Sucker Punch

According to his IMDB page there's just Survival of the Dead after Diary that's out right now.

He's maaaagic!

Knew it started with an S. Thought it was Society of the Dead or something.

I'm someone who has seen the movie and I disagree completely, and just because you agree doesn't mean that he understands anything except your opinion.

Just for the sake of everyone in this thread who doesn't seem to already know this:

Some people like some things that other people don't like. Your liking or not liking it doesn't hold any more weight than someone else's liking or not liking it, so get over yourself.

And no, I don't care how much you've heard about a movie from other sources, I will never give your opinion of the thing any credit whatsoever if you haven't actually seen it.

You Ironik, our disagreements are long standing, since pretty much the beginning. Happy Anniversary, buddy (give or take a couple of weeks)!

Doesn't work that way. Nevermind that most of the "professional" reviewers have more than likely seen just as much of Sucker Punch as you have.

Don't have to be reasoned with when we're right. It was derivative, pointless garbage.

They ALL float down here. When you're down here with us, you'll float too!

@Starflier

I actually wonder on this myself.

Reading some of the reviews, I couldn't help but wonder if they actually watched the movie.

It's one thing to not like the movie and have problems with it. But some of those professional reviews seemed to say things about the movie that just didn't happen in the movie or weren't paying attention and then didn't understand it.

This.

Go see the movie, then come back and discuss its merits or lack thereof. If you don't go see it, you're basing your opinion off of A) someone else who has seen it who's viewing it with a different filter than you, or B) someone else who hasn't seen it either. There is no other option that suddenly gives your voice weight. It doesn't matter if you've agreed with everything the critic has ever said about anything.

Big hug!

Awww....noooo...you'll gut punch me, again.

Nope. He's nicking yer wallet.

Derivative, sure; pointless, no; garbage, no.

But you miss out on some good movies with that thinking.

Like, Pay it Forward! The Crow! Iron Giant! All have sad endings!

Which is why I haven't seen them, and yet I feel no sense of loss at "missing out".

That's right, I have magic moviegoing vision that allows me to see through crappy knock-offs. This is my gift, my curse.

Oh, it works just fine for these limited purposes since, as I've said, the Brazil "inspiration" is obvious.

Just to establish this venue, we're discussing this movie on a web forum, not writing professional reviews for an actual publication. There are bigger issues going on in Sucker Punch, however, than Snyder's lack of anxiety of influence that people are discussing elsewhere but that I haven't yet formed an opinion about and am unlikely to do so without seeing the "hot mess" itself. I anticipate liking it even less than his Dawn of the Dead or Watchmen adaptations, which is saying something.

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Then by no means see the film...however she was being lobotomized over money(a will) and not a mental condition. She was tramatized by the death of her sister at the hands of her evil step-dad and sent to the institution...a bribe was paid for the procedure to be done before the police could question her! The end of the film made sense to me...there was more to it than a lobotomization. I do however understand your situation(some what) from your writings and would recommend you pass on the film and maybe the thread.

I thought the film was a solid c+ with its mix and match artistic touches. I loved that each girl had a speciality weapon(katana, tomahawk, flitlock, broadsword). The baddies looked great espically the steampunk nazis's. Now the some of the lines in the film were just damn funny...my friends and I laughed at several...we chatted after the movie and weren't sure if they were meant to be or not as we were the only ones laughing. The WWI scene was worth the price of the flick for me

The willingness of one to sacrifice everything for someone else no matter the personal cost can be inspiring for some! But to each his/her won...cheers!

If you haven't seen The Iron Giant then you're missing out on a fantastic movie.

True. Technically there is. But I was sure they meant the main character being lobotomized is the sad ending.

'We are who we choose to be.'

"Superman."

That scene always gets me! How could anyone miss out on this movie? :O

I think it's all in the execution. A sad ending can be really, really good, but like you said, it has to be done right. A poorly executed "sad" ending generally just feels hamfisted and is usually worse than a cliche happily-ever-after sort of affair. It's also, I think, harder to do correctly (or perhaps just not as commonly appropriate).

So I think it's less about people's reluctance to accept them and more about the rarity with which they're pulled off at an acceptable level.

That's speaking generally, though, without regard for this specific movie (which I haven't seen, and based on sentiments expressed in this topic and elsewhere, don't expect to see at this point, and hence, won't comment on the specific execution of the ending).

I'm not completely averse to the tragic endings. I went out of my way to see Last Samurai knowing full well how the final battle would turn out. Historical and cultural inconsistency nit-picking aside, a great movie with a tragic ending.

However Sucker Punch has completely lost any appeal it had garnered with the trailers.