Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 2/14/12

I'd expect 3-4 packs a year, each one with a unique new costume set in it.

True, I don't think they lied as such. I do however think they defined (or maybe promoted) the micro-transactions in Freedom in opposition to bundle-based micro-transactions.

The packs are clearly priced. 80pp (or less!) each, for five cards, including at least one which is at least rare. Seems pretty clear to me. You don't have to like it, but it's hardly ambiguous or deceitful.

"Freeloaders"... wow.

I'm not talking "value to you". I'm talking retail value. Obviously to anyone not intentionally trying to spin-doctor.

$15/month.

Intentional. Because it was pretty obvious the person I was replying to didn't see it and I wanted to make sure he did.

With, of course, the major difference being that in this case, what we are risking is actual money - or something with equivalent (if not recoverable) value.
If the game charged me $1 for every character defeat, I imagine I wouldn't play.
Would you?

No, I like knowing what I buy before I buy it. I'm not interested in purchasing consumables in this game, especially consumables that I can't select. In this system, about the only guarantee is that you will purchase an uncertain number of unselectable consumables.

How much money does getting a character defeated in the ITF or the Shard cost again?

And I wish them the very best of fun and fortune in doing so.
Yet, when I ask for the same dispensation from you - the ability to get things that I want in the game in a perfectly reasonable and much-done manner (buying them directly or earning them through in-game content), you tell me I am being unreasonable.

Again - how much does the ITF cost to run? $1? $5?
I'm strange (apparently) in that I enjoy playing the game. Getting stuff for doing so is a nice bonus. I like the ITF - the Roman armor set is a nice perk, but I like playing my characters.
I don't enjoy watching my bank account balance drop. If I can get something directly and predictably for that, I can decide easily if that's a good use of the unpleasant act of handing my money over to another person. If it's a crap shoot... sorry, my money comes too hard for that.

If your preference is to get the EO pieces through random means, please, be my guest, knock yourself out - I sincerely hope you enjoy the experience.
Now please extend the same courtesy - to acquire these costume pieces though the means I prefer - to me.

obviously

They said words to the effect that the store would give them more options to offer things in an ala carte fashion that the older option packs did not. Mostly because the NCSoft store sucks (which is ironic). However, they also explicitly said that bundles would still exist in Freedom in some form. Knowing in advance that one day super packs would be coming, I paid particular attention to whether they ever contradicted that statement or even implied that everything would always be offered ala carte. To the best of my knowledge, they did not. If someone has something that specifically does so without requiring an implied narrative, I would love to be pointed at it. Because if they did so, that would be an inexcusable error on their part.

This is perfect

If this was the only way to get ATOs and Catalysts, I probably would not complain about it; as much.

And that is a timeline I don't have access to.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

That's a really pathetically desperate reach and you damn well know it.

I'm offering it to you now. Information about the Super Packs, and any other unannounced content from the focus group, was explicitly embargoed until it became officially announced content. The moment it did, I did publicly confirm they were originally previewed at that event, although those posts may no longer exist on the forums.

It is ambiguous if I get the ATO(s), Catalyst(s), Costume parts, or even the Vanity Pet I would want or not. It is ambiguous how much stuff I can't use I'd get from the packs as well.

If the costume parts were a bundle costing X points, that wouldn't be ambiguous.

If the ATOs sets were a bundle costing X points, that wouldn't be ambiguous.

And I see no reason not to call them that. They are not paying for a subscription, and conversely subscribers are paying more for not only the subscriber's access, but the premium and free players access as well. That is one point I do fully agree with Arcanaville on.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

Bull. It could be as little as 4 packs or it could be as many as 100 packs. No one knows, not even the designers.

Edit:
You have a 10% chance per common card to get either the Belt or Sleeves first. For the second part of those two, you have a 11.11% for any future common card to get the other part.

You have a 13% chance per uncommon card (one per pack in at least 50% of the packs) to get the head detail, jacket, or gloves first. For the second part of those three, you have a 14.94% for any future uncommon card to get the second part. For the third part, you have a 17.97% for any future uncommon card to get the last part.

You have a 12% chance per rare card (one per pack in at least 50% of the packs, but not every pack as some don't contain a rare) to get the helmet, pants, or boots first. For the second part of those three, you have a 13.64% for any future rare card to get the second part. For the third part, you have a 15.79% for any future rare card to get the last part.

You have a 14.11% chance per very rare card (one per pack in at least 50% of the packs, but not every pack as some don't contain a very rare) to get the shoulder, back detail, or gun first. For the second part of those three, you have a 16.43% for any future very rare card to get the second part. For the third part, you have a 19.67% for any future very rare card to get the last part.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

I remember those days also. Yesterday was one of them.

Mr. 27,000 post. I dare not duel with you.

WANTED: pics of WarWitch twirling her moustache

I wouldn't be much bothered by this, either, if this was the case; or some reasonable parity.

Snow Globe is accurate; no contortion made.

At what point did the devs reveal that CoH Freedom would have exclusive but randomly awarded items for sale on the Paragon Market?

At the rates new powersets are being released the points included with a subscription are more than sufficient to pay for them. Costume sets and new content HAVE been charged for in the past. The old booster packs (and there were quite a few of them) were costumes (plus a few other things) that you had to pay extra for. As far as new zones/trials/etc those have all so far been included with VIP access. And in the past there WERE times you had to pay for those (City of Villains and Going Rogue both had to be purchased seperately when originally released.) The idea that VIPs are getting less for their money than they used to has absolutely no basis in reality.

And I remember when new power sets and costumes came out a couple times a year at best. Oddly, that was the same time...

Yes, but the buyer knows he's got no guarantees there. Thus, it is perfectly clear what he is buying. Random chance. Or, if you prefer, gamble. But not the illegal kind. So to say that the buyer is being "misled" or that Paragon isn't being clear on what they're selling is a desperate reach.