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How can you say StJ/EA is endurance heavy with Energize and Energy Drain?
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Originally Posted by War-Nugget
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*** StJ/EA is nice. Endurance heavy, but nice.  Fits my character quite well - concept wise. Sad that there isn't a no fx version of the stealth power. >.> |
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The answer is it isn't. 
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I can't choose between Invul Elec & EA, in no particular order. And maybe Fire, not sure yet.
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I don't know, I was also baffled on how 6.5% DEF through EAbsorb, which you can stack, on a set that can softcap its main typed defenses is "minor"|
Originally Posted by Auroxis
How can you say StJ/EA is endurance heavy with Energize and Energy Drain?
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I'll be using it to get at or near the incarnate softcap, and just on SOs EA does not feel remotely endurance heavy.
No mention of StJ/SR huh? Something needs to be done about that set, and I thought with it being Proliferated over to Brutes and then later to Tanks would help give it some sort of new competitive edge with high end builds. Ice Armor gets a (2.6 Endurance cost) crashless Tier 9 that can be made to have a 1/3rd uptime and Energy Aura gets a bevy of changes that is making it go from an okay set to an awesome set.
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SR is easier to softcap than EA and has less holes, though it doesn't have its endurance management and self heal. As far as SR vs. SD, in this situation the only advantage SR has over SD is recharge, which might be helpful with the top attack chain.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
No mention of StJ/SR huh? Something needs to be done about that set, and I thought with it being Proliferated over to Brutes and then later to Tanks would help give it some sort of new competitive edge with high end builds. Ice Armor gets a (2.6 Endurance cost) crashless Tier 9 that can be made to have a 1/3rd uptime and Energy Aura gets a bevy of changes that is making it go from an okay set to an awesome set.
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You're forgetting the most incredible update for EA - the Recharge Debuff on enemies and scaling Recharge Buff for the player! All of those things combined for Energy Aura is really spectacular! You won't even need a high end build in order to keep Energize permanent with Energy Aura. That's a whopping 100% extra Regeneration and a 59.6% global Endurance Reduction! Permanent! My Elec/Elec/Elec Scrapper has perma-Energize in her build with it enhanced to 217.2% Regen!
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
SR is easier to softcap than EA and has less holes, though it doesn't have its endurance management and self heal. As far as SR vs. SD, in this situation the only advantage SR has over SD is recharge, which might be helpful with the top attack chain.
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It's an inferior recharge buff with only a single target in range, and having multiple targets around you isn't something you can rely upon, especially if you team. That being said, having Energize means you can go for Ageless(Instead of Rebirth) if you need the recharge.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
You're forgetting the most incredible update for EA - the Recharge Debuff on enemies and scaling Recharge Buff for the player! All of those things combined for Energy Aura is really spectacular! You won't even need a high end build in order to keep Energize permanent with Energy Aura. That's a whopping 100% extra Regeneration and a 59.6% global Endurance Reduction! Permanent! My Elec/Elec/Elec Scrapper has perma-Energize in her build with it enhanced to 217.2% Regen!
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Still feels minor to me. The defense portion only goes up to 10 targets, I am gaining about 1% defense per target hit. ::shrug::
My recharge constantly flickers between 212% and 275%. I should have 212% after factoring in target-capped Entropic Aura.
Energize does help, but I still need to hit ED while it is up. I still need to hit ED whenever it is up just to gain endurance.
To me this combo does feel endurance heavy. To you it may not.
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
SR is easier to softcap than EA and has less holes, though it doesn't have its endurance management and self heal. As far as SR vs. SD, in this situation the only advantage SR has over SD is recharge, which might be helpful with the top attack chain.
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
It's an inferior recharge buff with only a single target in range, and having multiple targets around you isn't something you can rely upon, especially if you team. That being said, having Energize means you can go for Ageless(Instead of Rebirth) if you need the recharge.
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Originally Posted by War-Nugget
Still feels minor to me. The defense portion only goes up to 10 targets, I am gaining about 1% defense per target hit. To me it still feels minor ::shrug:: My recharge constantly flickers between 212% and 275%. I should have 212% after factoring in target-capped Entropic Aura. Energize does help, but I still need to hit ED while it is up. I still need to hit ED whenever it is up just to gain endurance. To me this combo does feel endurance heavy. To you it may not. |
On top of this, its part of a power that will fill your END bar.
After playing the StJ/EA and then the Stone/Stone brute I have on live... I changed my mind. Both are endurance heavy in terms of attacking, /EA at least has an endurance heal. :-p
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See now SR would be difficult with StJ in trying to manage endurance, at least until you gain access to Body Mastery (which is what now, 35?). Because there's no safety net, and again, it's not just a problem with StJ but with all fast sets. SR has to be my favorite secondary but lacks any kind of tool to turn the tides when things go bad - making you have to go with First Aid (though if you're going for a 'natural' character concept, it works).
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
SR is easier to softcap than EA and has less holes, though it doesn't have its endurance management and self heal. As far as SR vs. SD, in this situation the only advantage SR has over SD is recharge, which might be helpful with the top attack chain.
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Same for SD, DA and Invuln.|
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See now SR would be difficult with StJ in trying to manage endurance, at least until you gain access to Body Mastery (which is what now, 35?).
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Beta Server is going down in a few, so I am betting it will be today. After some tests today, I am going to go with Invul. It is the only scrapper secondary I have not played from 1-50. I am still deciding if I want to go Brute or Scrapper though.
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Invulnerability is incredible! My preference is to go StJ/Inv for playstyle. |
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Beta Server is going down in a few, so I am betting it will be today. After some tests today, I am going to go with Invul. It is the only scrapper secondary I have not played from 1-50. I am still deciding if I want to go Brute or Scrapper though.
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That's what I was thinking too. I wish the animations with Shield showed in the character creator. Still deciding on Brute vs Scrapper and looking for a concept. My beta SJ/Shield was just the classic Steampunk chick with a round shield with the Gothic design. I'd rather come up with something different though. It's not like I don't have time.|
Originally Posted by Santorican
I'm going StJ/Shield
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I'm thinking if I do Shield it would be better to go Scrapper. Is that the case?
I really like SJ. It's very cool, and I think it will get better the closer it gets to release.
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Yep. StJ having the lowest self damage buffing ability out of all primaries, and doing decent damage despite that, the impact of AaO on that powerset is very significant.
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That's what I thought. That works out fine, I haven't leveled a scrapper in years and it'll be with two sets I've never played: shield and street justice. Sounds like a good plan. Now I just need to come up with an angle.|
Originally Posted by Nihilii
Yep. StJ having the lowest self damage buffing ability out of all primaries, and doing decent damage despite that, the impact of AaO on that powerset is very significant.
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I went through the shields to see if any of them struck a concept in my mind, but nothing has hit me thus far.
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Not familiar with the term. =/
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AaO
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Against all Odds- the Shield Defense Taunt Aura that buffs your damage per enemy in range
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Originally Posted by Stryph
Not familiar with the term. =/
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The animations with a shield are the same as without, except with a shield on the left arm.
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StJ/EA is nice. Endurance heavy, but nice.
Fits my character quite well - concept wise. Sad that there isn't a no fx version of the stealth power. >.>