AoE Monster!


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As the title implies, I'm looking for an absolute beast of an AoE toon. Most of the time I am playing my Elec/Shield/Blaze scrapper, which as most of you know can take out a crowd very quickly. My question for everyone is: what (if anything) would be able to kill a group even faster? This toon has been spoiling me for far too long to the point where any other character I make doesn't seem to interest me as much because they just can't kill things as fast. Now I've become an AoE addict and for a toon to actually hold my interest it would have to be able to put out some better numbers than the ones I already have. I'd really like to make a new toon, so hopefully someone will be able to point me in the right direction.


 

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Fire/Fire Blaster
Fire/Mental Blaster

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Those are the big 3 off the top of my head.


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SS/Fire Brute


 

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Spines/Fire scrapper


 

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Fire/fire scrapper I think would have alot.


 

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Fire/fire scrapper I think would have alot.
Less than you'd think. FSC, Burn, epic AoE, and a damage aura. SS/Fire gets away with it because of Rage and Fiery Embrace working so well together. Spines/Fire, Elec/Fire and Elec/Shield can actually make an AoE chain.

Also, Fire/Dark Corr. Tar Pit and scourging Rain of Fire.


 

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Less than you'd think. FSC, Burn, epic AoE, and a damage aura. SS/Fire gets away with it because of Rage and Fiery Embrace working so well together
The Brute also gets away with it because he has a taunt aura that prevents mobs from scattering.


 

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Warshades and Peacebringers.


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Fire/fire Dom


 

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Fire/Kin Corr
Fire/Cold Corr


 

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Any ranged archetype that starts with Fire/, or most melee archetypes that start with Spines/, will be great AoE characters. The ranged ones will do more damage, while the melee ones will be tougher.

Another option you may consider is the villain epic archetype Crab Soldier. A crab is almost all AoE with a sprinkling of pets, team buffs, and durability. Your damage is a little less than a fire blaster but you're almost as hard to kill as a scrapper. It's a nice option for more advanced players who want to spray AoE death everywhere.


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Less than you'd think.
Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker. The build gets one more PBAoE (Combustion) and a Taunt aura to keep everyone in the AoEs, and is sturdy enough you don't need to put up with under-enhanced AoEs to crank out enough defense to survive.

Mine can almost chain FSC, Combustion, Fireball, and Burn continuously, while running Blazing Aura. And I don't have a ton of recharge.


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SS/Fire Brute
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Warshades and Peacebringers.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the peacebringer comment. Thanks for making my morning!


 

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Fire/mental blaster, ranged aoe damage
rad/fire blaster, aoe blapper build


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Yeah, I like Blasters too.

 

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SS/Fire Brute
This. Especially with the new(ish) burn. Mu mastery helps, but is not "needed" to work. I am currently farming shards to get the endurance alpha slot, as the rage crashes and hasten are hurting my endurance quite a bit. (Yes I konw cardiac doesn't reduce those two powers end crash, but every bit helps)

Anyway: Burn+FS+BL+EF=body pile

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Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker. The build gets one more PBAoE (Combustion) and a Taunt aura to keep everyone in the AoEs, and is sturdy enough you don't need to put up with under-enhanced AoEs to crank out enough defense to survive.

Mine can almost chain FSC, Combustion, Fireball, and Burn continuously, while running Blazing Aura. And I don't have a ton of recharge.
I have one of those. The damage is good, but you've still got Tanker damage modifiers. You only really get to do the spawn-melting thing with Build Up and Fiery Embrace going - every 2 or 3 spawns, at best. Taunt aura is invaluable, though.

You're right about the chain, though. I skipped Combustion, myself, and I can still target a boss and go Burn, FSC, Fireball, GFS, Burn, FSC and I'm pretty much down to bosses.


 

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Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. I've actually tried a few of the builds named here. Let's go down the list and I'll give some reasoning for why I hadn't considered them:

Spine/Fire - I have one of these at 50 (was one of my first 50s even) and while I really did enjoy the damage, the damage is somewhat accumulative with all the DoT, but what eventually turned me away was the frequency at which mobs would start running away.

Peacebringer/Warshade - I have a PB at 50, still haven't speced it out for i19 yet but I never got the feeling it would be able to match the AoE of my Elec/SD. Warshade on the other hand seems a lot more viable. I might have to start working on that (aside from it being the only hero AT I don't have at 50).

Fire/Fire Dom - I have heard great things about this build before. I've had a Fire/Psi that I've spent a great deal of time playing but when I play it now the damage just doesn't seem to stack up as much as I would like it to.

Blasters (in general) - This one I'm rather curious about. All of the blaster builds suggested seem like rather viable combos, although the one concern I have is do they kill the groups fast enough that you don't have to worry about them running away? Otherwise, how well does the Mace AoE immob work to counter that?

