Idea for Vehicles (Oh look, a dead horse...)


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(Puts on flame-retardant suit...)

Okay, so before I state my ideas let me say that I know the devs have said this isn't going to happen, and no I haven't read ALL the threads on the vehicles suggestions, because A) I'm lazy... and B) I have too much of a life outside of the game/forums... So forgive me for any similarities to any other posts...

As for bringing this subject up again, I basically wanted to put my 2 inf in on the subject and also keep it alive so that hopefully eventually the devs will see how much the players want it and perhaps work it into the game... So without further adieu...

Vehicles, a Travel Power:

Much like Jetpacks and other travel power costume pieces, vechicles such as cars, motorcycles, jets and helicopters will produce a costume and animation change of the vehicle around the avatar when activated.

Customization will be like costume customization in which you will choose the shape of the vehicle, decoration pieces, and patterns and colors.

Now for all the issues that I read about that were brought up...

How will vehicles travel over certain terain, like water? Will it be able to "jump"?

That one's easy, at least I think it is... For the Helicopters it would be REALLY simple... like any other flight power you would be able to fly and land anywhere... and as for water, make it have pontoons or a stylish floatation bottom... As for the cars/motorcycles, you have two choices...

First with the land terain: you can either have them "jump" via hydrolics or jump jets, or more simply, you could make them unable to jump, and the player would need to stick to the roads (which is more "realistic") and should the player get stuck or need to traverse the more rocky or uneven terain, they can deactivate their vehicle to do so... And as for the water, same thing... either make the vehicles amphibious, or just make them unable to go in the water, at which point the vehicle travel power will automatically deactivate and the player will have to swim until they get to a road to ractivate...

The other big issue: What happens when you activate your vehicle power in a cave or building?

Again, in my mind, easy... NOTHING!!! Make it inherent in the power that it cannot be activated in indoor instances such as buildings and caves and sewers and such... the only way a hero would take a vehicle into a building is if he drove it in through the wall, which OBVIOUSLY would not be a part of the game... unless the devs went nuts... Vehicles are meant to be a way to get from point A to point B and then the hero hoofs it from there.

So it makes no sense to have this power usable indoors, which solves that problem as far as I'm concerned...

So there are my thoughts so far... let me know what you guys think, and please... be gentle... LOL

Thanks for your time!


 

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(Puts on flame-retardant suit...)

Okay, so before I state my ideas let me say that I know the devs have said this isn't going to happen, and no I haven't read ALL the threads on the vehicles suggestions, because A) I'm lazy... and B) I have too much of a life outside of the game/forums... So forgive me for any similarities to any other posts...

As for bringing this subject up again, I basically wanted to put my 2 inf in on the subject and also keep it alive so that hopefully eventually the devs will see how much the players want it and perhaps work it into the game... So without further adieu...
Except that "the players" don't want it. You and some other people want it, just as myself and some other people would rather the Devs use their valuable design time to work on something else. Neither of us represents in any way the majority of the player base.

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Vehicles, a Travel Power:

Much like Jetpacks and other travel power costume pieces, vechicles such as cars, motorcycles, jets and helicopters will produce a costume and animation change of the vehicle around the avatar when activated.
So, are these going to be Power Pools, or one-off powers? If Power Pools, what are the other three powers in the set? If one-off powers, how will they fit into the current power structure?

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Customization will be like costume customization in which you will choose the shape of the vehicle, decoration pieces, and patterns and colors.
Which would require a completely new avatar design interface.

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Now for all the issues that I read about that were brought up...

How will vehicles travel over certain terain, like water? Will it be able to "jump"?

That one's easy, at least I think it is... For the Helicopters it would be REALLY simple... like any other flight power you would be able to fly and land anywhere... and as for water, make it have pontoons or a stylish floatation bottom... As for the cars/motorcycles, you have two choices...

First with the land terain: you can either have them "jump" via hydrolics or jump jets, or more simply, you could make them unable to jump, and the player would need to stick to the roads (which is more "realistic") and should the player get stuck or need to traverse the more rocky or uneven terain, they can deactivate their vehicle to do so... And as for the water, same thing... either make the vehicles amphibious, or just make them unable to go in the water, at which point the vehicle travel power will automatically deactivate and the player will have to swim until they get to a road to ractivate...

The other big issue: What happens when you activate your vehicle power in a cave or building?

Again, in my mind, easy... NOTHING!!! Make it inherent in the power that it cannot be activated in indoor instances such as buildings and caves and sewers and such... the only way a hero would take a vehicle into a building is if he drove it in through the wall, which OBVIOUSLY would not be a part of the game... unless the devs went nuts... Vehicles are meant to be a way to get from point A to point B and then the hero hoofs it from there.

So it makes no sense to have this power usable indoors, which solves that problem as far as I'm concerned...

So there are my thoughts so far... let me know what you guys think, and please... be gentle... LOL

Thanks for your time!
With these limitations in place, using a power selection on vehicle powers is a trap, relegating it to a power only taken for RP purposes (whereas, Walk is an RP power which everyone got for free, and it was done on somebody's rare "free time."). Anyone who wants to get around the City faster and not have to worry about these limitations will continue to use the current Travel Powers.

