Incarnate System: an insult to skilled players
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AzureSkyCiel,
Posted on: 2010-12-04 02:53 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Stupid Thread: an insult to intelligent players.
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Yea, the OP is amusing, but BI's ranting on the subject is just plain absurd.
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Originally Posted by Clebstein
Also, I'm confused as to how some people think the game recognizes players who are leeching, and gives them extra rewards for it.
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Eh, i remember back when she was ranting on about how useless Darkest Night is. Apparently she thought it was a single target debuff that had a huge taunt effect or something. Which is understandable if you never read power descriptions and don't pay attention when you use powers. Ah, memories... good times.
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Yea, the OP is amusing, but BI's ranting on the subject is just plain absurd.
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That post really tied the thread together,man. I'd get annoyed about being "unworthy", but I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber. And am unworried.
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Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
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Originally Posted by Fritzy
Incarnate System: an insult to skilled players
1. Using the RNG (Random Number Generator) to distribute Incarnate Shards puts them in... reductio ad absurdum. |
OMG!!! You are so right! I've always hated the RNG. It totally sucks and robs me of everything I deserve. I don't know how many times I, a highly skilled and worthy player, have been robbed of rewards like Numina++ and LotG+ by undeserving grinders who do nothing but sit at the door while I do all the real work.
So let me know when you are done writing YOUR MMO because I definitely want to play game with such a fair and balanced system of rewards. PM me when you are almost done because I just need to beta that.
It should be fun!
Or...
Bwuahahahahahahaha!!! That was hilarious. I haven't seen rich satire like this in a really long time. I especially loved where you suggested we replace the RNG you hate with a completely different RNG which you don't. What a great way to kick off the weekend. Thank you, Fritzy! Kudos to you.
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You mean like how they could get on an airplane that happens to have an electrical or mechanical problem that gets missed and crashes?|
Originally Posted by Fritzy
Imagine how those kids would have turned out if, at every important point in their life, I rolled the dice and solely allowed RNG processes to determine their fate.
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Or maybe happening to get hit by a drunk driver?
Or happening to find a $100 bill on the street?
Or any of the other things that happen *completely by chance* in life?
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You're kidding, right? That's the second most outrageous thing I've read in this thread yet. Seriously, I've never even HEARD of something this preposterous.|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
First off, lazy programming my oversized, hairy left buttock! This is merely you nerdraging because you don't have complete control of the system. You have no idea what sort of programming went into this. And, as usual, the first attack of the system itself is with the lazy, know-nothing schlub's argument about "bad programming".
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How do you SIT long enough to even play CoH when the left side of your butt is larger than the right?
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I completely agree.
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Originally Posted by Fritzy
Incarnate System: an insult to skilled players
1. Using the RNG (Random Number Generator) to distribute Incarnate Shards puts them in the hands of undeserving players and can deny the shards to worthy players. Randomness should not be used to determine who obtains Incarnate boosts but should be rewarded to those who succesfully demonstrate mastery of their individual skills. |
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I'm fairly sure you can get special chairs for that.
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Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
You're kidding, right? That's the second most outrageous thing I've read in this thread yet. Seriously, I've never even HEARD of something this preposterous.
How do you SIT long enough to even play CoH when the left side of your butt is larger than the right? |
@True Metal
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Nah, the right one's just as huge.|
Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
You're kidding, right? That's the second most outrageous thing I've read in this thread yet. Seriously, I've never even HEARD of something this preposterous.
How do you SIT long enough to even play CoH when the left side of your butt is larger than the right? |
You've heard the term "working my *** off"?
Unfortunately for me, I still got a LOT of *** left back there. So I should be employed for at least a couple millennia.
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Sez you.|
Originally Posted by Fritzy
Unskilled players just want the rewards without the thoughtful work and those players should not be Incarnates.
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How about we let everyone play according to their own play style, get rewarded according to what they're comfortable with and not judge them unworthy of the rewards they obtain for doing so?
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The point of your OP was, obviously, that you want to decide who gets to become an Incarnate based upon your view of how the Real World should work and apply that to a Video Game that is meant to be a pleasurable time sink.|
Originally Posted by Fritzy
In case you missed the main point of my OP, I think something as important to the future of the game should be based on principles more profound than those relying on the RNG and Luck.
Imagine how those kids would have turned out if, at every important point in their life, I rolled the dice and solely allowed RNG processes to determine their fate. |
As for 'the future of the game', the Incarnate system seems to be just what this game needed from where I am sitting. I can certainly see ways to improve and tweak it, but a fundamental re-write is not needed. From the various level of excitement both on the boards and in the game, others think as I do it seems and I have not heard anyone other than the OP spout anything like this kind of dribble.
And, if you think success in Real Life is not tilted absurdly toward blind luck, then you really need adjust the medication. Most of the best and worst things in life occur through random chance, right up to and including your conception, unless one is a test-tube baby.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
If this is true then I feel sorry for those kids and the screwed up values they are getting from someone that doesn't get that this is a pretendy funtime game.
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I really hope I never have to hire any of them if they have similar outlooks to the degree they want to enforce Real Life rules on Video Games.
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Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
The point of your OP was, obviously, that you want to decide who gets to become an Incarnate based upon your view of how the Real World should work and apply that to a Video Game that is meant to be a pleasurable time sink.
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Is one side of your butt bigger than the other, too?!? That's so sad! I didn't realize this was such a widespread problem! |
Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
As for 'the future of the game', the Incarnate system seems to be just what this game needed from where I am sitting. I can certainly see ways to improve and tweak it, but a fundamental re-write is not needed. From the various level of excitement both on the boards and in the game, others think as I do it seems and I have not heard anyone other than the OP spout anything like this kind of dribble.
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Is there a chairity I can donate to or something?
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I think there is a facebook awareness campaign for this. Something about pictures of brown eyes. Mine are green, so that's me out then.
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Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Is one side of your butt bigger than the other, too?!? That's so sad! I didn't realize this was such a widespread problem!
Is there a chairity I can donate to or something? |
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Even getting the right results of In vitro fertilisation is left to chance! There's usually about 75,000 sperm used to fertilize the egg, meaning it'd be pure chance that 'You' get in first.|
Originally Posted by MajorPrankster
And, if you think success in Real Life is not tilted absurdly toward blind luck, then you really need adjust the medication. Most of the best and worst things in life occur through random chance, right up to and including your conception, unless one is a test-tube baby.
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Although one COULD use ICSI, since that uses a single sperm, but that method does increase the chance for birth defects (although that is in dispute) further leaving the child's life and future up to a RNG!
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Aww man, now I'm TOTALLY bummed! I'm too po' to donate!|
Originally Posted by Emberly
I think there is a facebook awareness campaign for this. Something about pictures of brown eyes. Mine are green, so that's me out then.
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Maybe we should start a lop-sided butt awareness campaign on the boards! I could get behind that!
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I was wondering this myself.
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Originally Posted by Silverado
Since when does PvE take any skill?
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In America? Not so special a chair, I think. |
Originally Posted by TrueMetal
I'm fairly sure you can get special chairs for that.
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Takes LOTS of skill to ignore the comments of the butt-hurt PvPers who think PvPing is the only true determining factor for "skill".
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You should talk! You cheat! Floating chairs don't count.
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
In America? Not so special a chair, I think.
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Obviously this thread has shown that being able to play despite the crippling effects of LBS* is the true measure of skill.|
Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Takes LOTS of skill to ignore the comments of the butt-hurt PvPers who think PvPing is the only true determining factor for "skill".
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Obviously this thread has shown that being able to play despite the crippling effects of LBS* is the true measure of skill.
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