SS/Fire - Ahh this build. I actually have one of these at 50 already (and love it btw). Haven't updated the build yet for i19, and previous to that I was always too worried to pick an epic with another AoE because of the end usage. Anyone with this build care to share their experiences with the new Cardiac slots? Above all, I feel like this one has the most potential to top the AoE of my Elec/SD, but before I pour more millions into it I'd like to hear more about how well it performs.

Not trying to sound too picky here (sorry if it comes across that way) which is why I didn't state any playing preference from the beginning, because I didn't want to limit suggestions to any particular AT. Thanks again everyone for the suggestions and anyone who would like to elaborate on any of the builds mentioned your input is much appreciated.


 

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SS/Fire - Ahh this build. I actually have one of these at 50 already (and love it btw). Haven't updated the build yet for i19, and previous to that I was always too worried to pick an epic with another AoE because of the end usage. Anyone with this build care to share their experiences with the new Cardiac slots? Above all, I feel like this one has the most potential to top the AoE of my Elec/SD, but before I pour more millions into it I'd like to hear more about how well it performs.
With the +end badges (got mine on hero side because I find them easier to get) and with +end proc and num/miracle slotted, his endurance is fine. Fiery embrace turns everything into corpses pretty fast.


 

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Fire/fire Dom
Make that a Fire^3 Dom. I love mine. The AoE tools of a fire blaster plus AoE controls? Yes please.


 

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I have a L50 Fire/Stone/PM without much in regards to set bonuses and the incarnate. After a BU/FE followed by Burn,Tremor,FB,Consume and MA only an LT or Boss is left for SS followed by HM then onto the next group. So I would imagine that a Stone/Fire/PM Brute would be the quick choice for AoE carnage.


 

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I recently hit 50 with a Dark Melee/Fiery Aura/Soul Mastery Scrapper.

Key powers:

Blazing Aura ->
Shadow Meld ->
Soul Drain ->
Fiery Embrace ->
Burn

The combination of those 5 powers is all the AoE you will ever need. Since you also have Dark Melee, solo'ing the 'big ones' is also no issue. You just have so much damage buff that things die too fast to be any harm. I can clear most of a Rikti spawn set for +1/x8 in the mere 15 seconds that Shadow Meld is up. Then i just finish off the Bosses and runners.

When that 15 seconds finishes, you have your heals (two of them!) and your resistance and defense to keep you alive.

It's a beast! I'm having a blast with the character. And she's the perfect balance for me between Single Target Damage, AoE Damage, and Survivability.


 

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Rad/Fire Blaster. Take your pick of Epic pools, it really doesn't matter. By 41, you will have:

Aim and Build Up (of course)... Irradiate, Fire Sword Circle, Combustion, Neutron Bomb, Consume, Burn, Hot Feet, Blazing Aura, Atomic Blast, and.... I feel like I'm missing one. Electron Haze, if cones count... Drop Assault and Call to Justice on there too, as if you don't already have enough damage. You will also be stuck with Ring of Fire and Neutron Blast (or whatever it's called) or the eyebeams for your base attacks that you will likely never use again past 16 or so.

For those who are even more mathematically inclined than I (which is downright scary), that comes up to 7 PBAoE's (two of which are toggles), one Targeted AoE, and one Location AoE. 9 AoE's at 400% damage with a Kin... Nothing will survive. Yourself included. But that's what Rise of the Phoenix is for. You won't get all those shiny debt badges otherwise!


 

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Rad/Fire Blaster. Take your pick of Epic pools, it really doesn't matter. By 41, you will have:

Aim and Build Up (of course)... Irradiate, Fire Sword Circle, Combustion, Neutron Bomb, Consume, Burn, Hot Feet, Blazing Aura, Atomic Blast, and.... I feel like I'm missing one. Electron Haze, if cones count... Drop Assault and Call to Justice on there too, as if you don't already have enough damage. You will also be stuck with Ring of Fire and Neutron Blast (or whatever it's called) or the eyebeams for your base attacks that you will likely never use again past 16 or so.

For those who are even more mathematically inclined than I (which is downright scary), that comes up to 7 PBAoE's (two of which are toggles), one Targeted AoE, and one Location AoE. 9 AoE's at 400% damage with a Kin... Nothing will survive. Yourself included. But that's what Rise of the Phoenix is for. You won't get all those shiny debt badges otherwise!
Yeah, I have a lowbie Rad/Fire on a low pop server so I'm left soloing with him. Everytime I log on to him I'm amazed at how few ST attacks he has. All the AoEs seem like overkill when I'm soloing. On teams he's a beast.