i20.5: Astral/Empyreal cost to unlock everything


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I was looking for this info and couldn't find it, so I gathered it myself on the Test server and here it is for anyone who may be wondering:

  • Ascension Set: 7 items @ 10 Astrals or 3 Empyreals. 70 Astrals or 21 Empyreals.
  • Ascension Radiance Set: 6 items @ 6 Empyreals. 36 Empyreals.
  • Auras: 8 items @ 10 Astrals or 2 Empyreals. 80 Astrals or 16 Empyreals.
  • Trail Auras: 6 items @ 3 Empyreals. 18 Empyreals.
  • Chest Emblems: 15 items @ 1 Astral each. 15 Astrals.
  • Emotes: 4 items @ 10 Astrals or 2 Empyreals. 40 Astrals or 8 Empyreals.
  • Costume Change Emotes: 5 items @ 3 Empyreals. 15 Empyreals.

In order to unlock everything, you have to spend one of the following:
  • 205 Astrals + 69 Empyreals.
  • 195 Astrals + 71 Empyreals.
  • 185 Astrals + 73 Empyreals.
  • 175 Astrals + 75 Empyreals.
  • 165 Astrals + 77 Empyreals.
  • 155 Astrals + 79 Empyreals.
  • 145 Astrals + 81 Empyreals.
  • 135 Astrals + 83 Empyreals.
  • 125 Astrals + 85 Empyreals.
  • 115 Astrals + 87 Empyreals.
  • 105 Astrals + 89 Empyreals.
  • 95 Astrals + 91 Empyreals.
  • 85 Astrals + 93 Empyreals.
  • 75 Astrals + 96 Empyreals.
  • 65 Astrals + 99 Empyreals.
  • 55 Astrals + 102 Empyreals.
  • 45 Astrals + 105 Empyreals.
  • 35 Astrals + 108 Empyreals.
  • 25 Astrals + 111 Empyreals.
  • 15 Astrals + 114 Empyreals.


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Those are all global unlocks, right? Nothing on that list is per-character?


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Originally Posted by Leandro View Post
I was looking for this info and couldn't find it, so I gathered it myself on the Test server and here it is for anyone who may be wondering.
I made a similar post on Monday:
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*Nothing converts to Empyrean Merits and the only thing that converts to Astral Merits are Empyrean Merits. So there aren't any ways, other than the trials, to get any of the following:
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Astral and Empyrean Merit Costs
  • Alpha Slot, Cape, and Aura Unlock Vouchers are now 5 Astrals apiece.
  • Chest Emblems are now all 1 Astral apiece.
  • Ascension Armor pieces are all now 10 Astrals or 3 Empyreans apiece.
  • Ascension Radiance Armor pieces are all now 6 Empyreans apiece.
  • Emotes are now all 10 Astrals or 2 Empyreans apiece.
  • Costume Change Emotes are now all 3 Empyreans apiece.
  • Auras are now all 10 Astrals or 2 Empyreans apiece.
  • Path Auras are now all 3 Empyreans apiece.
  • The Incarnate Thread Voucher for 1 Astral now grants 4 Threads when claimed.
  • The Incarnate Thread Voucher for 1 Empyrean now grants 18 Threads when claimed.
Ascension for 10 Astral Merits x 7 items. 70 Astral Merits.
Radiance for 6 Empyrean Merits x 6 items. 36 Empyrean Merits.
Emotes for 10 Astral Merits x 4 items. 40 Astral Merits.
Emblems 1 Astral Merits x 16 items. 16 Astral Merits.
Costume Change Emotes for 3 Empyrean Merits x 5 items. Empyrean Merits.
Auras for 10 Astral Merits x 8 items. 80 Astral Merits.
Path Auras for 3 Empyrean Merits x 6 items. Empyrean Merits.

This works out to 206 Astral Merits, 69 Empyrean Merits for everything without overlapping (ie. buying anything that uses Astral Merits with Astrals, and only buying stuff that costs Empyrean Merits that are exclusive to Empyrean Merits). By the way, at 3 merits/trial (which is what Lambda is giving out these days thanks to the bull-headed design choices) this works out to 69 Lambdas, run once per day.
Hmm. I seem to have 1 more emblem than you do. You might have missed one.

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Those are all global unlocks, right? Nothing on that list is per-character?
Yes, all global unlocks.




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Since these are global unlocks you can split the work through multiple characters.


So you can have 3 incarnates, each doing 3 trials per day, and that will get you all of the items in less than 13 days.


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Happy with the prices. Saved up all I need for the Ascension Radiance Set/Normal Radiance Set/Rainbow Path Aura/2 of the emotes/Nuke Costume change :P


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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
Since these are global unlocks you can split the work through multiple characters.

So you can have 3 incarnates, each doing 3 trials per day, and that will get you all of the items in less than 13 days.
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Happy with the prices. Saved up all I need for the Ascension Radiance Set/Normal Radiance Set/Rainbow Path Aura/2 of the emotes/Nuke Costume change :P
I know there are plenty of people who are trying to argue that costs like these are too high. But honestly anything in an MMO that's considered to be "end game content" that you can finish earning as quickly as 13 days (or even say in like 45+ days if you are semi-causal about it) seems completely reasonable to me. *shrugs*


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
I know there are plenty of people who are trying to argue that costs like these are too high. But honestly anything in an MMO that's considered to be "end game content" that you can finish earning as quickly as 13 days (or even say in like 45+ days if you are semi-causal about it) seems completely reasonable to me. *shrugs*
Yep. I've been casually saving up for all the stuff I want on one of my t4-ed mains for the past month. I even have extra astrals to buy things I don't want (think I've used a chest emblem on one toon total out of all of mine).


