The game is tedious


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Those are beliefs, not opinions.
You need to learn the difference between a belief, an opinion, and an assertion.


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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
"Something believed" may, in fact, turn out to be a fact. For instance: a belief that the earth is round. Indeed, when one holds something to be a belief one is often supposing that it is a fact even if one has no proof. Opinions, on the other hand, are typically regarded as purely subjective appraisals.

Semantics being what they are, your kilometerage may vary.
An opinion can turn out to be fact, just as a belief can. I can have an opinion that turns out to be true, too.

They are pretty much synonyms. An opinion can be wrong, just as a belief can.

These two statements are identical:

I believe the earth is round.

I am of the opinion that the earth is round.


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Originally Posted by Ashtoreth_NA View Post
How terrible of me to suggest this game could be improved.

I think you should probably stop with the animal metaphors.
I dont think the AT's do enough damage. For instance, blasters do way more damage than defenders. I think everyone should do more damage equally, and then raise the damage even more for the at's that do lots of damage, that way, everyone does more damage equally.

I am not interested in slotting for damage, or taking more attacks to do the damage. Nor am I interested in investing in IO's for damage bonuses either. The veteran attacks, as well as the temporary attack powers do nothing to allieviate my perception of doing enough damage, because all the at's have access to those options. I dont think that is fair.

I also have no interest in using the red inspirations to do more damage, because they never drop when you need them, all I get are the stupid blue ones, and it is not like we have a way to combine them or anything to make the one we want.

All the new players complain that they have to run all the way to the next spawn to do more damage, they should have a teleport that ports you to the next spawn immediately so you dont have to wait around not doing damage. In fact, the TP itself should do some damage as well, because thats what my character from randompenandpapergame666 could do, and I want to be able to do that here. I just want to improve the game.


(There are improvements the game needs, and there are tools already in the game for problems people have. If you have no inclination to actually use the tools given to you, dont expect a lot of support for an obsolete request.)


 

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Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
Opinions, on the other hand, are typically regarded as purely subjective appraisals.

Semantics being what they are, your kilometerage may vary.
If only there were a way to prove an opinion through scientific means.... why then it could metamorphosize into a beautifull fact and be peer reviewed and confirmed... Wouldnt it be great to believe an opinion could indeed be proven to be a fact? Nah... too much work... I guess it is kinda crazy how everyones opinion is not received equally. Why I guess some people, who actually take the time, and put some thought into their opinion, and even, test it out a bit have opinions that are actually taken equally seriously as the amount of thought put into it. Guess the flip side of the coin is that if someone does not want to put any work into their opinion, probably shouldn't expect their opinion to be worth much. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but it doesnt mean anyone has to take them as seriously as you do.


 

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Originally Posted by enrious2 View Post
You need to learn the difference between a belief, an opinion, and an assertion.
What makes you think Ultimo_ can learn?


 

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Originally Posted by emberly View Post
what makes you think ultimo_ can learn?
Fatality!


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Wow, this thread is still going? I expected an orbital nuke by now.



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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Ashtoreth: I couldn't figure out where I got "Lord" in your name... then I noticed your sig. Apologies for the braino.
No, thats someone with humor and talent.

I'm just Salieri...


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Salieri taught Beethoven, Lizst and Schubert, he musta known SOMETHING of what he was talking about.
i am asserting that it is my belief that that is your opinion which may or may not be factual.

All i know about asserting that beliefs are merely opinions and only facts when they are my opinions asserted with full belief i learned from Ultimo_.
(Johnny_Putane helped.)


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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
An opinion can turn out to be fact, just as a belief can. I can have an opinion that turns out to be true, too.
Yes, a purely subjective appraisal may turn out to be a fact. But in the meantime it is still a purely subjective appraisal even to the person who holds it.

On the other hand, a belief is typically a fact to the person who holds it even if it is unproven.

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They are pretty much synonyms.
Synonyms aren't always synonymous. Feel free to toss that statement right back at me regarding something I believe I was saying SEVERAL pages ago. I'm just having fun with semantics. I have no real stake in this argument, I just find language and the ensuing quarrels over its meaning amusing sometimes.

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If only there were a way to prove an opinion through scientific means
Sometimes there just isn't. Sometimes a purely subjective appraisal is purely subjective.


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What makes you think Ultimo_ can learn?
You know, I find it oddly sad and depressing that people feel the need to make personal slurs like this, and then pat each other on the back for it. I have said nothing insulting or offensive to you, yet you find it necessary make this kind of thing your main contribution to the thead. What, did I run over your mother or something?

This is a usual pattern. I come in and say I'm done with a thread, and a few individuals come back for a parting insult or two, knowing I will be back to respond to the insults.

Say whatever you like from now on. I am done here, the thread has served its purpose, and some illumination has been achieved. Thank you all.


 

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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
You know, I find it oddly sad and depressing that people feel the need to make personal slurs like this, and then pat each other on the back for it. I have said nothing insulting or offensive to you, yet you find it necessary make this kind of thing your main contribution to the thead. What, did I run over your mother or something?
Because it fits into a standard pattern:

Bad player can't figure out an easy game, whines about wanting a nerf. Is corrected and people offer to help the player become mediocre, that help is ignored. Repeat.

