Breaking Typecasting...


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Originally Posted by Frost Warden View Post
Arnold Schwarzenegger tried to break out of his action guy roles, with comedy movies like Kindergarten Cop, Twins, Junior and Jingle All the Way. None were very commercially successful, so he went back to sci-fi/action, with Eraser, the 6th Day, and End of Days.
True Lies did pretty well, I thought.


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I don't see how this is the case at all. He was a serious actor before this movie and a serious one after it. It's not like he suddenly became a comedian or something. He had done serious parts before this, with plenty of villains. He kept doing a mix of villains and heroes after this. It was a movie which put his name on the map more than anything before it, but it had nothing to do with breaking typecasting.


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No one has mentioned Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers yet?
I was going to if nobody else did. You would be hard pressed to find two characters less alike than Woody Boyd and Mickey Knox. Hell, they don't even LOOK alike, and were played by the same actor.


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I don't think it can really be pin-pointed to one specific movie (as the OP is asking for) but Tom Hanks has certainly broken from early "Tom Hanks roles". Looking at IMDB, it seems the craptacular "Bonfire of the Vanities" was his first big serious role, though I'd posit that "Big" was his first step to break his typecasting. Though a comedy, his role wasn't just a goofy one, he actually needed to act for it. After "Bonfire" he got on a winning streak (commercially and critically) the likes of which I don't think I've witnessed in my lifetime. 30+ years later after playing the mischievous young man behaving badly, he's now one of the most powerful people in the industry that does what he wants, when he wants.


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Arnold Schwarzenegger tried to break out of his action guy roles, with comedy movies like Kindergarten Cop, Twins, Junior and Jingle All the Way. None were very commercially successful, so he went back to sci-fi/action, with Eraser, the 6th Day, and End of Days.
The worldwide box office for Twins (1988) was $216,614,388, and Kindergarten Cop's (1990) was $201,957,688. The later Junior and Jingle All the Way made about half that in their worldwide grosses, so technically they could be counted as below expectation. The later sci-fi/action movies had much bigger budgets, so their net profits were less impressive compared to the comedies. The 6th Day (2000) grossed only $96M globally on a $82M budget - a bomb by any standards.

As for the OP's topic:
  • Teen movie protagonist John Cusack as a grifter in The Grifters (1990)
  • One-time Sweat-hog John Travolta as an underworld hitman in Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • Aging leading man Jeff Bridges as The Dude in The Big Lebowski (1998)
  • Former Ferris Bueller Matthew Broderick as a high school teacher in Election (1999)
  • Previous eye-candy Cameron Diaz as, well, a Charlie Kaufman character in Being John Malkovich (1999)


 

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James Cagney - one of the 'tough guys' of the 30's and 40's, did the musical 'Yankee Doodle Dandy' in 1942. Not exactly a sucessful break, as he went right back to being the tough guy in the rest of his films.

Also sometimes the typecasting just... shifts:

Mark Hamill has gone from one type-cast to another: Luke Skywalker to the Joker voice-actor.

DeForest Kelly did as well, going from stock western villain to stock sci-fi 'humanist'.


 

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Arnold Schwarzenegger tried to break out of his action guy roles, with comedy movies like Kindergarten Cop, Twins, Junior and Jingle All the Way. None were very commercially successful, so he went back to sci-fi/action, with Eraser, the 6th Day, and End of Days.
I think I like Kindergarten Cop as much if not more than his other movies.

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Christopher Walken - Scariest Man Alive™ - unleashing another talent...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs
His acting was the breaking of typecasting though. He was a dancer before an actor.


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Alyssa Milano went from who's the boss to movies like Embrace the Vampire and Poison Ivy 2 along with some others.
Was just going to post that.

A few others examples I haven't seen posted yet...

- Michael Keaton in Clean and Sober, or Pacific Heights

- Robin Williams in One Hour Photo

- Tom Hanks in Philadelphia


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Two from Dexter:

Collin Hanks as Travis, and John Lithgow as Trinity, even though John played a very similair role in the film, Ricochet it wasn't nearly as creepy as Trinity was.


 

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Two from Dexter:

Collin Hanks as Travis, and John Lithgow as Trinity, even though John played a very similair role in the film, Ricochet it wasn't nearly as creepy as Trinity was.
I don't think John Lithgow has ever suffered from typecasting, he's had a pretty good variety of roles in his career, even after 3rd Rock From The Sun.


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John Leguizamo in To Wong Foo.
John Leguizamo was dressing in drag in his standup and one-man show routines long before To Wong Foo. To Wong Foo actually showcased what he was known for on stage but had never displayed in any movie role he had thus far.


 

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As far as Keanu goes they probably meant The Gift.
He did a good job in that. Of course, it's easier to act out 'stereotyped' roles (the ill-mannered redneck in this instance).

My ears still bleed from listening to him in 'Point Break' and 'Devil's Advocate'


 

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Bruce Willis in "Die Hard"

I remember seeing trailers for the film a few months before it launched and people in the theater laughing at the thought of Bruce Willis, known only for "Moonlighting" and "Blind Date" at the time, being an action hero.
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Yeah, I remember that, too. It was amost a joke. David Addison as an action hero? What were they smoking? Of course, it wasn't long before people wouldn't believe me when I related this.
And what is so odd about all of that is... Afterward, the critics killed him every time he tried to do comedies again. Hudson Hawk, especially, but also Bonfire Of The Vanities and North.
However, 12 Monkeys was a great role for him that may have helped him get some other dramatic roles later on.



I'll chip in with Harrison Ford doing Regarding Henry.
Not that I think this was an attempt to break a stereo-type, so much, but it was a true craftsman ditching his box-office cool-guy leading man mystique.


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I don't think John Lithgow has ever suffered from typecasting, he's had a pretty good variety of roles in his career, even after 3rd Rock From The Sun.
True, but if you see him Footloose or 3rd Rock or 2010 it's just strange to see him as a serial killer.


 

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Kevin Costner in Mr. Brooks.

edit: Just to emphasize, I highly recommend this film.


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True, but if you see him Footloose or 3rd Rock or 2010 it's just strange to see him as a serial killer.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with breaking typecasting.


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Christina Ricci in most of her roles after being typecast as 'girl involved with the supernatural' in Casper and Addams Family, but especially in Monster and Black Snake Moan.


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Will Ferrel in Stranger Than Fiction.

As far as I know that's his only serious role. His only movie worth watching in my opinion.


 

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Will Ferrel in Stranger Than Fiction.

As far as I know that's his only serious role.
He later starred in "Everything Must Go", an adaptation of a short story by Raymond Carver, an even more serious, realistic role for him.


 

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So I don't know too many movies/characters...

But the one I thought of is:


Elijah Wood; his (to me) big appearance being in the LotR movies of course and then going to Sin City.


I never saw Sin City but...I assume that's a bit more "R" rated than a "hobbit" movie(s)


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He was actually scary in Sin City, and all the more so because he was Elijah Wood.


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Aside from Megamind of course
I think I enjoyed Megamind so much because I couldn't see Will Ferril being Will Ferril. In Megamind, he wasn't Will Ferrel, he was Megamind. And that could be because I just couldn't see him.

IMO, in pretty much every movie where Will is the center of attention as the star, the movie descends into absurd drek within five minutes. On the other hand, when he's in an ensemble cast, where he isn't the focus of the story, he can be really good.