Mystic Fortune Annoyance


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Funny thing is the de-buff/buff is not a game breaking, play ruining or instant death kind of thing. More posts have been logged here over this "puchased power" than other real game problems (scarey).

My 2 cents, make it a prompt for all buffs like TP prompt. You either get or not (the prompt). Either that or learn to play with buffs given in the spirit they are intended (it's an MMO after all, you know playing with others etc...) or go find yourself a stand alone game to play without other people interacting with you...

Bottom line hating the way other people play/buff/don't buff is fine until you are looking to get a badge for a TF or something that requires more than your solo play!!!

LIVE WITH IT!!!


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Originally Posted by Energy_Aura View Post
My 2 cents, make it a prompt for all buffs like TP prompt. You either get or not (the prompt). Either that or learn to play with buffs given in the spirit they are intended (it's an MMO after all, you know playing with others etc...) or go find yourself a stand alone game to play without other people interacting with you...

Bottom line hating the way other people play/buff/don't buff is fine until you are looking to get a badge for a TF or something that requires more than your solo play!!!

LIVE WITH IT!!!
The Mystic Fortune was first designed with a prompt. That was working as intended. The prompt was removed because of a bug that let people use walk to get several MF buffs at once. That was not working as intended and they removed the prompt while they fixed the bug. Now that the bug is fixed, the put the prompt back as they intended it to have all along. Why am I saying all this? Because I'm going to use your own words and tell you to "LIVE WITH IT!!!"


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They should just remove all targetted, persistent buffs from the game. I mean no one wants to be on the receiving end of one of those annoying buffs! All those flashy graphics effects are going to clash with your costume and character theme anyways. Plus there's the benefit it would make the game slightly harder! So say yes to removal of all targetted buffs. Let's have debuffs and self buffs only!

Say no to SB, ID, CM, force shields, ice shields, fire shields, frostworks and forges! They are poorly designed anyways and last way too long! At most they should absorb just one hit and go down. I mean now they let blasters and other squishies rival scrappers and tankers if someone casts them at them. Blasters and defenders should be squishy and die easily!

Optionally make them all have a prompt so no one has to suffer them. I mean if fortune gets one, shouldn't all buffs get one?


 

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If they insist on keeping the prompt in they need to make it where I can set it to auto-accept. Simple as that. Doing anything less creates and unnecessary nuisance. I do not want that gods damned popup showing up in the middle of combat. It pisses me off.


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Lol...I knew it...

I was so pissed when they re-added the prompt to mystic fortune. I just knew it was because some ragers decided to spam the devs because they are too proud to be getting buffs. Seriously, there isn't a prompt for Increase Density or Speed Boost, there isn't a prompt for Therm shields (which i know sends some computers to hell). There's no prompt for Enforced Morale. These are things that I know some people consider detrimental at times, but we don't see having to prompt every time we get hit by a buff that some raging kid decides they are too good to have or can't stand the little tiny detrimental effect along with the larger improvement. Sure, there are buffs that I don't really like getting, but I'd rather have them than nothing. Maybe your build sucks that you can't deal with a tiny accuracy debuff, but that's your problem, don't make it mine.
Do you know how annoying it is to try to hit "accept" on your prompt durring an AV fight or a big group battle, or while trying to herd? Those are times that having every buff can be a big help, but taking the time to find where the hell my cursor is so I can click my accept button might mess something up.

As others have said, make an auto-accept or auto-reject available. Then we can all be happy.


 

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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
If they insist on keeping the prompt in they need to make it where I can set it to auto-accept. Simple as that. Doing anything less creates and unnecessary nuisance. I do not want that gods damned popup showing up in the middle of combat. It pisses me off.
Rhetorical question I've been dying to ask:

I keep seeing posts (and entire threads) about people hating the prompt because it gets them killed in or otherwise interferes with combat.

Why in six shades of hell would anyone cast this frakkin' power in the middle of combat in the first place? Shouldn't they be either fighting or using their - you know - REAL buffs? The buffs this power gives are pretty spiffy, but they're nothing to write home about compared to the buffs that should be getting thrown around in combat, and any damage dealer that stops fighting long enough to stand like a moron with their hands in the air until I accept or deny their buff which is both random and minimal would kinda make me scratch my head.

It's not the kind of buff that's going to save the day. Can't it wait thirty or forty seconds until the next spawn?

Don't care much about the prompt one way or the other (I was talked into liking the autohit in closed beta). I'm just askin'.


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I had one cast on me as I engaged in combat last night. It happened because the enemies were too close to the door and started attacking almost immediately. Meanwhile the guy with me had activated his fortune power.

While I was stuck in the animation, I was able to move and attack while doing it. It was pretty funny seeing my martial artist slide over to the Warhulk and attack it by throwing her hands forward in a sort of double-downward slap.

(my opinion is that I liked not being prompted but it's nothing to get upset over)


 

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Just because people don't like it doesn't mean that not having the prompt was working as intended. The reason the prompt was there was because the buff lasted 20 minutes. Rather than crying about the prompt coming back people should spend that energy on getting them to and the Autobuff/Autoreject/Prompt option. After that no one will have a reason to come here and cry about having to click the prompt or having someone do a buff drive-by.


