Discussion: Announcing Issue 21: Media Blitz!
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Posted on: 2011-10-18 10:59 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Then I don't see how we can "ascend even higher". Why release a much more powerful alpha slot and make it a " must have", thus invalidating the old ones.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Yes I think that is wishful thinking at this point. It seems pretty clear that all we are getting is more options in the slots we already have. If this Issue was unlocking any of the last 5 slots I think that would have been made pretty obvious.
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It's also possible that they remain very vague so that they don't promise the next slots and can't deliver them if something unexpected happens at the last minute...
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Except his final morality choice is kill either one group of innocent unarmed civilians, or another group of innocent unarmed civilians that happen to disagree with you.|
Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
I guess so. Looks like I should have signed up with Calvin Scott from the get go.
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Which makes it clear that being the resistance is obviously the wrong choice.
Just like being loyalist.
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It's already been suggested in this thread that what we may be getting for the currently unlocked slots is a new 5th tier. Something like that could be considered (in vague Devspeak) to be giving use something to "ascend higher to" without having to unlock the remaining slots yet.
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Originally Posted by Nebulhym
Then I don't see how we can "ascend even higher". Why release a much more powerful alpha slot and make it a " must have", thus invalidating the old ones.
It's also possible that they remain very vague so that they don't promise the next slots and can't deliver them if something unexpected happens at the last minute... |
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Oh I missed that part. Gosh, I hope we don't get a 5th tier...new ultra-ultra-rare salvage?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
It's already been suggested in this thread that what we may be getting for the currently unlocked slots is a new 5th tier. Something like that could be considered (in vague Devspeak) to be giving use something to "ascend higher to" without having to unlock the remaining slots yet.
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I'm still trying to figure out how anyone would think that sonic fences that only exist above ground would work against creatures that often inhabit tunnels. I've seen some supposedly really smart people do really dumb things in my time, but if I lived on Praetorian Earth, I'd already be a little nervous about the ability for our crack defense force to protect me from acid indigestion much less Hamidon.
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Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing
Not that he is still alive. That the only reason the people are still alive is because he felt like not killing them during the truce. And now it is over. And that sonic fences have, by the way, been tried before and failed. I might be a little nervous.
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Maybe. As you did aptly point out much could be hidden within the smoke and mirrors of Devspeak. |
Originally Posted by Nebulhym
Oh I missed that part. Gosh, I hope we don't get a 5th tier...new ultra-ultra-rare salvage?
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No, our plan is to go to TPN and begin to broadcast My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic.|
Originally Posted by CaptainMoodswing
Wait, so the plan is to take the information about Hamidon, and broadcast it to the public?! Won't this cause mass hysteria and significant civilian casualties? Or do we not care because this is war and them's the breaks? lol
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I don't think it will be tier 5s, because the Lore slot is specifically excluded. I think we'll just see a wider variety of choices for the slots listed, and the "Ascend to higher levels" is just over-excited marketing copy. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, via either T5s or new slots unlocking, but I'm keeping expectations low.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
It's already been suggested in this thread that what we may be getting for the currently unlocked slots is a new 5th tier. Something like that could be considered (in vague Devspeak) to be giving use something to "ascend higher to" without having to unlock the remaining slots yet.
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Just about spit on the screen there! lol
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Originally Posted by reiella
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I'm not really for or against a "fifth tier" concept myself - I'm just engaging in some idle speculation. For all we know the Alpha slot alone might get a fifth tier while the other 4 might get new options like the Lore pets did. It'd be sort of a "mixture" of new features. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Jasra
I don't think it will be tier 5s, because the Lore slot is specifically excluded. I think we'll just see a wider variety of choices for the slots listed, and the "Ascend to higher levels" is just over-excited marketing copy. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, via either T5s or new slots unlocking, but I'm keeping expectations low.
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Ughh more trials. Yeah, more herding of cats instead of smaller group stuff like Taskforces which is easier for folks to form and play.
