What is the Kheldian surprise?
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Apparently all Kheldians are named Dale.
Gotta say, I did not see this twist coming.
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Awesome, I ctrl+f and typed "kheldian" in that thread and nothing came up.. Just read through it on a whim before getting back here.
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Something I'm thinking of now- If Light Form works in forms now (which is awesome) does that mean that it won't turn us into a ball of light anymore, or will dwarf and nova form be balls of light too? I'm bad at maths, but with the timers being adjusted, if LF can be made perma, will all forms be a perma ball of light? (My Beta Patch is still at 1% >=O)
Awesome, I ctrl+f and typed "kheldian" in that thread and nothing came up.. Just read through it on a whim before getting back here.
![]() edit- Something I'm thinking of now- If Light Form works in forms now (which is awesome) does that mean that it won't turn us into a ball of light anymore, or will dwarf and nova form be balls of light too? I'm bad at maths, but with the timers being adjusted, if LF can be made perma, will all forms be a perma ball of light? (My Beta Patch is still at 1% >=O) |
Light form had a new effect. It's now an aura instead of a form change.
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Light form had a new effect. It's now an aura instead of a form change.
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Also it may have just been lag, but I think we lost the no-root when using powers while its running.
Dwarf Flare is now a hand-clap. I imagine Solar Flare is as well.
I cant stay connected long enough to do a respec, otherwise id tell you how quantum acceleration is.
Dwarf Flare is now a hand-clap. I imagine Solar Flare is as well. |
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Still has its crash though...
Also it may have just been lag, but I think we lost the no-root when using powers while its running. Dwarf Flare is now a hand-clap. I imagine Solar Flare is as well. I cant stay connected long enough to do a respec, otherwise id tell you how quantum acceleration is. |
No rooting while in Light Form is why we no longer have the form-shift, as that is going to be seen as too strong with the current changes. You can basically have perma light form now, and not having rooting would be ridiculous with that. Arbiter Hawk said they are looking into FX changes for this so it is more noticeable, but that is for the future. The FX and artist types are swamped.
Same thing for the shapeshifting animation. Arbiter Hawk says he would like it to be 1.5 seconds, but the current animation looks all wrong when shortened that much. So the change would have to wait on that.
Solar and Dwarf Flare now use hand clap, as they can be used while in the air, which is a buff. We did discuss having the footstomp animation subbed in while not flying, but Hawk said that is yet again a FX issue.
I'll try to find a sum up post for what we have been debating for other changes.
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Didn't know we had new forums, or I would have put up the changes for all to discuss first of all. Might as well do so here.
No rooting while in Light Form is why we no longer have the form-shift, as that is going to be seen as too strong with the current changes. You can basically have perma light form now, and not having rooting would be ridiculous with that. Arbiter Hawk said they are looking into FX changes for this so it is more noticeable, but that is for the future. The FX and artist types are swamped. Same thing for the shapeshifting animation. Arbiter Hawk says he would like it to be 1.5 seconds, but the current animation looks all wrong when shortened that much. So the change would have to wait on that. Solar and Dwarf Flare now use hand clap, as they can be used while in the air, which is a buff. We did discuss having the footstomp animation subbed in while not flying, but Hawk said that is yet again a FX issue. I'll try to find a sum up post for what we have been debating for other changes. |
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Of all the things to change about Solar Flare, they change the animation. What do you mean, there's an elephant in this room?
Bah, hate the hand clap animation ¬¬
Still...nice changes. Me likey.
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Not fair.
PBs get all kind of buffs and get to swap a LotG caddy for a fun power and we have to try and squeeze in a teleport.
Not fair, I say!
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Not fair.
PBs get all kind of buffs and get to swap a LotG caddy for a fun power and we have to try and squeeze in a teleport. Not fair, I say! |
The most important Warshade buff I wanted was uninterruptable form shifting, and we got that. PB's deserved the extra attention.
Here are suggestions I have made that still need to be made to Peacebringers/Kheldians (Warshades needing fewer).
1. Make Solar Flare KD. Been stated enough elsewhere. It's just not on par with other PbAOE melee powers.
2. Make Pulsar a guaranteed Mag 3, and possibly shorten the animation as well. I'm not sure why people aren't mentioning this more here, but it is a common complaint in the rest of the forums. Pulsar is far weaker then the Warshade AOE mez power, and it should not be. The two should be roughly balanced.
3. Shorten the shapeshifting animation time. This really prohibits Kheldians from being fun with one of their major mechanics.
4. Improve the Kheldian inherent so it provides a boost while solo. I'm currently working on a proposal for this, but I believe it should happen. Other ATs that gained less use from their inherent while solo have recently been improved (Tankers and Defenders spring to mind), and Kheldians should be included in this.
Arbiter Hawk made an over all post later, saying that the desire for changes to Solar Flare and Pulsar are noted, but he did not want to bring them in at this point because the other changes to them are so significant, and he does not want Peacebringers to become overpowerd.
I and others are more than on the record to say this is not the case. If I ever compare Peacebringers to Warshades or other melee ATs in the future, it's easy to note that the current powers changed are in line with similar Warshade powers, but that Solar Flare and Pulsar are behind what other similar powers can do.
Until Solar Flare and Pulsar are improved, they are sub-par and weakened, meaning that Peacebringers are also lagging behind their Warshade brethren and the melee ATs they are meant to emulate in human form. Pulsar is not worth using in its current form as a crowd control power (unable to reliably mez a lieutenant in a lengthy three second power), and Solar Flare is iffy mitigation that does not allow a Peacebringer to follow up with any of their other attacks.
