New set for Scrappers: Street Justice!


Akantor

 

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so... just at a glance, you could do something like:
(C) ->(C) ->(C) => (F)
SB -> RC -> HB => CU
SB -> RC -> HB => SC

Just an alternating chain between the uppercut and sweeping cross, so you can have plenty of -res all around. This would be good for a lower recharge build like a StJ/WP.

I unfortunately don't have the time this morning to crunch out a max chain, though. Freakin work getting in the way of gamez! argh


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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=260718
^Professional Katana/regen build thread

 

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I myself start with Initial Strike > Rib cracker > Shin breaker > Crushing Uppercut. Might not be the best for DPS purposes but it sure makes me feel like a badass - the animation that is anyways.


 

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So far the best I can come up with is:

Shin Breaker-Heavy Blow-Rib Cracker-Shin Breaker-Crushing Uppercut

Purple and Achilles' proc in Shin Breaker. Having 4 builders before CU means that you can afford to miss one attack, and still get the 3 combo. Maybe put RC before HB, depending on the -res duration/attacks connecting.


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Hm can't wait to see the build ideas for this set come around. Just need to find a good /Fire build with soft capped stats that'll synergize well with it. Currently saved that Claws/Elec since I may as well make a StJ/Elec ( LR, Power Sink, and soft capped Res ). Been told by other players the other day that /Fire has a lot of potential to reap a lot of benefit from the set.


 

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Originally Posted by Stryph View Post
and soft capped Res
~does not exist~


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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze View Post
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=260718
^Professional Katana/regen build thread

 

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Wow, those numbers don't look like they need much boosting to me. It already has the two best DPA aoes of any melee primary.


 

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Wow, those numbers don't look like they need much boosting to me. It already has the two best DPA aoes of any melee primary.
Then again, Spinning Strike is a 6ft radius for now.


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That's a trade I'd be willing to make. Less targets for ludicrous damage? You'll still be hitting five or six guys with some regularity (especially on a farm!)


 

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Some proper setup of the mobs and it can still be devastating enough.



I'm curious with a /Fire secondary as something I just thought of. If you go with Reactive from Interface, does that boost the DoT damage you can deliver?


 

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Burn and blazing aura deliver reactive procs, if that's what you mean, yes. /Fire doesn't make reactive better though, it gets the same benefit as any other set. Arguably more than any other set since you get two (or three, heh) aoe attacks with which to be proccing. So yes, SJ/FA looks like a beast of an aoer.


 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
Burn and blazing aura deliver reactive procs, if that's what you mean, yes. /Fire doesn't make reactive better though, it gets the same benefit as any other set. Arguably more than any other set since you get two (or three, heh) aoe attacks with which to be proccing. So yes, SJ/FA looks like a beast of an aoer.
With no taunt aura you'll have to kill on the alpha strike or everything will run all over the map.


Moonlighter

50s include MA/SD, MA/SR, DP/Elec, Claw/Inv, Kat/Dark, Kat/Fire, Spine/Regen, Dark/SD

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Assuming the numbers above, and that arcanatime is baked in, and an average build, and a partridge in a pair tree.

I came up with 135 raw dps, and 165 after crits, Combat Readiness, Rib Cracker, and Shin Breaker with achilles. With some procs It could get up to 145 raw or 175 all the goodies. That'd put it neither best nor worst. Call it the Dual Pistols of scrappers, great utility but average damage ?

It's all just speculation till it goes live, I get better info, and in-game experience.


 

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Originally Posted by Linea_Alba View Post
Assuming the numbers above, and that arcanatime is baked in, and an average build, and a partridge in a pair tree.

I came up with 135 raw dps, and 165 after crits, Combat Readiness, Rib Cracker, and Shin Breaker with achilles. With some procs It could get up to 145 raw or 175 all the goodies. That'd put it neither best nor worst. Call it the Dual Pistols of scrappers, great utility but average damage ?

It's all just speculation till it goes live, I get better info, and in-game experience.
The numbers I posted already include crits. I would hold on comparing the DPS to other sets, as the numbers have a lot of time to change and balance is usually the last thing on the list. With my calculations, the DPS looks quite solid considering it's smashing type and includes debuffs+a nice hold in the uppercut.


