I feel bad for Statesman...
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-01-02 18:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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That's coincidental. They're on Pinnacle with me. I've teamed with them and spoken to them on vent many times. Small world/server.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
They are real life players of the game. EnnVee and Baron Overlord.
Thread came back up so I needed to add some pictures so I recycled some photos from anther thread. |
Even though myself and a couple of other people (we know who we are) have posted with our support for the character of Statesman, I'll simply reiterate my support for those who have posted recently in this thread with the same purpose.
I dunno, maybe we live in a cynical age where the term 'hero' has been largely deconstructed and people think you need to skirt the edge of the law like Chris Nolan's Batman or kill 'just bad people' like tv's Dexter to be deemed a hero. Or maybe people think characters like Statesman are two-dimensional and not 'realistic' enough for their tastes (in a genre which is dealing in pretty much blatant unrealistic situations) and therefore are fair game for mockery or whatever.
I don't take any of the slashfic pairings in this thread too seriously, because they inevitably lose steam or the novelty factor wears off. Heroism, on the other hand...never really goes out of style.
I'll keep backing the big man on that score every day. 
S.
Part of Sister Flame's Clickey-Clack Posse
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I like Superman but I hate Statesman. I don't think it has nearly as much to do with his ideals and standards as it has to do with his portrayal. Go talk to him about Incarnates and he just talks down to you. Rescue him from Tyrant and he just goes around stealing the glory. For a very long time, he has been presented as an unmatchable power that we, the players, must always stay below - and that might be the worst offence of all. |
Originally Posted by SuperOz
I dunno, maybe we live in a cynical age where the term 'hero' has been largely deconstructed and people think you need to skirt the edge of the law like Chris Nolan's Batman or kill 'just bad people' like tv's Dexter to be deemed a hero.
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And, of course, there's the association of Statesman the character with Statesman the developer, who is oft-reviled around here. That can't help either. Plus, we keep having more and more Marcus Coles shoved in our faces as great powers, and always as great powers we must "team up" against - as if Marcus Cole is some inviolate pinnacle that can never be matched no matter what we do.
The game would honestly be much better if Statesman and Recluse were just to kill one another, and the player characters forced into the limelight more because their respective factions now have no one else to turn to.
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i agree with a lot of this lol, i honestly dislike statesman and think we need to have some alternate dimensions where recluse came out on top and there was no marcus cole or marcus cole got killed, like opposite of what happened in praetoria|
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
I like Superman but I hate Statesman. I don't think it has nearly as much to do with his ideals and standards as it has to do with his portrayal. Go talk to him about Incarnates and he just talks down to you. Rescue him from Tyrant and he just goes around stealing the glory. For a very long time, he has been presented as an unmatchable power that we, the players, must always stay below - and that might be the worst offence of all.
And, of course, there's the association of Statesman the character with Statesman the developer, who is oft-reviled around here. That can't help either. Plus, we keep having more and more Marcus Coles shoved in our faces as great powers, and always as great powers we must "team up" against - as if Marcus Cole is some inviolate pinnacle that can never be matched no matter what we do. The game would honestly be much better if Statesman and Recluse were just to kill one another, and the player characters forced into the limelight more because their respective factions now have no one else to turn to. |
recluse i think is awesome, but im also a villain by heart lol
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Both those models are quite hard - the Clockwork King uses a lot of unique angles and shapes, and Mother Mayhem's boots and and top are also pretty unique with the way they're cut.|
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Since this thread is A) too awesome to die and B) I just went through a Lady Grey TF and people were talking about "Pedojar" and such so...
GG, can you fix me a Mother Mayhem/Clockwork King picture?  |
Plus, slashpics are hotter when they're same-gender pairings - and just based on the in-game stuff, Mother Mayhem is so not into boys
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Clearly we need Mother/Beholder slashpics. Or Mother/Vanessa.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Mother Mayhem is so not into boys
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Or Mother/Penelope, or Mother/Kaite, or Mother/Seer 0511, or Mother/Seer 0001, or Mother/Seer 0871, or Mother/Seer 6789, or Mother/Seer 3871, or Mother/Seer 7282
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Pfft, their love is so familiar!|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Or Mother/Penelope, or Mother/Kaite, or Mother/Seer 0511, or Mother/Seer 0001, or Mother/Seer 0871, or Mother/Seer 6789, or Mother/Seer 3871, or Mother/Seer 7282
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Hence why Mother and Pedojar should get together and raise Penny together
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Or Mother/Seer 0511/Seer 0001/Seer 0871/Seer 6789/Seer 3871/Seer 7282...
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Or Mother/Penelope, or Mother/Kaite, or Mother/Seer 0511, or Mother/Seer 0001, or Mother/Seer 0871, or Mother/Seer 6789, or Mother/Seer 3871, or Mother/Seer 7282
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Ah....I came into the game after Mr. Emmert left, so I never could relate to the hatred for him and such. And I take the other tack regarding how Statesman is portrayed to us...yes, he and a few of the other Incarnates are the pinnacle of that ability, but it's interesting to note that how all the other alternate Coles are corrupted by their power and our Cole isn't. |
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
I like Superman but I hate Statesman. I don't think it has nearly as much to do with his ideals and standards as it has to do with his portrayal. Go talk to him about Incarnates and he just talks down to you. Rescue him from Tyrant and he just goes around stealing the glory. For a very long time, he has been presented as an unmatchable power that we, the players, must always stay below - and that might be the worst offence of all.