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After some more calculations it looks like you can get it in about a week with 9 trials per day. And if you really really want to get it you can get it all as soon as 2 days if you have several characters grinding out the trials throughout the day, which seems like something you could fit in a weekend.


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I foresee a hideous amount of grinding to unlock this stuff, as I want all of the costumes/auras/etc.


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I foresee a hideous amount of grinding to unlock this stuff, as I want all of the costumes/auras/etc.
Just play at your own pace and you'll get them - there's no rush


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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant View Post
I foresee a hideous amount of grinding to unlock this stuff, as I want all of the costumes/auras/etc.
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Don't grind the trials if you don't want to. And while different people have different standards as to what a grind is, I'd just typically suggest folks not do more than 1/each trial a day. If you want to plow through multiple BAFs/whatever, go for it, just don't do the trial more than once a play session if you don't enjoy the content that much. Burn out is bad.

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And it's a difference of one chest emblem Snow Globe .


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Originally Posted by Leandro View Post
  • Auras: 8 items @ 10 Astrals or 3 Empyreals. 80 Astrals or 16 Empyreals.
Auras are 2 Emps each, not 3 (though you have the total right)


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sweet! thanks for this guide.


 

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Can we PLEASE convert Threads & Salvage back into A&E Merits?


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Originally Posted by Leandro View Post
I was looking for this info and couldn't find it, so I gathered it myself on the Test server and here it is for anyone who may be wondering:
  • Ascension Set: 7 items @ 10 Astrals or 3 Empyreals. 70 Astrals or 21 Empyreals.
  • Ascension Radiance Set: 6 items @ 6 Empyreals. 36 Empyreals.
  • Auras: 8 items @ 10 Astrals or 3 Empyreals. 80 Astrals or 16 Empyreals.
  • Trail Auras: 6 items @ 3 Empyreals. 18 Empyreals.
  • Chest Emblems: 15 items @ 1 Astral each. 15 Astrals.
  • Emotes: 4 items @ 10 Astrals or 2 Empyreals. 40 Astrals or 8 Empyreals.
  • Costume Change Emotes: 5 items @ 3 Empyreals. 15 Empyreals.

In order to unlock everything, you have to spend one of the following:
  • 205 Astrals + 69 Empyreals.
  • 195 Astrals + 71 Empyreals.
  • 185 Astrals + 73 Empyreals.
  • 175 Astrals + 75 Empyreals.
  • 165 Astrals + 77 Empyreals.
  • 155 Astrals + 79 Empyreals.
  • 145 Astrals + 81 Empyreals.
  • 135 Astrals + 83 Empyreals.
  • 125 Astrals + 85 Empyreals.
  • 115 Astrals + 87 Empyreals.
  • 105 Astrals + 89 Empyreals.
  • 95 Astrals + 91 Empyreals.
  • 85 Astrals + 93 Empyreals.
  • 75 Astrals + 96 Empyreals.
  • 65 Astrals + 99 Empyreals.
  • 55 Astrals + 102 Empyreals.
  • 45 Astrals + 105 Empyreals.
  • 35 Astrals + 108 Empyreals.
  • 25 Astrals + 111 Empyreals.
  • 15 Astrals + 114 Empyreals.
For nothing that boosts my game play, but just makes me look cool. The trials are grindy enough as is so I'm passing on these.


 

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In order to unlock everything
But do you really need to?

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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
For nothing that boosts my game play, but just makes me look cool. The trials are grindy enough as is so I'm passing on these.
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but do you really need to?
yesh!


 

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For those who have purchased these on Test, can you answer if when you make a purchase, does that item you purchased get removed from the list? That way you know you've unlocked it?

I could see this being a pain if you're playing multiple characters and buying things from multiple characters.


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i think a lot of these things are still hideously overpriced, but since they are a 1 time unlock its not *that* bad

i agree with others in the thread that this will just promote the already awful incarnate grind, however at least it gives me more of a reason to run trials in the first place which may make it feel less grindy since i have more of a reason to run them...


 

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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
I know there are plenty of people who are trying to argue that costs like these are too high. But honestly anything in an MMO that's considered to be "end game content" that you can finish earning as quickly as 13 days (or even say in like 45+ days if you are semi-causal about it) seems completely reasonable to me. *shrugs*
Pardon my ignorance, but since when are emotes considered to be end game content?


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Pardon my ignorance, but since when are emotes considered to be end game content?
i have to agree with this, but the ONLY thing on that list that i would consider end game content is the ascension armor/ascension radiance costume sets

everything else on the list is just a standard costume piece/emote/ect that anyone should be able to unlock through something lower lvl (ie the normal aura mish)


 

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I think the costs are fine. I am willing to bet at least a few of those will end up in the Paragon Market too.

I agree some of the emotes, chest emblems, and Costume Changes just don't fit there. The rest, I am fine with.


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For those who have purchased these on Test, can you answer if when you make a purchase, does that item you purchased get removed from the list? That way you know you've unlocked it?
Yes, for global unlocks, the item gets removed from the list after you buy it. You will then get certificate. The first time you select a certificate you can ask for a refund. If you claim the certificate, then the option to refund the item isn't available any more. On subsequent characters if you accidentally delete the certificate before claiming it, it will re-appear in the certificate list to be claimed.




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Pardon my ignorance, but since when are emotes considered to be end game content?
Not sure about "end game content", but Swoon and Collapse are pretty epic.


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