Credit for all the downtime
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2011-09-22 09:50 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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From what I understand, by the time of your post, it was already back up. So that's more like 9 hours.
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Originally Posted by USA America
Well, more than a "few hours" Its 12 just today. and i could care less watching people on ustream. I watched a bit and it wasn't entertaining.
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Doesn't matter. NCSoft isn't responsible for their inability to play the game more frequently. That's a personal problem they need to deal with on their own.
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Originally Posted by MrDead
For some people it's not a few hours. For some people as everyone is blissfully ignoring this is most if not all of their playing time.
Some people can only play once or twice a week or month. |
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Doesn't matter. NCSoft isn't responsible for their inability to play the game more frequently. That's a personal problem they need to deal with on their own.
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Yeah who gives a **** about the EU player base right? It's their own dirty damn fault, for operating on different time zones to the US. And as for those Oceanic customers ...
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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Next you'll tell me you're a lady from a foreign country who saw my avatar and read my profile, and now you've become enamored with me and can't wait until you can finally meet me so we can begin our lives together. Oh, and you also need my bank account information for reasons that aren't entirely clear.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
According to the to-hit numbers that I looked at after that rumor got started, Praetorian Clock work do have an accuracy bonus to their attacks.
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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm
Can somebody Godwin this monstrosity already?
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Still holds, however.
If you sign a document that says "I hereby give permission for Joey Anyman to hit my left hand with a tack hammer one (1) time without any legal, physical or financial repercussions" and sign it (the agreement), Joey can hit your hand with a hammer and if you decide to take him to court he can present the document. The judge would laugh at you. |
But that's because there are laws against taking advantage of the mentally disadvantaged, especially when it comes to contract signings and whether or not they can be considered capable of entering into contracts.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
You're forgeting this isn't a random hurricane knocking over a powerline, this is schedulded, planend maintance or the results of poorly executed previous maintance.
It's also to prepare to for future customers, refunding the players the lost time, what does it cost them? It means instead of some one paying them on the 20th they pay on the 21st or the 22nd. To use your IP example, this is them cutting service to you several times over a two week period, so that they can offer service to a new housing estate. If that happened, I'm pretty sure they would give you the extra time before your next bill. Telling the players to go **** themselves and hiding behind the EULA? What will that cost them? Well players and word of mouth back lash for one. |
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Read the EULA, it isn't gonna happen, so stop expecting it.
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Originally Posted by USA America
why does everyone, when you ask for compensation assume to break it down into a dollar figure? I PAID 30 days. give me 30 days. Hell for all the inconvience they should credit everyone with an extra week game time.
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nice...
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Yeah who gives a **** about the EU player base right? It's their own dirty damn fault, for operating on different time zones to the US. And as for those Oceanic customers ...
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Im in the Oceanic timezone which gets hit by downtime USUALLY around 8-9pm.
(NOTE: I did say usually not always).
This is a really bad time for most people who work the AVERGE hours in my timezone.
But this time is also early morning USA time which is the biggest market so while it does annoy me I can also understand it. Less impact on the majority of customers.
Yes recently there have been some USA morning/midday downtimes but the vast majority of downtime is when the majority of the player base is asleep.
(In all fairness I will say that the above is an assumption as I dont know how many ppl in the American timezones play at 3am USA time). And yes I know there are multiple timezones in the USA.
But back to my point (and yes I do have one somewhere around here) the recent two downtimes started at (or will for tonights downtime) between 6:30-8:30pm in my timezone. Tonights is 3:30am USA = 8:30pm NSW (Australia).
If you dont play between 3am-11am USA (expected downtime) why should YOU get anything? What have YOU lost?
The OPTION to play the game at whatever time you want? I want to play the game when I get home for work after dinner but I cant as the regular weekly Maint starts 9pm my time. Should I whinge and ***** and demand payback? Hell no. Why? Because I know that things have to happen and sometimes things happen that werent planned for. So I deal with it. I understand NCSoft has to have downtime that affects the least number of customers. I understand that unforseen stuff happens that causes problems and if they are bad enough time needs to be spent to get it working again.
Well in that case Oceania should get regular paybacks as WE are much more affected than Americans. And yes I was being a ******** there.
Give everyone dbl xp weekend? When? Based on the forums posts for the last one ppl need 4-6+ weeks of prior notice so they can arrange leave.
But I cant play on that weekend. Sorry ive got something on. So I miss out on my payback. Wahhhhhhhhhhhh I get nothing you all suck.
As for ppl having issues with the EULA - you signed it. Deal with it.
I work for a company that provides support for a propriety software.
We do not offer support on our Sundays. We state this in out SLA (yes I know its diferent to a EULA but is similar enough for my point).
If a customer's database crashes on Sunday or after hours on Saturday they have no way of contacting us.
Dont like it? - dont agree to it which means dont play or use it. It is your choice. Find another game that doesnt have that type of disclaimer in their EULA (good luck) and play that game.
Have fun.
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They could hand out a certain number of these if NCsoft feels we deserve compensation.
i dont think its too much to ask for maybe some points to their loyal customers for putting up with the issues lately...an aura and costume part of your choice aint asking too much.
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Y'know I'm pretty sure that's actually pretty funny but I'm not in the Friggin' Taser loop unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
I'm just saying, you are doing the world's worst Friggin' Taser impersonation.
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Just in time for Halloween: How to be Friggin' Taser in 4 Easy Steps:|
Originally Posted by MrDead
Y'know I'm pretty sure that's actually pretty funny but I'm not in the Friggin' Taser loop unfortunately.
