Alpha Slot Removed from Going Rogue
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-07-12 11:36 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
I kno you hate it when someone says this but, at this point...
The pre purchase was what 30$ oh well.
If 30$ puts a hurtin on you thhhhhaaaaaaattttttttttt much perhaps you need to review your entertainment budget.
I, personally, have been on a years subscription since Feb and havent played the game at all. I look at it as "supporting something I love, or have loved... leaning towards past love, but Moving on!
I have thrown away money on all kinds a **** I dont give a damn about today. This really is getting blown way out of proportion.
They NEEDED to FIX stuff.
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We got Croatoa for FREE and that issue I believe came with 2 new powersets, and new costumes...|
Originally Posted by Frosticus
Don't make statements when you have no idea. This is your speculation based on next to nothing, not a definitive statement.
All DCUO has to have is 4 zones, a few costumes, 4 powersets, lvl 1-20 content and it will already be pretty much neck and neck with GR. |
I actually fail to see why we have to pay for GR at all. They have already stripped it and given so much of what was supposed to be in it for free already... > Ultra Mode > Other stuff I cant think of officially at the moment.
As stated above, ATM I have zero interest in DCUO but anyone just sitting back and claiming that GR is so much more must have fallen on their head recently. Perhaps they need a friend to call 911 for them.
DCUO customization info...
As stated in that thread, I have other links to add to it that is more up to date but thats on my other computer and will add more to it later.
The cell shading is a turn off for me, however it does look leagues better that CO... also all the PvP open world blah is just a killer. I am still hoping for flagged. I think it might be but I have to re read the article.
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Who cares about how to unlock it? *** *** ***** *****, **** ******* ** ** *****! ******* ***** *** ** ***** ***** **** ***** ** ***** *** ******?|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I mean that when I19 comes around, you might find that the method of unlocking and creating Incarnate slots might look quite similar to the method that was intended for the Alpha slot in GR.
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Except maybe you!
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I wasn't meaning by numbers |
Originally Posted by Frosticus
Don't make statements when you have no idea. This is your speculation based on next to nothing, not a definitive statement.
All DCUO has to have is 4 zones, a few costumes, 4 powersets, lvl 1-20 content and it will already be pretty much neck and neck with GR. |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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You seemed to object to the "grind" invovled in unlocking it - that "grind" is very likely to remain the same when the slot does go live - it wasn't the reason it was pulled from GR.
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Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
Who cares about how to unlock it?
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@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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God help us, I hope they don't base it on those.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think the new tech of the Halloween Banners and the Winter Lord's realm may have been test runs for possible Incarnate zone events - especially the Winter Lord one.
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Winter Lord might be OK, people did participate in that, but the Banner event is an unmitigated disaster. It's hell (pun intended) to get a decent zone effort going for them about 4 days after the Halloween event starts, and I have never seen anyone even try it out of season.
Add in that people would have to go get level 50s if they weren't already on one to get credit? Bigtime fail unless it was significantly modified from what we see today.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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This post leaves me wondering if you've ever actually run a TF with more than one 50 on the team.|
Originally Posted by Pheonyx
You have to remember this: Posi said that this Alpha Slot thing wasn't exemplaring... which means in a team of 8 50's who all had this Alpha Slot, guess how many got the benefits from this Alpha Slot?
If you said 8, then you need to read up on "Super Sidekicking"... because your answer is WRONG!!! The SSK system auto bumps everyone to 1 level below the Team Leader... but it also auto-exemplars to 1 level below the Team Leader; that means the other 7 50's on that team are auto-exemplared to 49 (thus not Level 50 to take advantage of this Alpha Slot). The only true 50 on that team of 8 is the Team Leader in the eyes of the programming... which is the problem. |
The next time you do, click on the 50s who aren't the leader and look at their info. Or even better, take a 50 of your own on a TF that you don't lead and look at your own level.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Of course DCUO is going to have more content than GR. It's an entire new game while GR is an expansion. If you thought GR would have enough content to be like a brand new game, then your expectations were astronomically too high.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
Don't make statements when you have no idea. This is your speculation based on next to nothing, not a definitive statement.
All DCUO has to have is 4 zones, a few costumes, 4 powersets, lvl 1-20 content and it will already be pretty much neck and neck with GR. |
My response to the news:
Booooo.... (urns).
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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weren't we supposed to get this in early 2nd quarter of 2010? then didn't that become early 3rd quarter 2010 and then mid 3rd quarter 2010...since they are not going to release incarnate level then can we roll back to this month??
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, I'm pretty sure they wanted to - but it hasn't quite turned out that way, so they're faced with either giving it to us when it doesn't work, or delaying the release of GR.
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well if it is removed,I can understand as COx has had a few flops in the past,and can not afford another one(for the record flops like MA,became a farmers great hope,get your char from 1-50 in six hours of play,never leave atlas park). and now they no longer have the only super hero game, champions online is out,DCUO is coming,marvel has one in the works.
so better to get it right.than to eat some crow.
