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Actually, I count on the player community's creativity whenever a new costume pack comes out, but there are always limits. The deal-breaker in this pack looks to be the hats. Unlike the helmets from the Martial Arts pack, which sensibly had a very basic, flexible design under more ornate add-ons, these seem locked in to a Wuxia look.
Cimeroran helmets are also kinda locked into a certain look, but that didn't stop the devs making them


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He means that they need to continue to make unique parts for the male models just as they do for the female models. You can have an item like a coat that is still unique because of the button position, or by changing moderate things.

For the record, I am one of those people who could become very passionate about this issue.
When is the Huge Model gonna see exclusive-item love??!!


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When is the Huge Model gonna see exclusive-item love??!!
I know you are kidding, but I will say I do lump that into "male".


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Wait, isn't Chinese New Year soon?


 

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Cimeroran helmets are also kinda locked into a certain look, but that didn't stop the devs making them
So there's a precedent for little-used overly specific headgear. The Roman Centurion helmet is a lot less flexible than the Martial Arts pack's Warrior helmet and consequently isn't chosen as much.

The best strategy for maximum variety with art direction is to come up with comparatively plain basic elements first and then design more ornate details as add-ons.


 

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Do you have any examples of something that should be a male-exclusive item?
Codpieces.



huge ones.


 

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So there's a precedent for little-used overly specific headgear. The Roman Centurion helmet is a lot less flexible than the Martial Arts pack's Warrior helmet and consequently isn't chosen as much.

The best strategy for maximum variety with art direction is to come up with comparatively plain basic elements first and then design more ornate details as add-ons.
If that's the case then I'd argue that a batman style cape or cowl has very limited use. Other than a superhero of that specific style or lucador what else wears something like that?

EDIT: I agree that we do need more superheroic stuff, but I'm just pointing out that I find superheroic stuff pretty limiting on it's own.


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Codpieces.



huge ones.
So just the one costume part that really should be male-only? You'll need to come up with more than that of you want to support the need for special stuff just for the boys


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Jeans - wee!
Tops - puke.

Summing it up: whatever, cool.


 

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If that's the case then I'd argue that a batman style cape or cowl has very limited use.
I specifically used the example of a Batman/Space Ghost-style cowl, a costume element that spans the Golden, Silver, and modern age superhero designs. The plainer version (Space Ghost) would be the base, then additional elements could be incorporated, whether Batrman-like points, ears, radio antennae, goggles, or whatever. The Chinese Dynasty's helmet doesn't look like it could incorporate anything other than the original pieces without running into serious clipping problems at the very least.


 

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Codpieces.



huge ones.
Don't forget the (padded) golden pantaloons.


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Love the costumes, but I'm disappointed at what looks like a trend: limited unique pieces for male characters, with significant proliferation and unique pieces to female characters. While I can appreciate the precarious situation the costume team is in with the uproar caused by the Gunslinger pack, the problem wasn't that there were unique pieces on both sides but that the themes weren't consistent.

Please, begin to make unique parts for both sexes again under consistent themes. Between this Chinese Dynasty and the Sash/Carnival Costume packs, things are heading down the other extreme with just as passionate resentment building for those of us who value our male characters.
This.

Also ...

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On the other hand, it's helpful to have some more civilian options with the Pocket D pack. Its nicely designed costume elements can either function as a secret identity outfit or be combined with a variety of other costume sets' elements for an alternative look.

Also, you know what sells? Jackets.


 

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Actually I've waiting for "female sleek bikini bottoms" to match the "tights sleek tops" for almost 8 years now.
There's -always- something they could add in that area.
Me to! Been waiting and waiting! Gaaaah! I keep wondering what's taking it so long to come out.


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Do you have any examples of something that should be a male-exclusive item?
Codpieces.



huge ones.
Just so! Consider Codpiece...an actual Doom Patrol supervillain.


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Do you have any examples of something that should be a male-exclusive item?
Male have a few bare chest options, that female cant have, understandably. :P But there are lots of things that females have, that I don't understand why males do not.

3 Carnival of Light Masks
4 Carnival of Light Head wear
Carnival of Light Belt
Small Padded Gloves
Sleeves Gloves
Dragon Bracer
Cloud Bracer
Classic Steampunk 02 Belt
Tight Pants with Boots

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Females have 8 more face options that males
10 more young face options
9 more hairstyles
and 16 more Boot options
shoulder/neck options that have no male equivalent
a lot more skirts and shorts options compared to males kilts.

Not to mention LOADS of tops with skin options that males cant wear, again understandably. I am not going to argue the ethics of cross dressing in a T rated game lol. But there should be some more options for males to balance that out. Like bare chest with hair (not the hairy beast chest, just a normal guys chest) and some better bare chest tattoo and or pierced options. Maybe some native american beaded chest pieces or body paint. I could spend hours looking up the many potential options.

Also, there is no female huge body type, so to lay it all out for everyone, we are both getting shorted one way or another.
There is balancing that needs to be done for both genders, agreed?



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Just so! Consider Codpiece...an actual Doom Patrol supervillain.

You think he's compensating..?


 

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Love the untucked shirt option! Actually, love all the shirts and jeans. I might actually have to spend points, assuming I'm able to purchase only the pieces that work for men.

As always, thank you for the notes, VK.


 

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Digging the jeans and the jacket.

Chinese armor is awesome too.

Shirts are meh.


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