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This is a usual pattern. I come in and say I'm done with a thread, and a few individuals come back for a parting insult or two, knowing I will be back to respond to the insults.
Simple solution: Make good posts.

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Say whatever you like from now on. I am done here, the thread has served its purpose, and some illumination has been achieved. Thank you all.
LOL. The only illumination that's been achieved is the knowledge that despite what I previously thought, this game really is too hard for some people.


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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
Say whatever you like from now on. I am done here, the thread has served its purpose, and some illumination has been achieved. Thank you all.
By historical precedent, this indicates that Ultimo is going to post here at least twice more.


 

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Originally Posted by Talen Lee View Post
By historical precedent, this indicates that Ultimo is going to post here at least twice more.
Or start a new thread in a couple months

He's our own version of Don Quixote, and that, ultimately, is why his threads are so magnificent.


 

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Or start a new thread in a couple months

He's our own version of Don Quixote, and that, ultimately, is why his threads are so magnificent.
I think calling the repetitive drivel he spews a "new thread" is being overly generous. It will be almost exactly the same theme as before, with slightly different verbage. He says:

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I am done here, the thread has served its purpose, and some illumination has been achieved.
But if any illumination had actually been achieved, he would apologize to everyone and never post crap like this again.


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Originally Posted by Ultimo_ View Post
You know, I find it oddly sad and depressing that people feel the need to make personal slurs like this, and then pat each other on the back for it. I have said nothing insulting or offensive to you, yet you find it necessary make this kind of thing your main contribution to the thead. What, did I run over your mother or something?

This is a usual pattern. I come in and say I'm done with a thread, and a few individuals come back for a parting insult or two, knowing I will be back to respond to the insults.

Say whatever you like from now on. I am done here, the thread has served its purpose, and some illumination has been achieved. Thank you all.
You can't go yet. They aren't done tarring and feathering you for the millionth time! You absolutely need your daily dose of bile, to be sure that you are reminded every moment of every day of how much everyone hates you for daring to go against the sacred nerd-dogma!

They will be waiting patiently for you to post again. And when you start another thread, they will immediately pounce with great vengeance and furious anger! It won't even matter what the topic is. You could make a post about how great wheat bread is, and they'll come up a billion reasons why white bread is best and tell each other how much of a troll you are.

Your only safe option is to run away. They hope that you do, and never come back!

Believe it!


 

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And when you start another thread, they will immediately pounce with great vengeance and furious anger! It won't even matter what the topic is. You could make a post about how great wheat bread is, and they'll come up a billion reasons why white bread is best and tell each other how much of a troll you are.
Knowing Ultimo_, he wouldn't post about how great wheat bread is. He'd post that bread slices are too thin. He'd propose that bread slices be made twice as large. People could suggest to him that he just stack two pieces of bread on top of each other, and he'd say no, that's not fair. He shouldn't have to compromise--bread should only be cut twice as large...or you are trolling him.


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It's not so much that Ultimo_ wants his cake and to eat it too, but that he also wants to force said cake on us; even though most of us are happy with the variety of cake we have already...

/e Eats cake slowly so as not to waste all of it in one go...

Managing END before 22 is very simple:
1 ACC TO/DO in each attack power FIRST. A missed attack is END that did nothing.
2 even level END.RED TOs/DOs in all your attacks that cost more than, say... 5 END and at least 1 in each Toggle. Update frequently to at least even level DOs. Buy +2 or +3 DOs if you feel you have the Inf. or a rich pal
Do Not Buy TOs (just slot up whatever drops and you should cope fine).

You wont have much Inf. at any point up to lvl 22, but your Blue Bar will sit steady most of the time unless you're in the SAME battle for more than 4-5mins.
If you're still IN a single spawn for more than 4-5mins anyway, you're doing something wrong... like, oh... I dunno, Intentionally Not Taking Your Attack Powers.

You don't need to complain about no Inf. in levels 21 and under, because... really... What else would you spend it on?

Lastly; Inspirations drop regularly...

USE...
THEM!

the amount of times I try to hand out free Wakey Insps to dead players, or Respites to those with 5-10% health and get the message "This player has no room in his inspirations tray" is starting to grate on me. My pet peev is seeing that big flashy RED sign saying "Inspirations Full".

-=For the record, I find this game Non-Tedious. Thank you for your time=-


 

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[QUOTE=Nanolathe;2967149]Lastly; Inspirations drop regularly...

USE...
THEM!

the amount of times I try to hand out free Wakey Insps to dead players, or Respites to those with 5-10% health and get the message "This player has no room in his inspirations tray" is starting to grate on me. My pet peev is seeing that big flashy RED sign saying "Inspirations Full". /QUOTE]
I'm guilty of not using Inspirations most of the time. Usually, it's because I can go through most fights with out needing them. By the time I realize that I have Inspirations that could help, I've already faceplanted.

Or, I use almost all of them at one time going after the EB (and his groupies).


There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"

 

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You could make a post about how great wheat bread is, and they'll come up a billion reasons why white bread is best
Can't let the thread die without asking what the hell you make white breat out of. Corn?


 

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Can't let the thread die without asking what the hell you make white breat out of. Corn?

Wheat still, but it's bleached and heavily processed as part of the process to turn it into flour. "Wheat" bread is more like "unprocessed wheat bread" to be technical.

<.< >.>

pssst! Dark Rye bread is better than either and gluten free!



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