Should Travel Powers be Inherent?

Personally, I think Ninja Run, Beast Run, and the Rocket Board should have required a power pick, and been slottable. And the Rocket Board shouldn't have been released until they had tech to keep passives and toggles on while riding it.

Amazingly Brilliant Suggestion:
Merge all the travel powers into one power pool called "The Travel Power Pool"

Tier One consists of: Fly, Super Speed, Super Leap and Teleport.

Tier Two consists of: Everything else. Yes even the current top tiers.


Rules: Tier Two is unlocked by have one power from Tier One. Thats it. So you get a travel power at level 4 and then have access to Hover or Combat Jump or Afterburner etc etc.

The major advantage I see of doing this would be that you could add new modes of transport without having to create a new complete power pool. So it would be easier to add something like Beast Run into the mix.

To first answer the OP: I am indifferent. I have characters that, for conceptual reasons, have not taken a travel pool and just use some of the inherent powers (Rocket Board, etc.). Having an inherent travel power on those characters would neither help, nor hurt them, and would probably be a boon to my characters who do take travel powers. So in that respect, I would not mind if something like this was implemented.

That said, I think customization would go a long way toward increasing travel power value. Sure, the min/max community would continue using SS + SJ/CJ, but the rest of us would really appreciate it. Different effects for Super Speed, Teleport, and Fly could really flesh out some concepts (not sure what they would do for Super Jump).

I don't own any of the paid temp travel powers. I've never liked the look of Ninja Run, I don't play beast characters, and the non-customizable Rocket Board doesn't conceptually fit any of my toons. Still, I don't feel that it's necessary to make them inherent.

Most people now, as soon as they get in Atlas/Mercy join the first Sewer Trial and can get their first travel power before that's even done. Thus making them inherent is essentially just giving us an extra power pick.

What I'd rather see is an overhaul of the existing Travel Powers. There's several powers that are only mediocre in their use, and some that are downright useless. I was starting to type examples, but it was getting lengthy enough I'll probably post my thoughts in a different thread.

As someone who is STILL respeccing old alts into Inherent Fitness, I am going to ask that anybody advocating making pool powers into inherents again have an unassailably good reason for asking, or else be willing to respec all my alts again for me.

I always take combat jumping and sometimes take hasten but I never take a travel power. That change would severely screw up most of my builds. You would have to leave the current tier 1s in tier 1, leave the travel powers in tier 2, and have everything else be tier 3.

I think giving characters all four travel powers as inherent powers would be a bad idea for the same reason that Sprints do not accept universal travel power enhancements. The benefits of "free" slots for the global IOs there are a bit to good.

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Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy I agree with you on slotting .. I have played long enough that I can skip any additional powers and just take Fly, SS, ect. So along with now getting stamina without the need to take 2 other powers I never slot I have 3 power choices I never got to take until after level 20. Many of my characters don't see triple damage slots, or whatever until the 30s now because I get powers quicker but because I have so many I want to make better I can max anything out before then. I have actually taken to grabbing things like hasten (one recharge reduction and done) and Recall Friend (again one recharge) so I can use a few slots here and there to improve my primary and secondary attacks faster.

I think this is a very valid concern with making Travel powers inherent. All build rely on having a few powers that only need 1 or 2 slots to make up for the powers that need 5 or 6. Technically making the travel powers inherent doesn't make this impossible but it does reduce the choices players have to make in builds which makes builds more generic since more people will take the same one-slot-wonder powers (i.e. powers like CJ, Hover, Stealth and Haste become more common).

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Originally Posted by Steelclaw 1) Make ONE travel power Inherent upon character creation. So, you can pick one of the existing four at creation. This will be greyed out as a taken power when you later go to the Power Pool tables. If you want MORE than that one travel power then you have to spend a slot on it as normal. In any case, the inherent power chosen will count as credit towards later pool powers that require "credit" to choose.

As long as the choice is changeable during a respec I'd have no objection to the introduction of a single travel Power Only power choice being added to characters. I don't feel that it is necessary but it would be a nice little bonus.

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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum Personally, I want MORE pool powers. Heck, I'd like to see a HUGE pool power system, with virtually every powerset in the game offering a pool "lite" version available to other players.

Honestly, I doubt we'll ever see something like that. I do agree that it would be nice to have wider options in pool powers and the introduction of some non-generic ones but it's the sort of thing that ends up being a game balance nightmare (for the same reason that pure free-form powers are problematic). The compromise solution I would like to see is adding even more variety to Epic pools with things like a Dual Pistols epic pool for melee characters

People still take travel powers?

/boggle