And, of course, there's the association of Statesman the character with Statesman the developer, who is oft-reviled around here. That can't help either. Plus, we keep having more and more Marcus Coles shoved in our faces as great powers, and always as great powers we must "team up" against - as if Marcus Cole is some inviolate pinnacle that can never be matched no matter what we do. The game would honestly be much better if Statesman and Recluse were just to kill one another, and the player characters forced into the limelight more because their respective factions now have no one else to turn to. |
As for their fates, I am wondering if the unfolding Incarnate story won't end with one or perhaps both Recluse and Statesman being killed off...stories involving wars of the gods never tend to end well....
S.
Part of Sister Flame's Clickey-Clack Posse
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The irony becomes big when you consider that Tyrant had ultimately proved to be a joke, and that this new version of Tyrant who apparently makes all other Incarnates his b@#$% and Reichsman being stupidly powerful were all things that came AFTER JACK EMMERT LEFT.|
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
I like Superman but I hate Statesman. I don't think it has nearly as much to do with his ideals and standards as it has to do with his portrayal. Go talk to him about Incarnates and he just talks down to you. Rescue him from Tyrant and he just goes around stealing the glory. For a very long time, he has been presented as an unmatchable power that we, the players, must always stay below - and that might be the worst offence of all.
And, of course, there's the association of Statesman the character with Statesman the developer, who is oft-reviled around here. That can't help either. Plus, we keep having more and more Marcus Coles shoved in our faces as great powers, and always as great powers we must "team up" against - as if Marcus Cole is some inviolate pinnacle that can never be matched no matter what we do. The game would honestly be much better if Statesman and Recluse were just to kill one another, and the player characters forced into the limelight more because their respective factions now have no one else to turn to. |
I'll admit, I'm tired of it too (though not for the same reasons), and frankly it would be nice if the next batch of Incarnate content had to do with Rularuu. You know, that dimension eating monstrosity who we couldn't fight for the longest time because he was THAT FREAKIN' MASSIVE?
Nevermind the various parts of the Shadow Shard and aspects of Rularuu we haven't fought yet, like Uuralur the Mirror in his Garden of Memories.
Other things we can look into are maybe a reborn/renewed Hamidon assault, revisting the Rikti (again, but this time we update the old mission arcs dealing with the Rikti too!), looking into that alien race that the Rikti feared (The Battlion), Circle of Thorns, Banished Pantheon, or maybe have a faction of the Tsoo and/or Warriors begin unlocking the potential of the Incarnate. (given that, as the battle nuts they are, they'd always be looking for some new, magical means of getting stronger), etc. etc.
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Actually, now that heroes (and villains) are being Incarnates... it'd be great to go toe-to-toe with the Sleeper in Dark Astoria and take back the zone.
Banished Pantheon: "Arise, Lughebu! Behold, the Sleeper has awakened!"
League of 36 heroes: "Yeah, and SO HAVE WE! BRING IT!"
*cut to massive divine curbstomp battle for DA*
Talk about the players being able to do something then that not even the Phalanx was able to accomplish.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
Actually, now that heroes (and villains) are being Incarnates... it'd be great to go toe-to-toe with the Sleeper in Dark Astoria and take back the zone.
Banished Pantheon: "Arise, Lughebu! Behold, the Sleeper has awakened!" League of 36 heroes: "Yeah, and SO HAVE WE! BRING IT!" *cut to massive divine curbstomp battle for DA* Talk about the players being able to do something then that not even the Phalanx was able to accomplish. Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
Still, an epic idea, though the devs might be leery about actually changing the zone afterwards. Maybe you dispatch the Sleeper, but it will take many years for his dark presence to dissipate. In time, Astoria will once more be the beautiful district of Paragon City it once was.
Also, the rest of this thread made me laugh so much. Thank you all.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
The irony becomes big when you consider that Tyrant had ultimately proved to be a joke, and that this new version of Tyrant who apparently makes all other Incarnates his b@#$% and Reichsman being stupidly powerful were all things that came AFTER JACK EMMERT LEFT.
I'll admit, I'm tired of it too (though not for the same reasons), and frankly it would be nice if the next batch of Incarnate content had to do with Rularuu. You know, that dimension eating monstrosity who we couldn't fight for the longest time because he was THAT FREAKIN' MASSIVE? Nevermind the various parts of the Shadow Shard and aspects of Rularuu we haven't fought yet, like Uuralur the Mirror in his Garden of Memories. Other things we can look into are maybe a reborn/renewed Hamidon assault, revisting the Rikti (again, but this time we update the old mission arcs dealing with the Rikti too!), looking into that alien race that the Rikti feared (The Battlion), Circle of Thorns, Banished Pantheon, or maybe have a faction of the Tsoo and/or Warriors begin unlocking the potential of the Incarnate. (given that, as the battle nuts they are, they'd always be looking for some new, magical means of getting stronger), etc. etc. |
I so want the Shard redone. I doubt it'll happen, but it would be really nice.
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I like where your head's at.
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Originally Posted by Seschat
Or Mother/Seer 0511/Seer 0001/Seer 0871/Seer 6789/Seer 3871/Seer 7282...
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And from this, I have created the Fusionverse, an RP group that is based on fusions of canon characters. Who leads the group?
Why, Statesline, of course!
My sides!
THEY BURN!
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I love this picture so much.
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Statesline lives again.
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If you go to about 31:45 of the UStream broadcast from SDCC a few months ago, Statesline gets some unintentional airtime from Zwillinger and Black Pebble |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Statesline lives again.
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