AoE lawnmowers
By
Bright Shadow,
Posted on: 2010-07-15 12:47 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
2 crabs.
SS/Fire/Mu Brute with a Fire/Kin Corr backing it up.
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My fire/shield scrapper can do some pretty obscene things in x8 missions.
Spines/Dark Scrapper is really fun.
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A Thugs/Dark MM is a complete monster. 
Fire/somthing blaster. Also AR blaster, but I'm not fond of those. Electric melee, if I remember right.
One of the most impressive use of AoE was done by a Super Strength/Fire/Something Brute. The Something was able to do a AoE immob, he would drop Burn, Footstomp, maybe more as I don't know that AT well. Really brutal brute.
Fire/mental/ice blaster has about a 10 second cycle on groups of 10 or so, but the incoming damage is problematic. I suppose you could carry 16 medium purples and reload when you run low.
My spine/dark was always on point for a big group, and was also a pre-inventions critter. It's a whole new world out there and I'm sure spine/dark works VERY well.
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On a team, a Radiation / Fire Blaster.
my spine/da scrapper is a minion mowing machine! 
Spines/ D A lvl 50 Scrap, stone/wm lvl 50 tank, Kat/reg lvl 50 Scrap
Grav/Kin lvl 50 Cont, Fire/Enegry lvl 50 Blast
Warshade lvl 50, PB lvl 39, nightwidow lvl 50, crab lvl 42
plant/thorns lvl 50 dom, ice/fire lvl 40 dom, grav/nrg lvl 41 dom
Believe or not, but I turned my fortunata into a AoE machine.
Aim + Spin + Soul Tentacles + Psychic Wail + Psychic Tornado + Dark Obliteration = is my attack chain.
I teamed up with a fire/kin corr for the fulcrum and Speed Boost to help with the recharge of Psychic Wail.
Hm, I cannot stress enough about what 2 crabs can do together:
- Flat 32% def vs all
- Flat capped ranged defense
- Nice res overall, especially to non lethal/smashing dmg
That's about survivability.
Speaking about lawnmowing:
1. Throw an aoe imm from PP
2. 2X venom grenade (stacked -40% res)
3. 2X frag grenade
4. 2X suppression
5. 2X aoe from PP (eg. disruptor blast)
6. profit!
Well, when you're allowing fixed pairs there are a LOT of ridiculous results possible. (Brute and a Sonic/Kin, for instance.)
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I will say rad/fire blasters are pretty disgustingly AoEish. They have end and survival issues solo but on a team I've never had a toon like it...even my 3 farming brutes and my fire/kin and fire/rad trollers.
A rad/fire blaster has as much AoE output at level 20 as an of my brutes does at 50th...they just flop over much easier.
My fire/fire tank does pretty well, but compared to my spines/fire scrapper, its more of a hedge trimmer.
Spines/Elec is nice as well... never have to worry about end.
Though the AT wasn't designed for it Spines stalkers can unleash a nasty bit of aoe. Also from my own toon stockpile I'll add my plant/storm troller at 50% global recharge.
Edit: If your dual boxing or have a friend, a green machine team, two emp/sonic defenders, is one of the hardest combos to ever beat. They trivialize +4/x8.
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Sheild/SS/Fire Tankers get it while its hot!
My Fire/Dark Corruptor is pretty ridiculous on AoEs. At high levels, extra enemies don't even slow down her kill time; it's just more fodder for the flaming tar pit of doom.
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Spines/Fire Scrapper and an Empathy/Anything Defender.
In fact...
The Defender could take Recall Friend. The Scrapper could go AFK and just turn on their toggles. The Defender would be able to farm at 50% efficiency just by teleporting the Scrapper and healing them.
Spines/Fire is just that awesome. It's like a flaming monolith of bananas...that are on fire!
A duo of doom would be:
Plant/Kin controller and a Sonic/Energy or Sonic/Fire blaster.
A team I once did which was amazing was a rad/MM Blaster and a Sonic/Ice blaster.
Yeah, if you want the 'best' AoE, for mowing down large groups, Ranged>Melee, just because most ranged AoE's can (a) be fired faster, and (b) hit a wider swath of targets. This is purely on the 'hit as many things as possible' scale. Blasters have an extra boost here as they have high damage, many sets have a good range of AoE's, and they can hit 16 rather than 10 targets with some powers.
Some other archetypes, however, can compete with other means. The infamous Fire/kin is a low-ish damage archetype, but has the ability to boost its damage to the cap. Crab soldiers can apply stacks of +damage from assaults as well as -resistance from venom grenade to be doing more damage after a continuous damage boost.
Where things get muddy is the fact that things often hit back: if you walk into a room throwing fire everywhere, things get unhappy and retaliate. This is why most assume by 'best AoE' you mean big blast firepower with toughness too. For lots of AoE+toughness, it goes to mitigation-heavier archetypes. AoE melee sets, crabs, some controllers, and some corruptors fall into this category.
My Sonic/Mental blaster is shaping up pretty nicely with two damage cones, a sleep cone and a nasty PBAoE. Its fairly safe to use due to the sleep and drain psyche (which makes a nice difference from my fire/fire blaster).
2 crabs or huntsmen is brutal.
Somthing like Fire/Storm corrupter might be good too.
Crab, Fortunata spine dark scrapper
Another good AoE Support: Fire/Cold Corruptor with perma Rain of Fire and Sleet. Add a Brute with Foot Stomp to the mix and they'll chew through most things with incredible ease.
I've always been a fan of AT combos that allow for (relatively) fast killing of massive amounts of baddies and was wondering, which combo would you say does this best? Besides fire/kin (i have a passionate hatred of them
) I would pretty much consider playing anything, and currently I'm working on a spine/dark scrapper which I'm having quite a bit of fun with.
So, who's the AoE king?
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