Alpha Slot Removed from Going Rogue


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Almost certainly - it's one of the big selling features of GR.
lol something that isn't even being released with GR is a big selling feature? I hope I'm not the only one that this seems messed up to.


 

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Disappointing. I'm not really very excited about 1-20 content. For me it is the least exciting level range in the life of a character.

Oh well.


 

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Closed Beta is going on already?
I've got the pre-bought GR and no e-mail came to me,so how's it going to be the process of invitation?

ps:sry bad english
The invite will come when it comes


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Well, this answers at least in part my question about Incarnate levels/thingies/slots scaling downward - "depends." So the Alpha slot doesn't, but anything past that? We'll see. I'm still interested, definitely!

And I pre-bought GR, but was not and still am not sure how involved I'll be with the Incarnate system, so this really doesn't change much for me.


 

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The invite will come when it comes
And check your spam folder, just in case


 

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Remember, it was originally said that the first of ten "Incarnate Levels" would be included in Going Rogue as a preview for the rest of the system in Issue 19. Not that we'd be getting the entire Incarnate system in Going Rogue. If Issue 19 rolls around and there's still no Incarnate system, then it's a big deal. As it stands, all that's happening is that 1/10th of the system is being moved from Going Rogue to some date in the future because the devs didn't think it was good enough for us. Hardly worth getting too up in arms over.


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Remember, it was originally said that the first of ten "Incarnate Levels" would be included in Going Rogue as a preview for the rest of the system in Issue 19. Not that we'd be getting the entire Incarnate system in Going Rogue. If Issue 19 rolls around and there's still no Incarnate system, then it's a big deal. As it stands, all that's happening is that 1/10th of the system is being moved from Going Rogue to some date in the future because the devs didn't think it was good enough for us. Hardly worth getting too up in arms over.
Definitely. I haven't seen anyone too up in arms yet (it will likely happen though). I know for me the Incarnate system and the 1 level of it attached to the GR release was the main reason I was thinking of picking up GR. I don't care about low levels anymore and side switching has recently lost its appeal to me as I now see it as unnecessary for anything I enjoy (had this come out a couple years ago different story).

I say meh, to this announcement as well and I say meh to GR at this point. It will need an epic feature list to get me excited about it again.


 

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I didn't say I was going to cry and quit the game if the Alpha slot and incarnate system in general never came back, I simply meant that if the reason for it being removed is to make it better, then I have nothing else to say on the subject. I hope it is made more efficient for a future release. I just understood the Alpha slot as being included as a feature WITH Going Rogue, not as a simple preview for beta testers only and no one else. That is what disappoints me the most.

Forgive me if I misheard or misread the way it was mentioned in all the videos and posts made by the Devs. I am certainly not trying to spew forth lies or spam hatred. As it stands, I feel the devs here are more honest than some of the devs elsewhere in games that won't be mentioned here. And at least they come in here and take notes from the player base.


 

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If Issue 19 rolls around and there's still no Incarnate system, then it's a big deal.
Well, I19 is named Incarnates, so if no Incarnate system along with the new Issue, we got a thing, lol.
Hope I19 bring us Incarnate system, more Praetoria content and pools revamp/customization. Last thing much needed, I think.


 

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Lucky666 sees the odd wording:

lol something that isn't even being released with GR is a big selling feature? I hope I'm not the only one that this seems messed up to.
HA! Well, yes, it's a bit odd, but only if you think of GR as "buy it and get this". It does have a future beyond what comes with it.


Dec out.

 

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Okay. Show where the Incarnate system was explained as being included with Going Rogue?
Just for the sake of ending this discussion and moving on, this is ONE of the places where it was said. Here is a video of the table at PAX East where Positron explained the Incarnate system, said the first level would be included in GR, and all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT9O0HM2-QM (start about 6 minutes in for the info in question)


That being said, I fully support the idea of delaying something a little longer if it was not working as expected, ESPECIALLY if it is because it is not allowing us to become as powerful as the devs wanted. I know at one point during a Q&A session Positron said something along the lines of the Incarnate system will make us more powerful...and we're going to need it.

I hope that this does not delay issue 19 from being released sometime near the end of the year, but if it does, oh well.