Considering the amount of development time that would be required to make vehicles a reality (new vehicle creation interface alone), even with the limitations you propose (actually, making a power unusable in an indoor instance, but still usable in an outdoor instance would require the creation of new tech, too), do you feel this would be a worthwhile use of Development money and time?

I don't.


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So no jumping, strafing or using powers while in vehicle mode and you can only use VM on non instance city maps.

What's the point again?


 

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So no jumping, strafing or using powers while in vehicle mode and you can only use VM on non instance city maps.

What's the point again?
About as much point as there is to [Walk]

Which I never use.

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...let me say that I know the devs have said this isn't going to happen, and no I haven't read ALL the threads on the vehicles suggestions, because A) I'm lazy...
you really shouldn't have went any farther then this. /unsigned.


 

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Not only is that a severely gimped "travel power" with the limitations you put in, but there are side issues you don't seem to have touched.

- Zone travel. You're flying a helicopter *into* a ferry or train?
- The maps don't currently mark you as being "indoors" or "outdoors." For this exceptionally limited travel power, you now have the devs reworking each and every map in the game. (You can't just call "indoors" "In an instance," as not all instances are in office buildings or caves.)
- You say the cars/motorcycles "just" don't work on water. I can't think of a single power that does anything different in water. (Note I don't mean "animates differently," which is a completely different department.)
- You don't touch on powers. With superspeed, superjump, and flight (to a lesser degree, just because of how it "travels," with teleport) I can attack on the way. What about with these various vehicles?
- Motorcycles. I don't think you're realizing how big an investment of time these things would be, even without being customized. (I want to say we have a dev quote going over it, but as I'm posting now purely due to lack of sleep which I will shortly attempt to rectify, someone else can track it down.)


 

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Originally Posted by CaptnJustice View Post
(Puts on flame-retardant suit...)

Okay, so before I state my ideas let me say that I know the devs have said this isn't going to happen, and no I haven't read ALL the threads on the vehicles suggestions, because A) I'm lazy... and B) I have too much of a life outside of the game/forums... So forgive me for any similarities to any other posts...

As for bringing this subject up again, I basically wanted to put my 2 inf in on the subject and also keep it alive so that hopefully eventually the devs will see how much the players want it and perhaps work it into the game... So without further adieu...
When will you be starting your "Remove ED" and "Remove Travel Suppression" and "Roll back PvP to pre-I13" and "merge servers" threads?


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About as much point as there is to [Walk]

Which I never use.

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Except walk was something fairly simple, that BaBs worked on in his spare time because he felt like it. Not something that would frankly require quite substantial Dev hours put into it. That was the best bit about Walk, it was done on the side as a little bonus.

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I have to sign this because I really want to ride a dead horse as a vehicle. Would you ride on the back of the horse and it just looks like a zombie horse? Or would the horse be lying on it's back and you hold it's feet kind of like a jet ski?

Ooh ooh! And is a flies aura included? There has to be a flies aura!


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* takes out shotgun *

Bang !!!


*kills dead horse *


 

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Does this mean I get to start another swinging travel power thread?


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I'd like to see them as inventions or something; powers that you collect in-game rather than choose at level.
I think they could work as alternatives to travel powers. They could be faster than travel powers (or as strong as a highly enhanced one), but completely unusable in combat (they vanish/deactivate in combat).
They could easily disable jumping with it active as well, and make it deactivate while swimming.

I want my motorcycle!


 

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lol


 

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Originally Posted by CaptnJustice View Post
......and no I haven't read ALL the threads on the vehicles suggestions, because A) I'm lazy... and B) I have too much of a life outside of the game/forums... So forgive me for any similarities to any other posts...
Nice touch. Way to get the crowd on your side.


 

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Nice touch. Way to get the crowd on your side.
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Sooo, will the vehicles appear out of thin air like weapons?? Umm, is there a way to justify carrying a vehicle around with you everywhere? Just sayin...


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Sooo, will the vehicles appear out of thin air like weapons?? Umm, is there a way to justify carrying a vehicle around with you everywhere? Just sayin...
could go the DBZ Capsule Corp route... but that might just be asking for a lawsuit.


 

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You knew it was a dead horse but you posted anyways.


No.


 

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I would love to see vehicles in the game, but it's not going to happen. There's too much work for something the majority (a guess) won't use. If the Devs ever feel like doing all the work to put vehicles in, i would be very happy. But there are other things i want more and other things we all need.


 

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Do skyraiders still bring personal jets inside offices?


 

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So let's review:

1) You admit to being too lazy to do any kind of thorough research of your own. Bad.
2) you imply that anybody who posts with any regularity on the forums has no life. Nice personal touch there.
3) you admit in the thread title that this idea has already been addressed.

So not only /unsigned, but you're kind of a twit as well.


 

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Ive ran out of gas to burn people for these posts nowadays cos theres so many...ill just do the Unsigned business.


 

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From the nearly 6 years I've been posting here whenever I see this suggestion brought up I've always noticed that it's very heavily sided
against turning this into City of Cars.

A handful of people would like to see this added. An overwhelming majority would not.

You listed every reason yourself, before you decided to ignore the 6 years of debate.


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