Where do the archetypes rank (in fun) for you?

Tied for my favourites:
Brutes. All aboard the fury train! As sturdy as a tank in normal PVE content, but with the addition of the demented steamroller playstyle and big orange numbers everywhere you go.
Corruptors. Buffs for the team, debuff the enemies. By that point the mobs are probably on about half health. Drop your biggest AOE. SCOURGE!

Enjoyable:
Fortunatas. Mine is built as a scraptroller, which might not be the most efficient way to play, but it is cool to make a guy scream inside his head while you skewer him.
Blasters. Damage and more damage, always fun, but I always feel their secondaries leave something to be desired.

Problematic (I want to like these, but I have an issue with how they play):
Controllers. Solidly locking down a huge mob is a lot of fun, but not being able to *do anything* with all these held enemies is frustrating. On a full team, not an issue, but in a 2 or 3 man group it winds me up. I also resent having to go find someone to help me because I need a mish badge for an accolade or similar and there's no way I can do it by myself. (The controllers I've rolled have been low dmg powersets though (ice/ and earth/), so I appreciate I don't have a complete overview of the AT. A fire/ or ill/ would probably make me change my mind.)
Stalkers. I find the assassin playstyle a lot of fun, maybe I just like ATs with big orange words to go with their big orange numbers. However in practice it becomes build up->assassin strike->scrap scrap scrap->eek red health->run away->repeat, which doesn't make you feel very super.

Meh (I'll play these if a particular powerset takes my interest or has some unique feature, but not in general):
Defenders. Every time I play one I wish I could scourge.
Tankers. All of the sturdy with none of the killy.
Scrappers. I want to like scrappers more, as they are a solid AT and extremely deadly, but the random crit mechanic just doesn't grab me as much as the immediacy of the fury mechanic.
Masterminds. Fallen out with masterminds, I've tried two and the micromanaging of the pets has lost my interest.

Not enough experience to say:
Dominators. I really want to like dominators but I've never got one high enough level to see for myself how powerful they are when built well. I expect if I ever get my current one (plant/fire) into the 30s and permadom'd that I will love him to bits.
HEATs. Never played either type past the Hollows.
Spiders of both kinds. Don't have one.
Night Widows. Don't have one.

TL;DR: Fun play for me is a combo of good damage and damage mitigation. I also like the inherents that change your gameplay. Hence, for me, the villain hybrid ATs are the most fun.

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My most favorite "ATs" are:

1. Those for which I have a neat concept ...
2. ... or costume ...
3. ... or with the prettiest powers.

Unless they happen to be (i.e., these are my least favorites):

1. Scrappers,
2. Blasters,
3. Dominators, or
4. Masterminds

I pretty much enjoy all the ATs except the four above. In fact, there's probably more disparity among liked or disliked powersets within each AT then between the ATs themselves.

OTOH, I don't care how cool the concept, costume, or powers, I've simply never been able to get into scrappers, blasters, dominators, or masterminds:

1. Scrappers are odd, since I absolutely love tanks, really like stalkers, and like brutes. Maybe I just like the special those ATs bring more than what scrappers bring?
2. Blasters simply have too many click powers, that are all too similar in utility (i.e. "click me for damage!") for my tastes.
3. I should probably like Dominator's but, again, find they have too many click powers. (I'd love to have Dominator secondaries on Defenders or Corruptors, though!)
4. I like pet classes in other games, and thought I'd really enjoy masterminds. Maybe they're just too much of a "good" thing?

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I'll have to stick with just my favorites and least favorites, with the rest just falling somewhere in between (in various orders, based on how I'm felling on a particular day):

1. Controllers
2/3. Scrappers/Brutes
4. SoA



11. Defenders
12. Kheldians


I just can't get used to Defenders or Kheldians, no matter how much I try. I also have some trouble with Dominators, despite the fact that they should be "Controllers +" for me (they just aren't). I keep trying them, though.

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The game ends at 50. Smilegasm
Do not ever give Mind Control a pet. We need more control sets without pets.
My characters are not "toons". They are all project characters, though.
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My primary love has always been Scrappers. Massive damage, and can be built to be nearly as tough as a brute or tank.

