Conversation Between Marketing Drones

You have to wonder if all the ones so adamant about complaining about the complainers were to avoid the threads that bother them so much if those threads would be getting so large.

As it is we have a portion of the forum upset over certain issues and the other half of the forum getting sick of hearing about it. I say, quit antagonizing them if you want it to stop.

If every thread on the subject was nothing but the same few posters all high fiving each other for being in complete agreement... The thread wouldn't last that long.

Then you have to add your voice to the chorus which in turn invites them to try and hammer their point home even further, dragging out the same reasons back and forth ad naseum.

If you don't like the thread, don't read it. There is no need to fan the flames after your intital /disagree post.


*This isn't singling anyone particular out, just a trend I'm seeing.

I found Gale's post slightly closer to the truth but both gave me a chuckle.

There is not much I can say about the trials other than I refuse to do them. If I want to play 'end-game' ill go play WoW and, due to all the years i've played MMO's, thats no longer what I want. But, even with my uninspired opinion on 'trials' I find it disheartening that the Devs gave the players a generic 'end-game' system that exists in nearly every other MMO yet wasn't received as well. It's strange really. People are fickle.

Perhaps after the 'Omega' trial we can hopefully see old content revamped. The Devs HATE visiting old content. H.A.T.E. This can go back to the 'cottage rule' , the Shadow Shard, reviewing old powersets, revemping old mission content etc etc etc. They simply don't want to do it. I think that if they did revamp this older content we'd see less farmers (thus more people playing in other zones thus more vitality and easier team building), less boredom from older, experienced players and possibly a better reason for people to return to city of heroes.

'end-game' isn't very appealing after the first 'instance' or 'trial' or 'raid' because the rest after that are essentially the same. This game's combat and overall engine hasn't aged well and isn't very flexible unless your very savvy with it (luckily our devs are!), so these 'trials' are all going to work and operate the same anyway.

Wow, humour's clearly become a serious business around these parts for some folk.

Um, you folks DO realize that I haven't played a single Trial yet, right? I don't have a 50th level character so I haven't experience one with the Incarnate content. I haven't unlocked an Alpha Slot... I wouldn't know an Alpha Slot if it walked up, cocked a leg on my shoe and howled in victory over the fact.

I'm not normally in the habit of defending my posts because I so very rarely try to make a point with them or I just bury my point in a deep pile of subtle or irony.

But, since everyone seems to be polarizing over this little "comedic" playlet, I'll give 'er a go.

1) I did NOT mock the Incarnate Trials or System. I have not actually played any of it, so I don't feel qualified to make judgments or accusations about it.

2) This was NOT a negative post. People, the gaming industry is a BUSINESS. Their primary objective is to stay alive in a highly competitive field. Yes, I believe that some of their marketing people had a similar discussion to what I wrote, but I don't necessarily think that is a BAD thing. If it keeps the game I love around a little longer, then I am all for it.

3) I am at least 90% grinder. The guy I described playing the same room of an RPG for months and months in order to get the main character from 10th to 83rd level early in the game was ME. I've done this many times. Heck, I even do this to some extent with CoH. With all the times I've restarted my tournament I've practically memorized early content. So, when I say the marketing team has targeted grinders it's with some pride... I rarely get that kind of attention from game designers.

4) When I wrote the post it was more in the nature of "Why would the marketing department choose this strategy for keeping players?" than "I hate the Incarnate System and want to write an inflamatory post about it." Like I said... I haven't played the Incarnate stuff yet, though with a 42nd level character I'm closing in on it. I would suggest that perhaps some of you (not all) have been projecting your own feelings about the system into what I wrote.

Now, if you'll excuse me I need to go take a shower. I HATE the oily, itchy feeling I get from being neck-deep in a serious post.

And you say I go off on tangents. The only majority I talked about was the majority of people that don't use the forums. I'm not sure where the rest of that tangent came from; it certainly wasn't from anything I wrote.

Also, I'm not sure what Incarnate system you're using that has anything to do with the Markets or Merits; it's certainly not the one I've seen. I used Markets and Merits to get some nice Inventions, though. That was cool.