Id agree that this seems a bit redundant with SS and MA attacks as they are, so I'm guessing the actual play "mechanic" will have to feel pretty different to work well.
Still, as long as the secondary for crushing uppercut is -res, say 5%/12.5%/20% (or whatever) at various combo levels, I'll probably be happy. For entertainment sake make a CU crit stack double the debuff it otherwise would?
You could gate stackability (is that a word?) of the debuff with the animation times such that even at absurd recharge levels you're not going to get more than 2.
EDIT: Just a thought, shouldn't it be street injustice for redsiders?
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I have. And what I remember being said about that poll was that shield was #1, and Dual Weapons was #2, nothing past that. I do know a realistic fighting set has been requested forever, so much so that players have tried filling that hole with Super strength, DM, and EM. Let's face it, MA just looks fruity like some TKD demonstration, and the punches added were not that impressive. As a RL martial artist, I would like a set that looks like you could actually be fighting with it.| Have you've been here from the beginning, and I mean City of Heroes ONLY BETA beginning? |
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I wish they would just out and tell us the specs of these sets already, arg.
I was already contemplating a WM/SD scrapper. But now I have to think about Street Justice too. And I have a bunch of toons to remake if it ends up being a good set. Basically right now my rotation of FM/Inv Brute, DM/SD scrap, Claws/SR brute, MA/SD scrap is already too much ....
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I wish they would just out and tell us the specs of these sets already, arg.
I was already contemplating a WM/SD scrapper. But now I have to think about Street Justice too. And I have a bunch of toons to remake if it ends up being a good set. Basically right now my rotation of FM/Inv Brute, DM/SD scrap, Claws/SR brute, MA/SD scrap is already too much .... |
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Regardless of whether or not you want a Street Justice Scrapper (and since they are selling this to us for $$ over our subs, I have a feeling we all will want to) I highly recommend you do in fact make a WM/SD.
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I think this set will go with a theme I've had in mind for a long time. I do have a character with a name that I would want to use but hes on a server that I dont play much.
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So anyone going to be remaking characters for this new Street Justice set?
I'm making new ones. I don't think I've ever made a character with the kind of Street Justice theme behind them, so I'm good there. |
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Only been here since about I7 (post-ED) and I can remember the poll, so it wasn't that far back.|
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Have you've been here from the beginning, and I mean City of Heroes ONLY BETA beginning? I don't remeber when the poll took place, but it was before ED, I do know that.
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Regardless, they did have an official, this is what was in First: Shields (explaining why they can't do shields at that time)
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I do remember that Staves has always been popular (I remember that being craved far more than psychic).
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I have. And what I remember being said about that poll was that shield was #1, and Dual Weapons was #2, nothing past that. I do know a realistic fighting set has been requested forever, so much so that players have tried filling that hole with Super strength, DM, and EM. Let's face it, MA just looks fruity like some TKD demonstration, and the punches added were not that impressive. As a RL martial artist, I would like a set that looks like you could actually be fighting with it.
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And what I'm reading about StJ/ makes me hopeful.
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I've had a placeholder character waiting for some kind of street fighting set, but I'm also eyeing the titan weapons set for him - which way he'll go will depend a lot on the full details of how each one turns out (and whichever way he goes, I'll probably make another alt for the set he doesn't choose).|
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So anyone going to be remaking characters for this new Street Justice set?
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I don't think I'd ever re-roll a character for a new set, unless that character had only advanced to level 10 or something. I'd be much more likely to just roll up an alternate version of that character (possibly the same character name on another server). Can't have too many alts!
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Its not that bad quality, I can read it all perfectly.
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Usually I look for the ability to create a new character concept I couldn't create before when I look at a new set. I hope the set is cool, but I am not at all excited about a Street Fighting set because unlike a Staff set or a Psi Weapon set it won't let me create new concepts in the game. I'm not against it, I am just not psyched about it. And if I like this concept I probably have characters who use it already, and I'm not really looking forward to having to reroll mains to take advantage of the set. I really hope, for example, that this isn't a better version of Martial Arts.
Is it just me, or are other people more excited when we get a new secondary for scrappers rather than a primary?
A poll that was put out long before any dev on the current powers team worked on the game probably doesn't hold much weight.
Someone said these will cost extra money, but I was under the impression that new sets and powers came with a subscription.