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Just waiting for the server to go live.


 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNiP-...=youtube_gdata

It's being processed. I just did a quick-ee and don't feel like doing a full tutorial do to being only level 8.

EDIT: Also, check back shortly while it processes. Be patient. EDIT2: Voila, video is up and in HD!
Is there a low/no effects option for these animations? I don't want bright or dark flashes, I just want to hit things.


 

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Just a quick question, are those numbers base? If so, those are MAD! For instance, crushing uppercut would deal more damage the headsplitter even without combo points, and at tier three would deal quite a bit more. For instance, if those slots are base CR+slotting would make CU deal 723 damage (just imagine if CR was the full 100%). Add FE from /fire, and you have around 1000. Add -resists and you can imagine what a full power crit could do.


TW/Elec Optimization

 

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Originally Posted by Combat View Post
Just a quick question, are those numbers base? If so, those are MAD! For instance, crushing uppercut would deal more damage the headsplitter even without combo points, and at tier three would deal quite a bit more. For instance, if those slots are base CR+slotting would make CU deal 723 damage (just imagine if CR was the full 100%). Add FE from /fire, and you have around 1000. Add -resists and you can imagine what a full power crit could do.
Yep, base numbers with crits. Keep in mind CU has a hefty recharge timer compared to the other tier 9's, so while it does more damage it would take a ton of recharge to fit it into a small attack chain. Think of Knockout Blow, except with more base damage to compensate for the lack or rage.


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Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster

 

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CU reminds me of Concentrated Strike with a faster animation time. So yeah it's pretty slow, kind of tricky to get it to mesh properly.


 

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This sounds like a Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat/Tekken styled Hero/Villain would be using this. Looks like a cool set.


 

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They should just call it Street Fighting
or Street Fighter II Turbo


 

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Well, if those are base, CU is my new favorite power. Sure, you won't use it all that often. But when you do, things die. With a 25 second recharge, the "average" I would aim for would be about 8 seconds without spiritual, a little less with. That would be about once every 2 chains of your builders, so I see a top-end chain being RB-SB-HB-SC-RB-SB-HB-CU. It would take a fair amount of recharge, but use all 3 -res powers (counting the 2 procs). I really am looking forward to running a StJ/FA for the extra damage goodness.


TW/Elec Optimization

 

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Originally Posted by Combat View Post
Well, if those are base, CU is my new favorite power. Sure, you won't use it all that often. But when you do, things die. With a 25 second recharge, the "average" I would aim for would be about 8 seconds without spiritual, a little less with. That would be about once every 2 chains of your builders, so I see a top-end chain being RB-SB-HB-SC-RB-SB-HB-CU. It would take a fair amount of recharge, but use all 3 -res powers (counting the 2 procs). I really am looking forward to running a StJ/FA for the extra damage goodness.
That's pretty much what I had in mind for an average build(expensive pvp proc aside).

I've been trying to make the SB-HB-RC-SB-CU chain work without spiritual, but at the moment I only think it's viable on SR and EA with a top-end build.

The biggest thing though is how poorly Combat Readiness fits into an attack chain. Its damage effect is quite weak, and there's no point in the +3 during an attack chain as CU won't be up. It's only good when charging into mobs or when you want to AoE stuff after CU.


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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
That's a trade I'd be willing to make. Less targets for ludicrous damage? You'll still be hitting five or six guys with some regularity (especially on a farm!)
Who cares? For the majority of PvE thats tiny, and losing access to the Armageddon Purple set is upsetting.

Make it a damn PBAoE with a 10ft Radius!


 

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Make it a damn PBAoE with a 10ft Radius!
Hell, keep the radious but make it a PBAoE at least.


 

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So, when this does hit the live servers - what Power Sets are you going to be pairing with Street Justice?

For me, I'll be remaking an MA/SD I have into StJ/SD and a new StJ/Inv character. I thought about making a StJ/Willpower, and still might sometime in the future but for now I think those two will do just fine.


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