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If you think no one outside of Korea would wear pants like those, you haven't traveled much, have you?
Evisu went out of style years ago, as did Ed Hardy. Mind you the jeans are bootcut to begin with so talking about style seems a bit pointless. Regardless, my point was that different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns. If you disagree with that click quote and explain why.


 

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Metalic minidresses are streetwear in Korea?
brb, Korea.


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Yes the cool costumes look very cool, but what I really want to know is, WHEN WILL THAT EPISODE OF WIN BEN STEIN'S MONEY WITH ZWILLINGER IN IT be in the paragon market?


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Evisu went out of style years ago, as did Ed Hardy. Mind you the jeans are bootcut to begin with so talking about style seems a bit pointless. Regardless, my point was that different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns. If you disagree with that click quote and explain why.
To be fair, fashion is pretty hard to keep up with and history is geographic. This leaves the artists at Paragon making items for multiple markets. For better or worse, I'd guess they get more sales trailing rather than leading.

For what it's worth, you are correct that aspects of the jeans in this pack have already fallen out of style in some places. Embroidery and shiny denim have all but disappeared from the subway trains here. On the runways, at least for women, this year it was a lot of crops (high waters by a different name), high rises, often baggy and awkward up top tapering tight at the calf. But a few designers were pushing the highly exaggerated wide bell bottoms this year too. On the streets, I've seen a lot of the silly Barney Rubble fake fur vests. There are also a lot of billboards pushing moon boots over ducks (wellies are already out here but alot of people are still sporting ducks)--but I've honestly not seen one person wearing retro moon boots. Just billboards and subway ads. Marketing fail on that one.


 

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I'm looking for the part of your post that disagrees with "different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns."

Help me out.


 

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Well I'm glad they put some decent pants and shirts in. The rest is okay but I don't really care much about them one way or the other. What option will the shirts be available under? It would probably look good on a "Recently De-Hulked" type character if it came with the "Tattered" Sleevless jackets option


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Both of those packs look like day 1 purchases for me, pending some disaster with regards to implementation. Kudos to the artists, let's hope the models turn out just as nice.


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Both of those packs look like day 1 purchases for me, pending some disaster with regards to implementation. Kudos to the artists, let's hope the models turn out just as nice.
Hop on the Beta server and find out


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I must have the Imperial Dynasty/Chinese New Year pack.

However, the lack of a Guan Dao for Titan Weapons means that Guan Yu will now have to haunt you. You may try to appease him with bean curd, I hear. Good luck with that.


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The concept art for the Chinese Armour does look awesome.


 

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Evisu went out of style years ago, as did Ed Hardy. Mind you the jeans are bootcut to begin with so talking about style seems a bit pointless. Regardless, my point was that different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns. If you disagree with that click quote and explain why.

What are you a 17 year old girl? lol out of style. But I do agree those patterns are lame and different fades/colors would I think be way better. But I was just assuming we could change the color like most other things or are these jeans on of those pre tinted costume pieces?


 

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You think he's compensating..?
Or maybe he was just born that way, I mean you know, he could be a living ion cannon. That fancy chest control might be operating some fancy ruby optics like Cyclops.

Now if Codpiece rode around in a jacked up dual wheeled diesel pick-up then yeah I'd say he was compensating.



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What are you a 17 year old girl? lol out of style. But I do agree those patterns are lame and different fades/colors would I think be way better. But I was just assuming we could change the color like most other things or are these jeans on of those pre tinted costume pieces?
I suppose I must be a 17 year old for saying "style" when what i meant was "fashion".


 

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All these costume pieces make me very very happy. And the Chinese New Year concept looks *amazing*.


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You may try to appease him with bean curd, I hear. Good luck with that.
Psssh. Just look for Ted Raimi wearing a cheap costume and sporting a bad accent. That's all you ever have to do.


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What are you a 17 year old girl? lol out of style. But I do agree those patterns are lame and different fades/colors would I think be way better. But I was just assuming we could change the color like most other things or are these jeans on of those pre tinted costume pieces?
The jeans can be tinted.


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Regardless, my point was that different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns. If you disagree with that click quote and explain why.
Because the folds and woven texture is baked into the basic texture. If one were to have faded or torn parts, then each new pattern of faded here and here and here would be a brand new pants made from scratch, which would be nice, but it would be a new pants and not just some easier-to-create overlay. Overlaying embroidered patterns that fit the contours of the pants is a different animal from altering the underlying texture. Labor and time limit the options.

And let me use this opportunity to defend pre-tinting in this case because there are already plenty of pants available that will take all the basic colors with dozens of overlay patterns.


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Just so! Consider Codpiece...an actual Doom Patrol supervillain.

Best costume concept art of 2012 yet. Unfortunately, something tells me the devs would only greenlight cannon boobs for female toons. Apparently its a desperate straight guy thing. *shrug*


 

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I'm looking for the part of your post that disagrees with "different fades/washes of jeans would grant greater player utility than a bunch of silly patterns."

Help me out.
No one disagreed with that, although the feasibility has issues as pointed out by ZM.

What people were objecting to was your original statement that no one outside of Korea would use the jeans/use the embroidery patterns. Which is false. heck I've seen plenty in the past couple months (and really, Debs, WHY ALL THE PINK? It looks like someone OD'd on Pepto then took a tilt-a-whirl ride and you used that to decorate your store(s)...)

So you pulled a kind of bait and switch there.


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Best costume concept art of 2012 yet. Unfortunately, something tells me the devs would only greenlight cannon boobs for female toons. Apparently its a desperate straight guy thing. *shrug*
We know at the very least the Devs would never give us -both- male crotch and female mammary based weaponry and people would whine about which ever one we didn't get because it wasn't "fair".


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We know at the very least the Devs would never give us -both- male crotch and female mammary based weaponry and people would whine about which ever one we didn't get because it wasn't "fair".
Don't forget "how much they need to add to power customization so that my crotch laser was firing from the appropriate appendage"


 

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Don't forget "how much they need to add to power customization so that my crotch laser was firing from the appropriate appendage"
I believe the correct term is "pelvic saddle projectile gun" lest you jeopardize the game's T for Teen rating.


 

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First: omgcrotchgun.

Second: As a heads up, while Imperial Dynasty is certainly inspired by the Chinese New Year, it will not be available by January 23rd, which is the start of the Chinese New Year (the earliest possible date it could be held actually). As much as we wanted to celebrate the arrival of the year of the Dragon with the costume set, our production schedule didn't quite line up with it.

That being said, you should be able to check it out on Beta Very Soon™.

-Z


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