My most recent 50's have been two brutes and a corruptor, and I'm really enjoying the one brute and the corruptor a lot. At the moment those are my favorite characters, aside from my scrappers and my widow.

I've tried just about every AT. I don't hate any of them, except possibly my Peacebringer, but none of them are as fun as the above. My fire blaster, for example... is fun, but the fire/kin corruptor does so much more. I have a lot of Defenders, but the corruptor does more.

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my lil RWZ Challenge vid

1. Blasters
[insert big space here]
2. Corruptors
3. Stalkers
4. SoAs
5. Doms
6. MMs if I can get a concept going

Scrappers, Brutes are easy mode and boring- if you can't kill everything with 4 armors, a heal, and End power and full status protection, you should feel shame. I have tried and tried to like Controllers and I just can't get past the low damage early on. Warshades are powerful but too "busy" for me to enjoy. Can't get into most Defenders (but I do have a 45 TA/A thanks to Luminara's guide), insta-delete Tanks in the Tutorial, and (at least currently) Peacebringers are worse than wet socks on a campout.

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Ideally, the tank will die precisely as everyone else starts fighting, allowing aggro to be spread evenly among the blaster. -seebs, "How to Suck at CoH/CoV" Guide

1) Defenders
2) Scrappers

A bunch in the middle with the differences based far more on power choice or concept that AT...


And pretty much tied at the bottom of the heap

Masterminds, Blasters, Peacebringers

I frankly don't have any idea what could be done to make PBs more fun for me, personally, but I think a new secondary might do the trick for Blasters (although, I don't know what that secondary would look like) and a new Primary or Seconday or maybe even just pet skins, might be enough for me to get into a MM.

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I'd just like to make a comment about a trend I've seen in this thread.


Masterminds seem to be either near the top or the very bottom of everyone's lists. No middle ground. Love 'em or hate 'em.

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Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

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1 Peacebringers
2 Brutes
3 Warshades
4 Controllers
5 Tankers
6 Scrappers
7 Defenders
8 Dominators
9 Blasters
10 Corruptors
11 Stalkers
12 Night Widows
13 Fortunatas
14 Crabs
15 Banes
16 Masterminds

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My list.

1: Tanks
2: Controllers
3-9: Corruptors /Dominators/Brutes/Scrappers/Blasters/Masterminds/Defenders (in no particular order)
10/11: VEATS/ HEATS
12: Stalkers

I placed Stalkers last because I have yet to find a stalker combination I like. I'm trying out a ninja/ninja currently. The VEATS/HEATS are towards the end of the list as I'm really only getting around to leveling up a few of them.

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Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....

Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!

Anything level 50+ is an agonizing exercise in attrition. Nobody cares about being defeated. I can't STAND finishing a task force with 10+ defeats and it says Mission Completed. I don't care for the Useless S Grant method of combat at all.

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Triumphant Defenders Forever
Psylenz FF/Psi, ArticQuark Storm/Rad, Symon BarSisyphus Bots/psn, Max VanSydow Thugs/Dk, Cyclone Symon Bots/stm, Blue Loki Ice/Cd, Widow 46526
HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.

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The game ends at 50. Smilegasm
Do not ever give Mind Control a pet. We need more control sets without pets.
My characters are not "toons". They are all project characters, though.
Global chat @Lxndr My servers: Defiant, Liberty, Pinnacle, Virtue

1. Corruptor
2. Defender
3. Warshade
4. Everything Else

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Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.

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Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....

Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!

1)tanker
2)scrapper
3)defender
4)others not listed
5)Popo's poo
6)the worms in the dirt
7)the dirt
8)kheldians

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1) Controller
2) Domi
3) Warshade
4-6) Corrupter, MM, Defender (hard to pick one over the other)
7 ) Fort/Widow (she counts as one as she's always been a Dual Build)
8) Brute
9+) ...everything else.


But it really depends, I'm hella-enjoying a Traps/Beam defender at the mo, far more than my i21 Corruptor or Controller alts (I've discovered I just don't like Time).

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