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Rabid Bunny 1 Person VG
Both on Pinnacle
Hobbit's Hole 1 Person SG
Spider's Web 1 Person VG
Both on Freedom
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I might well have done, but I wasn't playing the game back then. I guess it would've depended on the speed of level progression. I do think a missing 1/5th would've bugged me less than a missing 9/10th, though.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
I suppose. Did you dislike the launches of coh and cov because they didn't offer the full 1-50 system?
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I really don't think the Marvel one is aiming for the same market as CoH 
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Oh, you see that's why they never give concrete release dates (they just imply them by saying things like "look forward to testing GR in Q2 2010!").|
Originally Posted by Shadow Wail
weren't we supposed to get this in early 2nd quarter of 2010? then didn't that become early 3rd quarter 2010 and then mid 3rd quarter 2010...since they are not going to release incarnate level then can we roll back to this month??
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Of course, since they can't even deliver the whole product they promised on the release date when they do give it, I don't see why they didn't give a date before and just handwave it off like they're doing now.
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Speaking of making statements when you don't know what you're talking about! DCUO is a FULL GAME... GR is an EXPANSION... This comment made me LOL... I love when people try to get other people to understand that they know less than they act like! |
Originally Posted by Frosticus
Don't make statements when you have no idea. This is your speculation based on next to nothing, not a definitive statement.
All DCUO has to have is 4 zones, a few costumes, 4 powersets, lvl 1-20 content and it will already be pretty much neck and neck with GR. |
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I hope the "morally offending his entire playerbase" isn't a reference to AE, because if it is, that's a huge pantload.
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James_Donner shovels: I've just gotta express my frustration with yet another failure by the dev team to bring something to fruition on time and in a manner that works with the game. First was PVP and then Posi's AE fiasco. This looks to be strike three for him. This time instead of ruining pvp or morally offending his entire playerbase is a failure to meet an already extended deadline for some kind of real level 50 content. |
Dec out.
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It's a repetitive thing in the entire industry. It's not in the least unusual for a game to pull a feature that doesn't work right for further work. I love how people seem to think that creating video games is like waving some magic wand and everything is perfect. It simply doesn't work like that. You make it, then you test it and find out where it's messed up because just about EVERYTHING is first time around. And sometimes they're a little more broken than is fixable right away.
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James_Donner points fingers: The point isn't that it wasn't right. The Point is that they committed to GETTING IT RIGHT by now and failed. That this is a repetitive theme for this dev team. They just aren't good enough at creating real the lvl 50 content in a timely manner. It only been 6 years. Maybe its time to clean house? |
Dec out.
Or, worse yet, it SEEMS to be fine, some players think it's fine... but when A LOT more players take a look in Open Beta it is seen to be broken/bad and needs to undergo a long and tedious fix. Then people rant because it was "promised."
I guess I still stand by the fact that I would much rather get something late and working, than early/on-time and defective.
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You mean like the amount of content included in the last paid expansion? Like City of Villians, which was, well, almost a entire new game. Yeah I really do expect that much content for what I just paid for. But it looks like I am going to be getting jack squat because I won't even be able to see the new zones without switching servers. And I think that all the villian AT's were just a little more work than 4 new power sets. I reiterate again that this Dev team just isn't getting the job done anymore. For whatever reason they just work to slow. Its time for new blood or a new system that is easier to create with.
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Originally Posted by Haggard4Life
Of course DCUO is going to have more content than GR. It's an entire new game while GR is an expansion. If you thought GR would have enough content to be like a brand new game, then your expectations were astronomically too high.
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"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner
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Yeah I think basically calling a huge % of your player base a bunch of cheaters because you didn't like what they did to your new shiny toy to be morally offensive. I know I get offended when someone calls me a cheat at any game I am playing within its rules. |
Originally Posted by Decorum
I hope the "morally offending his entire playerbase" isn't a reference to AE, because if it is, that's a huge pantload.
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And somebody at NCSoft sure thought that he deserved a demotion. But that may just be because of the number of people who quit after reading his little note to the players. I wonder how much money he personally cost them that fiscal year?
"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner
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Demonstrating a consistent inability to meet a deadline is not SOP in any industry. Replacing poor performers is. Just look at NCSoft's history of killing games that just don't put up the numbers.
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Originally Posted by Decorum
It's a repetitive thing in the entire industry. It's not in the least unusual for a game to pull a feature that doesn't work right for further work. I love how people seem to think that creating video games is like waving some magic wand and everything is perfect. It simply doesn't work like that. You make it, then you test it and find out where it's messed up because just about EVERYTHING is first time around. And sometimes they're a little more broken than is fixable right away.
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"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner
I know it's fun talking about DCUO and how Posi is worse than Hitler, but can you move those discussions to a different part of the forum? This thread is meant to be for discussion the removal of the Alpha slot.
The topics you're discussing can go on endlessly and they'll obscure posts that are on topic.
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"If a system can be exploited, it will be exploited. And if a developer thinks their system cannot be exploited, it'll be exploited like a new actress in her first porn movie." Sanya Weather MMORPG Examiner