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1. Pick the side of the argument that would incite the most response
2. Post some hyperbolic analogy you know doesn't make sense so others can pick it apart and you can, in turn, respond to them with more analogies.
3. ...
4. Profit.
You messed up somewhere around step 3 where, instead of responding to people with verbose rants full of off the wall analogies and metaphors that really don't mean anything, you just started with the "blah blah blah" nonsense. That's like admitting troll-defeat.
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Ah, I get it, I admitted no such thing I just stopped responding to those two who I personally felt had nothing to contribute, period. Then I went and watched Thor. Did you see it? It seemed kind of rushed and lackluster. And I maintain my analogies make perfect sense. 'Picked apart' or not.|
Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
Just in time for Halloween: How to be Friggin' Taser in 4 Easy Steps:
1. Pick the side of the argument that would incite the most response 2. Post some hyperbolic analogy you know doesn't make sense so others can pick it apart and you can, in turn, respond to them with more analogies. 3. ... 4. Profit. You messed up somewhere around step 3 where, instead of responding to people with verbose rants full of off the wall analogies and metaphors that really don't mean anything, you just started with the "blah blah blah" nonsense. That's like admitting troll-defeat. Keep training, kid, and one day you might make Nationals. |
As a side note getting off on people feeling cheated is disgusting. Seriously.
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See, it's like your post was a tool shed. Except the point you were trying to make was a ride on lawn mower. Somewhere along the way, when the tool shed was made, they assumed the owner would want the door up off the ground.|
Originally Posted by MrDead
Ah, I get it, I admitted no such thing I just stopped responding to those two who I personally felt had nothing to contribute, period. Then I went and watched Thor. Did you see it? It seemed kind of rushed and lackluster. And I maintain my analogies make perfect sense. 'Picked apart' or not.
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So now there's no way to get the lawn mower IN the shed without some sort of ramp system or a very very sturdy piece of plywood.
But there's also termites.
Know what I'm saying?
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You didn't pay for 30 days of game play. You paid for the permission to log in and play anytime during those 30 days. You can only play if the servers are up, which they say up front (just like every MMO) can be subject to as much downtime as necessary to keep them running.
You don't play 24/7 every day, so why should anyone compensate you for several hours of time? You have the rest of the month to make up for it, and still get your entertainment dollar's worth.
Now, "doesn't have any obligation to compensate" doesn't mean they can't do so anyway because they choose to. That's where the people that decide how much good will was lost by the downtime come in and say that the company should extend an olive branch as an apology, though they've told us why the game is down...it's not unexpected maintenance. Unless this goes on for a week, don't hold your breath.
Loose --> not tight.
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I really don't. But it WAS amusing.
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Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
See, it's like your post was a tool shed. Except the point you were trying to make was a ride on lawn mower. Somewhere along the way, when the tool shed was made, they assumed the owner would want the door up off the ground.
So now there's no way to get the lawn mower IN the shed without some sort of ramp system or a very very sturdy piece of plywood. But there's also termites. Know what I'm saying? |
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One day, if you exercise, say your prayers, and take your vitamins, even YOU can become that amusing.
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Originally Posted by MrDead
I really don't. But it WAS amusing.
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Damn. I don't exercise, pray, or take vitamins. I'll just have to stick to being right.
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Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
One day, if you exercise, say your prayers, and take your vitamins, even YOU can become that amusing.
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Now I know why everyone says you'll go blind if you continue to play with yourself...
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Originally Posted by MrDead
Damn. I don't exercise, pray, or take vitamins. I'll just have to stick to being right.
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Oh, nice one. Figuratively blind. Well played.
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Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
Now I know why everyone says you'll go blind if you continue to play with yourself...
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I think you missed my point with the "figurative" myself in that post.|
Originally Posted by MrDead
Oh, nice one. Figuratively blind. Well played.
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What I'm saying is: the horrible Taser impersonation continues.
No metaphor or analogy there.
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Bummer I gave you to much credit. I was impressed too.|
Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
I think you missed my point with the "figurative" myself in that post.
What I'm saying is: the horrible Taser impersonation continues. No metaphor or analogy there. |
So, you're just going to continue on in this vein I'm assuming? With the increasingly weak sarcastic pseudo self mockery thing?
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You can't pseudo dissect my schtick while I'm pseudo dissecting your schtick.|
Originally Posted by MrDead
Bummer I gave you to much credit. I was impressed too.
So, you're just going to continue on in this vein I'm assuming? With the increasingly weak sarcastic pseudo self mockery thing? |
At this point, your posts are getting dangerously close to becoming the forum equivalent of dividing by zero.
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Ah-ha! That sounds like a yes.|
Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser
You can't pseudo dissect my schtick while I'm pseudo dissecting your schtick.
At this point, your posts are getting dangerously close to becoming the forum equivalent of dividing by zero. |
Let me direct you to one of my 'Blah blah blah' posts...
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I'm confused: Is F_T posting with two accounts now? 
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
I agree completely with everything Sam said in one of his posts.
I have no landline. If there is an emergency, it is how I contact emergency services.
If a relative ends up in the hospital, it is how I am contacted.
If something happens at work, it is how they contact me.
If I have trouble with a delivery at work, it's how I contact either my employer or my customer, depending on the situation.
My cellphone is not a *convenience* any more than the traditional one land line in a house is. And the fact that when we DID have a land line, we were able to get them to speed up service quoting FCC regulations (line went out, they blamed us and told us they couldn't get to us for a week. Turns out it was THEIR end :/ ).
On the flip side, I understand that things like dropped calls can happen. But extended non-functionality in areas that are covered? Yes, I'd go after AT&T.
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