And... thanks for the compliment, PC Guy.
Zenyth, Light Form has half of the crash it used to have. Half your endurance or health is easily fixed by a Peacebringer's other powers. The power is now awesome and I use it whenever it is up on Test.
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Peacebringers are in far more need of help than Warshades, and the main things Warshades need are being worked on. +def to all from their stealth power, better form shifting to dwarf, and (eventually/hopefully) a faster shifting between forms.
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Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
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I'll miss being a bright little fuzz-ball... That was one of the things I really enjoyed about Light Form... But given everything else? I can deal with it.
Now, if they'll just change that that Solar Flare KB into KD...
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I'd like to ask for them to look at extracted essence. there has been a bug for quite a while now that if you use the power on a dead body and said dead body either disappears or revives, the essence isn't summoned. I can't imagine this is working as intended but if it is, can it not? also i'd be nice if they acted like VS or PA in that they can't be targeted but i can see how that would be a bit OP. any other WS changes that I would want would be coupled with PB changes I.E. reduced form change time and a solo inherent buff.
Also since both PBs and WS's now have a t9 that can be made perma and basically cap resist (or get very close to it) i'd be nice to give the shields a smaller res value and a defense component. possibly mez protection, but if dwarf change time gets reduced along with this current change, then that should solve that problem.
also if CB/DS keeps the same mechanic (different buffs depending on team) can we make it a constant and not a proximity buff?
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
Not fair.
PBs get all kind of buffs and get to swap a LotG caddy for a fun power and we have to try and squeeze in a teleport. Not fair, I say! |
Zenyth, Light Form has half of the crash it used to have. Half your endurance or health is easily fixed by a Peacebringer's other powers. The power is now awesome and I use it whenever it is up on Test. |
We've got too much resist; 52% from light form, 25-30% from our shields, 10% per damage AT in our groups...Ill never come far from the resist cap anymore, and thats while im SOLO. If ever there was a time to change our toggle shields to defense rather than resists (or our inherent to defense rather than resist, I ain't too picky), now would be it.
Or soon, ya know...whatever works for Arbiter Hawk...
I also still think Pulsar or Incandescent strike should switch to the others control type. Either stun/stun, or hold/hold.
Dwarf could also use some debuff resistance...just sayin...and a taunt aura...heck, give em a taunt aura that provides debuff resistance.
EDIT: Oh! Side thought...why not use the new quantum acceleration animation for forms? It seems quick enough, throw the kheld obscurring glow of awesome onto it (keep the shockwave though, the shockwave is awesome) and BAMF! Shapeshift!
Changing toggle shields from resist to defense would be a little overpowered, don't you think? Imagine a perma eclipsed human form warshade with softcapped s/l/e/n defense (and spots for lotg 7.5% recharge IO's in those shields on top of it.) It would be god mode.
I also still think Pulsar or Incandescent strike should switch to the others control type. Either stun/stun, or hold/hold.
Dwarf could also use some debuff resistance...just sayin...and a taunt aura...heck, give em a taunt aura that provides debuff resistance. |
I don't know that we'd see defenses stacking with the huge amount of resists we can get now. Those would get reduced accordingly to balance out, and I don't know that this is better. Your debuff resistance idea would be nice for Dwarf and and the human shields, though.
I don't think Dwarf needs an aura, either. Just an auto-hit taunt would be good. An aura could be overly strong, I would think.
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Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
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So, Warshade's version of Siphon Life, Essence Drain, remains doing low damage with the justification that the archetype isn't a Melee type and the power heals its wielder.
I rather like using Siphon Life on my Dark characters. On my Warshade, it's a severe afterthought... Especially since the pittance of healing it does doesn't justify the mezzing enemies turning toward my Warshade and riddling him full of holes.
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So, Warshade's version of Siphon Life, Essence Drain, remains doing low damage with the justification that the archetype isn't a Melee type and the power heals its wielder.
I rather like using Siphon Life on my Dark characters. On my Warshade, it's a severe afterthought... Especially since the pittance of healing it does doesn't justify the mezzing enemies turning toward my Warshade and riddling him full of holes. |
Agreed, that power is worthless.
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also it doesn't have to be a significant amount of defense. just something that doesn't make those shield redundant. while still keeping the res component of course to stay in line with cottage.
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
...We've got too much resist; 52% from light form, 25-30% from our shields, 10% per damage AT in our groups...Ill never come far from the resist cap anymore, and thats while im SOLO... |
My proposal was a base resitance of 30% to all.
Wow. Thanks devs for actually listening to us and taking the time to fix some of these issues.
One problem though: "Shadow Cloak - This power has been updated to reflect changes to power pool Stealth that have occurred since it was made. It now provides defense to all types of damage, rather than just positional defense, and half of the defense bonus now suppresses while in combat." Shadow Cloak is a copy of Cloak of Darkness (Dark Armor), not of Stealth, and as such its defense values are not supposed to be halved when discovered. It even had a text bug for a while on live where the power description called it Cloak of Darkness.
I'll be submitting a bug report in beta with this info. Would appreciate it if some others would as well so we make sure someone notices the problem.
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As per this thread. A wise Pilgrim told us to be expecting something, but my download is at like, 1% and I must know now.
Please do tell!