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I didn't say I was going to cry and quit the game if the Alpha slot and incarnate system in general never came back, I simply meant that if the reason for it being removed is to make it better, then I have nothing else to say on the subject. I hope it is made more efficient for a future release. I just understood the Alpha slot as being included as a feature WITH Going Rogue, not as a simple preview for beta testers only and no one else. That is what disappoints me the most.

Forgive me if I misheard or misread the way it was mentioned in all the videos and posts made by the Devs. I am certainly not trying to spew forth lies or spam hatred. As it stands, I feel the devs here are more honest than some of the devs elsewhere in games that won't be mentioned here. And at least they come in here and take notes from the player base.
It wasn't meant to just be a preview for Beta testers, but as Positron said, the way the testing was going led the Devs to decide to pull it back and wait till more of the system was ready before giving it to us. They thought that giving us just the first level of the Incarnate system would be ok, but then they found out it wasn't going to live up to their standards. Nothing wrong or underhanded with that at all.


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*checks to see if Game Stop will refund pre-order deposit*


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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
Okay. Show where the Incarnate system was explained as being included with Going Rogue?
Positron said at PAX East that the first level would be included in GR.
It's also been part of the advertised features of GR.


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HA! Well, yes, it's a bit odd, but only if you think of GR as "buy it and get this". It does have a future beyond what comes with it.
Well if Incarnates are being delayed to improve them, that's fine. Also Incarnates aren't the main thing to GR, but rather side switching so as long as that and the market merge are ready at launch then all should be well.....as long as side switching doesn't impede one going incarnate


Kind of reminds me of all the old complaints about CoP being a "selling point" to CoV and how some felt cheated at its sudden removal and some even tried claiming false advertising.


 

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ESPECIALLY if it is because it is not allowing us to become as powerful as the devs wanted. I know at one point during a Q&A session Positron said something along the lines of the Incarnate system will make us more powerful...and we're going to need it.
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This. I want any of my 50's that go Incarnate, including my lol-Stalker to become so powerful that they can walk up to Lord Recluse or Statesman and slap them in the face with a gauntlet and say "Let's go, right now!" Upon which they have a one on one battle that is evenly matched.


 

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This. I want any of my 50's that go Incarnate, including my lol-Stalker to become so powerful that they can walk up to Lord Recluse or Statesman and slap them in the face with a gauntlet and say "Let's go, right now!" Upon which they have a one on one battle that is evenly matched.
You're gonna be really disappointed.


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*checks to see if Game Stop will refund pre-order deposit*
You're still going to need a copy of GR to use the Incarnate system


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Well, I19 is named Incarnates, so if no Incarnate system along with the new Issue, we got a thing, lol.
Hope I19 bring us Incarnate system, more Praetoria content and pools revamp/customization. Last thing much needed, I think.
I thought "incarnates" was a working title?

This delay has me more worried about an overall delay of i19 than just the specific delay of the first level of the system. Of course we have no expectation in place of when i19 will arrive so that is information we'd never know. Hopefully it doesn't come too long after GR though.

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Kind of reminds me of all the old complaints about CoP being a "selling point" to CoV and how some felt cheated at its sudden removal and some even tried claiming false advertising.
If they are using it as part of their promotion of the product (in the case of CoP iirc it was on the box even) then people have a legitimate complaint when it is pulled from the final product. Claiming false advertising is for most people the equivalent of claiming a "slap to the face". It's just a way of expressing dissatisfaction to a high degree. They usually don't mean it in the literal sense.


 

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You're still going to need a copy of GR to use the Incarnate system
For now


 

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Disappointing, but I fully support your decision given your reasoning.


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If I understood it well, due to player feedback, the first part of the incarnate system that was going to be released with GR got pushed back to i19.

On one hand, it's a bad news because I was really looking forward to it, on the other I appreciate that the feedback from the beta players got listened to. When it doesnt, really bad things can happen, we've seen that (i13 PvP).

I still hope GR comes with new content, task forces and challenges for level 50 characters. It's what we (our group of friends playing together) have been expected the most.


 

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Well At lease we Still got GR, We can always wait for Issue 19 to get all the incarnate Slots any way, We just have to have Patience.


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