And just so I don't seem negative, I am looking forward to Heavy Weapons since that will provide the opportunity to create characters with different concepts.
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Well that Fury of the Gladiator -RES proc has been sitting in my tray waiting to go somewhere ... and where better than Crowd Control
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Shatter > Clobber > Jawbreaker
Then use that free spot in Crowd Control for the Force Feedback Proc.
*As a note, I took my WM/SD/ Energy Brute onto test a while ago, and gave him a full top end build with the recharge to run that chain, with the res proc, and T4 Reactive Radial and with 10 Targets in AAO for 240 DPS.
The Scrapper, should be higher (much, much higher).
Not bad for a set with a handful of AoE options.
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I seriously can't wait to make a WM/SD Scrapper! I've had a character name and concept reserved for the day, long before the developers even hinted at the possibility of Power Proliferation!
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In Shatter of course...
Shatter > Clobber > Jawbreaker Then use that free spot in Crowd Control for the Force Feedback Proc. *As a note, I took my WM/SD/ Energy Brute onto test a while ago, and gave him a full top end build with the recharge to run that chain, with the res proc, and T4 Reactive Radial and with 10 Targets in AAO for 240 DPS. The Scrapper, should be higher (much, much higher). Not bad for a set with a handful of AoE options. |
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Woo, another smashing/lethal melee set! Color me excited.
I'll still roll one up though Is there any info that suggests there are new animations for the set? Wouldn't be one bit surprised if the set used recycled animations from MA, SS, EM and DM, sans extraneous effects of course.
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I'd definitely be more excited than for any primary if we got a new secondary, specifically, something that worked mechanically exactly like Shield Defense, and didn't force a shield on your costume nor alternate animations on your character.| Is it just me, or are other people more excited when we get a new secondary for scrappers rather than a primary? |
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Heh, I feel the same way about a theoretical secondary that has the same mechanics as Invulnerable but lets me wear a shield.
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I'd definitely be more excited than for any primary if we got a new secondary, specifically, something that worked mechanically exactly like Shield Defense, and didn't force a shield on your costume nor alternate animations on your character.
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*As a note, I took my WM/SD/ Energy Brute onto test a while ago, and gave him a full top end build with the recharge to run that chain, with the res proc, and T4 Reactive Radial and with 10 Targets in AAO for 240 DPS.
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and thought, "Strong and Pretty, eh?
on a different note, All I have saved from prior powerset posts was a list of potential sets by Posi:
Akimbo Pistols, Demon Summoning, Electric Hammer, Force Control, Magnetic Blast, Magnetism, Psionic Weaponry, Shield Defense, Shield Melee, Street Fighting
How many of those have we gotten so far?
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The only sensible option at this point seems to rework Shield GFX as a low FX secondary and allow the use of a Shield (+ alternate animations for the primary) in the costume creator, with any secondary!
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Gonna have to ask the CoH players that are on the SDCC floor for that one. They've actually played the set, curse them!
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Woo, another smashing/lethal melee set! Color me excited.
I'll still roll one up though Is there any info that suggests there are new animations for the set? Wouldn't be one bit surprised if the set used recycled animations from MA, SS, EM and DM, sans extraneous effects of course. |
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There was Energy Fields as an Armor Set. That was one that I was rooting for, with Shield Defense as my #2 pick for Armor Set. Dual Blades was on the set too, I believe.
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I read this as "As a note, I took my WM/Energy Brute,"
and thought, "Strong and Pretty, eh? on a different note, All I have saved from prior powerset posts was a list of potential sets by Posi: Akimbo Pistols, Demon Summoning, Electric Hammer, Force Control, Magnetic Blast, Magnetism, Psionic Weaponry, Shield Defense, Shield Melee, Street Fighting How many of those have we gotten so far? |
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Going by vague memory, I think that Psi Melee and Dual Pistols were high up there.
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Was that poll archived somewhere? I'd be interested to see what else on it was used to make new sets.
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I'd love to see psi melee.
I know I voted for Psi Melee. Not a fan of weapons really, but yeah, give me psi melee.
Psi Melee was pretty high up there. Wasn't it Giant Growth (or was that an armor set), Dual Blades and Psi Melee?
There was an official post talking about the results, but they didn't really say what was beyond the third position.
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Sigh, another flavor of MA. I'm still awaiting my Staff melee set.
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