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Trials are an important part of the game - they're just bringing up the number of Trials to match the number of TFs we have |
Originally Posted by fallenz
Ughh more trials. Yeah, more herding of cats instead of smaller group stuff like Taskforces which is easier for folks to form and play.
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Gonna have to agree with GG here. I rather like each and every Incarnate trial we currently have access to, and with the exception of the Underground Trial, they're all quicker to run than any of the endgame TFs. They're supposed to be more challenging, and the cat herding is part of said challenge.
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Originally Posted by fallenz
Ughh more trials. Yeah, more herding of cats instead of smaller group stuff like Taskforces which is easier for folks to form and play.
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I like trials. But hope they try to follow the model of the smaller trials of Lamda and BAF rather than think of BIGGER AND MORE COMPLEX trials.|
Originally Posted by fallenz
Ughh more trials. Yeah, more herding of cats instead of smaller group stuff like Taskforces which is easier for folks to form and play.
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The trials need to be fun, not displays of how clever and/or sadistic the devs can be.
So does "ascend higher" mean tier 5 or 6 in the current slots, or unlocking the next set of incarnate slots?
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This question has been asked like 3 or 4 times in this thread already.|
Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
So does "ascend higher" mean tier 5 or 6 in the current slots, or unlocking the next set of incarnate slots?
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The obvious answer is "the Devs haven't told us yet".
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Originally Posted by enderbean
Excited to see what the new judgment powers will be.
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Me too!
One poster suggested a propel-like Judgement power...where it'd open a 'hole in space' above the mobs and random objects (stars/meteors/etc) would rain down on them...
That'd be awesome....
But then I'd have to incarnate out my Grav/Therm Controller who doesn't have anything slotted (just Alpha slot unlocked)
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I'm still trying to figure out how anyone would think that sonic fences that only exist above ground would work against creatures that often inhabit tunnels. I've seen some supposedly really smart people do really dumb things in my time, but if I lived on Praetorian Earth, I'd already be a little nervous about the ability for our crack defense force to protect me from acid indigestion much less Hamidon.
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i personally don't like the trials myself for several reasons, i have done 1 keyes(successful) don't ever want to do it again.
did part of the underground, hate it. now another trial comes,wonder if they will force us to do it by only having it drop needed salvage for the new tiers.I wonder if part of this is because a bunch of paying players went non paying? why buy the cow if the milk is free?
I will admit when i first saw the title ,I thought they would finally do a big media push advertising Freedom in Real World Mags and stuff.
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This or content that can be soloed or performed by a regular team to earn incarnate experience/salvage. I loath the trials because you spend as much time getting organized as actually playing.
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Originally Posted by fallenz
Ughh more trials. Yeah, more herding of cats instead of smaller group stuff like Taskforces which is easier for folks to form and play.
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As far as the average Praetorian knows, the Sonic Fences work. |
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I'm still trying to figure out how anyone would think that sonic fences that only exist above ground would work against creatures that often inhabit tunnels. I've seen some supposedly really smart people do really dumb things in my time, but if I lived on Praetorian Earth, I'd already be a little nervous about the ability for our crack defense force to protect me from acid indigestion much less Hamidon.
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As far as anyone above them knows, this is exactly what happened with first Ward. The Fences worked, until Hamidon shoved up from the center of the city.
Actually I'm really curious if we're going to see Praetorian Hamidon eventually. Given the Praetorian design of Devouring Earth (like the Seed, the Avatar), I really think hami is more menacing looking than just a giant amoeba. Especially since, if I recall from the lore, Cole and Hamidon had it out in an epic fight that tore up a lot of country and.. I really find that hard to visualize with a giant amoeba.
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They're working on solo-friendly Incarnate stuff, but the Trials are the core Incanrate content, so they have to be worked on and balanced first.
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Originally Posted by bombur
This or content that can be soloed or performed by a regular team to earn incarnate experience/salvage. I loath the trials because you spend as much time getting organized as actually playing.
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Originally Posted by Nebulhym
Oh I missed that part. Gosh, I hope we don't get a 5th tier...new ultra-ultra-rare salvage?
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