Is the accuracy in this game suspicious to anyone else?
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Posted on: 2010-09-20 16:55 in Player Questions
So, let's see your Hero Stat info. tracking the accuracy of your attacks and of the mobs.
Run herostats, see the actually numbers for yourself. Anything else is just perception.
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I'm sorry that math > your paranoid delusions, but them's the breaks.|
Originally Posted by Tolerance
I love this game, and having a blast, but this can just no longer be ignored. I'm posting this after a couple hours, yet again, of whiffing quite a bit with a "95% chance" to hit, while getting eat up by mobs with 55 - 60% chance to hit that hardly ever miss.
I'm all for this being a "perception" thing as some people are so quick to suggest when someone brings up an issue about the game, but I don't think that's the case. I seriously think these to hit rolls are railroaded and/or tampered with. One of you forum cartel fanboi's give me some game prozac in the form of convoluted, math-laden jibberish to make me think it's all in my head, please. |
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It's all in your head, please. |
Originally Posted by Tolerance
make me think it's all in my head, please.
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Seriously, there is always the perception that accuracy has been nerfed. That's one reason I found it so funny to say "OMG! Accuracy has been un-nerfed!!!" when the accuracy of players of low levels was increased. You've got to either laugh at it, or it'll drive you crazy.
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Originally Posted by Neil DeGrasse Tyson
"If you're scientifically literate, the world looks very different to you; and that understanding empowers you."
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No, you fool! It's obvious that the devs are in collusion with the coders of hero stats to hide their malicious accuracy tampering!|
Originally Posted by Jetpack
So, let's see your Hero Stat info. tracking the accuracy of your attacks and of the mobs.
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Don't be blinded by the evil rantings of the forum cartel! They're obviously on the payroll as well! NOBODY would play this game of their own free will long enough to get 10000 posts on the forum!
Fight the Power! Bring the truth to the drooling masses! THEY NERFED ACCURACY IN ISSUE ONE!!!!!
Be well, people of CoH.
Not one, but four, FOUR cartels!
Anyway, thanks for the prozac, and the tip to hero stats. And the humor
All in my head... all in my head... all in my head... all in my head...
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Technical term?*|
Originally Posted by Tolerance
whiffing quite a bit
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*translation- any assertion where you don't actually take the time to do some counting, while trying to impugn the results of a statistical system are going to be looked at with scorn.
You can trust me on this, that if there were an issue with accuracy, the math-heads would have caught it and been talking about it since closed beta. They don't really need you to ask before they start checking these things.
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This thread is suspicious.
*dons foil hat*
And I'm suspicous of people wearing tin foil hats...
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Originally Posted by RobertoLyon
And I'm suspicous of people wearing tin foil hats...
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(Where has he been, anyway? i miss his whimsical questions.)
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Originally Posted by Tolerance
Not one, but four, FOUR cartels!
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You know where you're seeing those words under the names? Well, it's all in your head.
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Its perception. In the thick of fighting, you attack 20 times a minute easily, so you'll be missing at least once per minute, which adds up to a lot of misses over several hours play.
And each miss can seem special at the time.
"That hit was going to stun the Sorceror before he could teleport away"
"That was my best attack recycling, now I have to wait 20 seconds for it to recharge"
"I'll now have to use two other attacks to take that guy down"
"Because I missed, that Freak got a chance to activate his heal"
"I'm almost out of Endurance!"
"I'm at 5% health"
and so on.
There aren't that many misses that you don't notice, because each attack is intended to do something, however small.
The loudest sound in the world is "whiff!"
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I have been getting the same, especially in Praetoria for Lowbies. My DP/EM and my Kin/SD has been missing an awful lot. I watch the combat window and it shows a lot of bad luck, and when I expect the streakbreaker to kick in, it doesn't. (Being 1 miss for 95%, 2 for 80-90%, I think, 4 or 5 for 70-80%, etc.) I do think there might be some kind of problem in the system. Or me, and two other friends, plus you, are having REALLY bad luck.
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Originally Posted by Tolerance
I love this game, and having a blast, but this can just no longer be ignored. I'm posting this after a couple hours, yet again, of whiffing quite a bit with a "95% chance" to hit, while getting eat up by mobs with 55 - 60% chance to hit that hardly ever miss.
I'm all for this being a "perception" thing as some people are so quick to suggest when someone brings up an issue about the game, but I don't think that's the case. I seriously think these to hit rolls are railroaded and/or tampered with. One of you forum cartel fanboi's give me some game prozac in the form of convoluted, math-laden jibberish to make me think it's all in my head, please. Game on! |
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You guys do realize that after every new issue, people start complaining about accuracy, right? It's as regular as the tide.
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New Issues bring new characters. New characters, it should go without saying, miss more than 50s. However just because a difference between the two is noticeable doesn't make it excessive.
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Originally Posted by Camper
You guys do realized that after every new issue, people start complaining about accuracy, right? It's as regular as the tide.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
No, you fool! It's obvious that the devs are in collusion with the coders of hero stats to hide their malicious accuracy tampering!
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I grew accustomed to missing 20% of the time with a 95% chance to hit many many years ago, well before COH. It is irritating because I HATE to miss and I overslot accuracy in all my powers, but I am resigned to my fate. After all, unlucky at cards...
The closest I've come to counting is to count while I'm attacking. If the hit chance is 95 then I count +1. I usually don't get over 10 and frequently don't go over 5, but I have been known to have a streak of 25 sometimes.
I just did a google on HeroStats. I think I'll download it and give it a whirl. I'd love to be surprised.
Didn't they put in streakbreaker code?
ie foes get a autohit after a certain number of misses and players get an automiss?
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It doesn't give automisses, only autohits. See: Attack mechanics.
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
Didn't they put in streakbreaker code?
ie foes get a autohit after a certain number of misses and players get an automiss? |
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
But yes, the streakbreaker does work for both players and for critters. Fortunately, most critters have lower than a 90% chance to hit
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
I love this game, and having a blast, but this can just no longer be ignored. I'm posting this after a couple hours, yet again, of whiffing quite a bit with a "95% chance" to hit, while getting eat up by mobs with 55 - 60% chance to hit that hardly ever miss.
I'm all for this being a "perception" thing as some people are so quick to suggest when someone brings up an issue about the game, but I don't think that's the case. I seriously think these to hit rolls are railroaded and/or tampered with.
One of you forum cartel fanboi's give me some game prozac in the form of convoluted, math-laden jibberish to make me think it's all in my head, please.
Game on!