I feel bad for Statesman...
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-01-02 18:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Actually, with the whole Bromance discussion, this was the first thing that came to mind...
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I was with you on this and agree. However...|
Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
Faultline appears to be in a happy relationship with Fusionette.
Statesman was married to a woman and had a biological daughter, presumably in the usual fashion. It is within the realm of possibility that these characters are closeted gay, or bisexual. But the preponderance of evidence would lead me to believe that they are both straight. Whenever the issue comes up in canon - and it does - they behave as if they are. So it's not entirely fair to argue from the stance that there's no evidence either way. |
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| Crimson and Viridian, on the other hand, is a crack pairing I can get behind. |
We need a crack pairings thread.
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Originally Posted by RadDidIt
As Marcian, General Knowledge, Blood Spectre, and Westley will attest... my masculinity is never threatened by such things. Period. You truly have no idea; however, your sentiment is understandable since you don't know me very well.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
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He's been crammed down our throats as "the" hero of the CoX universe since release. We've been told and shown repeatedly that our characters will never be as cool as him and his friends. Meanwhile, he's just not that interesting of a character. He's a one-dimensional extension of his creator's ego. Is it any wonder he's the butt of so many jokes? Or that people enjoy beating the snot out of him so much?
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Originally Posted by SuperOz
For my two influence, Statesman is the heroic ideal and I actually see him as somewhat cursed by the power that he was given by the Well. I thought the rationale that he could give into the power but chooses to restrain himself says a tremendous amount about the man's character. I'd like to see more fiction and MA stories that reflect this Statesman and the heroic Statesman than the excuse for a joke and figure for slashfiction that he's become.
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I think it'd be really cool if one of the tutorial mission involved Statesman saving you. That way, when you save him at level 50, it carries much more meaning for the individual player.
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(tinfoil hat) Or 1,000 heroes were willing to suffer 80% casualties in the last, best hope to free Earth from Statesman because they hoped he could be goaded into taking the alpha for everyone and therefore overwhelming even his defenses. They failed. (/tinfoil hat)
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Originally Posted by Melancton
You are correct: Statesman is pretty much a jerk in the comics elsewhere, while in the backstory to the game, he is an inspirational and selfless leader. In the backstory, 1,000 heroes willingly follow Statesman to almost certain death (800 die) in the Alpha Gambit so that the Omega Team could enter the portals and disable them.
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oh cool, another fan of sinfest.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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You know, when I first made this thread, I would of never thought it would transform into a homosexual shipping discussion, like, wasn't it originally about how Statesman's meeting is teh sux0rz? Then Niklarus mentioned he is like Fusionette, then GG, with her evil GG powers, mutated the thread into what it is now, bringing her 1 step closer to bringing down everyone's favorite Emperor. Which, will actually be in the season finale of the Praetorian TV Show, Everybody Loves Cole. And it's Resistance equivalent, Everybody Hates Cole, which is all about Cole's life as a child and what it was like when he was living in Bed Stuy.
Everrrrrryyyyybodyyyyyyy Haaaaaaaatessssss Collllllllllleeee
Heeeeeeeey! Little Emperor from across the street, let me hold an inf.
Wait... I forgot what I was talking about... 
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This is where something more interesting than my global and this sentence would be.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I think it'd be really cool if one of the tutorial mission involved Statesman saving you. That way, when you save him at level 50, it carries much more meaning for the individual player.
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I always wanted that, too; or, at least, some sort of signature hero (maybe Synapse). But, now that the OTHER GAME has that as its intro mish... well.
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You colonize fanfiction and fanideas? You believe that it is your burden to impose yourself upon them and bring your morals and technology to them? Tell them that they're writing the wrong way and introduce a new form of writing for them to use that isn't sustainable?|
Originally Posted by RadDidIt
I'm merely an imperialist when it comes to fanfiction and fanideas;
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Or are you an empiricalist?
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Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
You colonize fanfiction and fanideas? You believe that it is your burden to impose yourself upon them and bring your morals and technology to them? Tell them that they're writing the wrong way and introduce a new form of writing for them to use that isn't sustainable?
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Yes.
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This conspiracy was amusingly put.|
Originally Posted by Miuramir
(tinfoil hat) Or 1,000 heroes were willing to suffer 80% casualties in the last, best hope to free Earth from Statesman because they hoped he could be goaded into taking the alpha for everyone and therefore overwhelming even his defenses. They failed. (/tinfoil hat)
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*whispers to nurse*: Haldol, stat.
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Raging man-love?
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Originally Posted by Impervious Fist
Wait... I forgot what I was talking about...
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@Golden Girl
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Be careful. Later I ship Fusionette finding comfort in the arms of Vanessa DeVore. The harbor holds ships of all kinds.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Raging man-love?
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Except tug boats. Chris Hanson has no cause for concern.
But Vanessa DeVore doesn't rock the VanDyke.
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Sweeeeet. Time for teh yuri!
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Be careful. Later I ship Fusionette finding comfort in the arms of Vanessa DeVore. The harbor holds ships of all kinds.
Except tug boats. Chris Hanson has no cause for concern. |
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Originally Posted by SpittingTrashcan
Crimson and Viridian, on the other hand, is a crack pairing I can get behind.
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@Golden Girl
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Now that was the funniest thing yet.|
Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
 Baby Statesline |
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Originally Posted by Grouchybeast
I think they're cute, and I like how they grow in power through the story lines. I'll always go out of my way to do their acrs. I especially love the mission where they're sending one another tells.
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A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
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fixed, seriously, that is how it works. assuming that lack of evidence indicates a falsehood is a example of a fairly basic logical fallacy called denying the antecedant. if x then y, not x therefore not y. this is the origin of a great deal of poorly though out positions across a number of disciplines, but it is wrong, and promoting it is to promote poorly compsed logic. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/denyante.html
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Originally Posted by RadDidIt
Marcian, the ole "no evidence to the contrary means it could be true" is correctly applied logic.
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well, except in this case, there is evidence to the contrary. Namely Faultline's relationship with Fusionette, and that States has been married (to a woman) and spawned progeny. Sure, they *could* be on the DL, as the kids say, but lacking evidence of that, I'm gonna go with the position that *does* have evidence.
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Fun fact: The AV Crimson and Viridian are palette swaps of the same model.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
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So its this come kind of self-cest?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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1) As I stated before: How does proving that they like women prove that they don't like men? I could google the word Bisexual for you, but I'm at work and like employment.|
Originally Posted by Furio
well, except in this case, there is evidence to the contrary. Namely Faultline's relationship with Fusionette, and that States has been married (to a woman) and spawned progeny. Sure, they *could* be on the DL, as the kids say, but lacking evidence of that, I'm gonna go with the position that *does* have evidence.
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2) How are you taking this thread seriously?
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That they're both bi-curious?
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Originally Posted by Furio
I'm gonna go with the position that *does* have evidence.
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@Golden Girl
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
1) As I stated before: How does proving that they like women prove that they don't like men? I could google the word Bisexual for you, but I'm at work and like employment.
2) How are you taking this thread seriously? |
It doesn't (i think I covered that...that's what "on the DL" means), and I'm not. But just playing the numbers, odds would be they're straight as opposed to bi.
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