOT see it in 3D, that's better than not seeing the movie at all because some ******* marketing exec decided to not run a single non-3D showing in the only decent cinema in town.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
While that fixes the headache problem, it now means that you'll be watching a 2D movie for the admission price of a 3D one.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Both megaplexs "near" me have GR in both 3D and 2D.
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Yeah, but were the 2D shows all the "early" matinees? Or were there any 2D shows in prime time (after 7PM)?
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It's usually the theater management that determines how often a film plays in what format. Considering the markup on 3D films, I would guess that technical or logistical conflicts would be the more likely cause for not showing the film in 3D.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You know what? I don't mind that. I've always been willing to pay for comfort. If that means paying for a 3D movie and then paying to NOT see it in 3D, that's better than not seeing the movie at all because some ******* marketing exec decided to not run a single non-3D showing in the only decent cinema in town.
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That and the 2D showings are usually afternoon matinees, which are traditionally lower priced.
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Originally Posted by Black Pebble
It's usually the theater management that determines how often a film plays in what format. Considering the markup on 3D films, I would guess that technical or logistical conflicts would be the more likely cause for not showing the film in 3D.
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The thing is, I get the distinct feeling that those movies were made for 3D. A lot of the crap that we watch in 3D wasn't, so it looks like some super-dark popup book that throws crap at you at random intervals.
See This article for a much better explanation of the problems some 3d movies have.
I was going to go see Ghost Rider 2 because it's by the guys who made the Crank movies, so it's assured of being demented -- which is a compliment -- but I discovered that it's only being shown in 3D in the theatres near me. (Ironically, the one theatre that specializes in digital projection and 3D film is the only one in the area showing it in 2D, but it's about 45 minutes away and only twice a day in the middle of the afternoon.) So I won't be seeing this movie until it comes to Netflix streaming.
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