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Originally Posted by DocArcus View Post
Rather than crying about the prompt coming back people should spend that energy...
I think you vastly overestimate the amount of energy it takes to say you dislike the prompt.


 

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Originally Posted by Slashman View Post
To be clear here(and I didn't think I needed to be any more clear...but OK), I don't want Mystic Fortune to go away. I do not want buffing to go away. I can live with(don't really like, but can live with) the usual drive-by buffs that people normally throw around.

I have not asked, nor did I intend to ask that all buffs have the option to be rejected.

My only request is that we are given the option to reject only Mystic Fortune. And failing the feasibility of that, then let us delete the buff just as we used to delete the buffs gotten from Safeguards and Mayhems. That's it. People can continue to drive by buff as they have been since forever. People can buff people to the roof in WW or the Black Market just like before.

The ability to delete the buff seems like the smartest solution. The reject option can stay disabled and then everyone wins. I never called for any other changes.

I'm trying to understand why someone asking for this turns out to be such a big deal. It really isn't.
Completely agree.


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I think you vastly overestimate the amount of energy it takes to say you dislike the prompt.

I only said that because people keep saying that it was the people that didn't like the prompt that cried to the Devs so they put it back. Posting that you like something or don't like something takes the same effort. It was just my way of pointing out that the people that are complaining now are acting the same way as the people that they keeps saying were crying about not having the prompt.


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Originally Posted by DocArcus View Post
I only said that because people keep saying that it was the people that didn't like the prompt that cried to the Devs so they put it back. Posting that you like something or don't like something takes the same effort. It was just my way of pointing out that the people that are complaining now are acting the same way as the people that they keeps saying were crying about not having the prompt.
AKA, oh the irony.


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Originally Posted by Slashman View Post
Can someone please enlighten me as to why Mystic Fortune was made so I cannot reject it? Why take away the choice of the player?

I generally HATE drive-by buffers. Especially so if I'm soloing and want to gauge the performance of my toon without inspirations etc. Why would I want someone to arbitrarily place a buff on me at that point? Why can I not at least delete the power if I don't want it?

How was this change deemed an improvement?

I just got The Fool cast on me by a random player and I spent 20 minutes running around a mission like I was on crack when that was the LAST thing I wanted. Is there an option to turn those buffs off in the options menu that I missed?

Removing my right to choose if I want a 20 minute buff cast on me or not seems like a pretty invasive thing to do.
Well Slashman, I now have the Mystic Fortune power. Come on over and I will read your fortune.

Over all I agree with Slashman, but the drive by buffs I never saw reason to complain about. Though nowm they have to accept them so people should be happy/


 

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I find all this somewhat amusing, having been a veteran of many anti-SB campaigns here in the past. During those, we had what felt like 500 people posting very vituperative variants of the following:

"OMG! Is there something wrong with you who don't like SB? Are you retarded [yup... this has actually been said]? Do you have [insert physical ailment here]? Obviously you are/do, because only an idiot could fail to adapt to SB! There is simply nothing to it! ADAPT!! Why are you whining EVERYONE STOP WHINING! If you don't like SB you are obviously [insert expletives, flames and negative concepts here]! Plus you are OBVIOUSLY trying to run the game on a Commodore 64! You're just stupid. PLUS YOUR HANDS DON'T WORK RIGHT! Learn to ADAPT!"

Many things just that mean, and worse, were flung at people who are guilty of the high crime of not wanting to be SBed in cave, or not wanting to be SBed while standing at the market bidding on an Alchemical Silver.

Now we have people having to deal with one little prompt. Many of this exact same group are now all, "OMG we have a prompt and I can't deal with it! Its making me lag! Its getting me killed! Oh no no no! Make it stop!"

What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: I say unto thee, Adapt.


 

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Originally Posted by Bad_Influence View Post
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: I say unto thee, Adapt.
You know for a fact that that's not what's being said/meant.

In relation to Speed Boost:

Don't like speed boost? Alright. Tell the team, "Please no Speed Boost. (Insert_reason_here)" If you're still getting Speed Boost, send a tell to the offender. If you're still getting it, politely tell the leader. If nothing happens, quit the team. Now, if you're being INTENTIONALLY bombarded, targetted specifically and you KNOW it, file a petition, write a note, one star him, ignore him, then leave the team.

The biggest issue with the above is that the problem is coming from another player, and everyone knows it. You can either ignore the issue or do what you can to not have to deal with it, which involves telling the person in question to cease casting of said power. Both are forms of adapting, but fact is, Speed Boost CAN be infuriating, I know.

In relation to Mystic Fortune:

As said already a hundred times by now, while people like Mystic Fortune, it's annoying to have to deal with the prompt. Sometimes, it's more then an annoyance where, just like Speed Boost, can lead to infuriating situations. For instance: Your character getting killed because you've become destracted/you've lost control.

People like the benefits of speed boost. The +recharge friggin' rocks. Just not everyone likes the +speed due to certain issues. Similarly, people like Mystic Fortune, but the prompt is an issue for people in the same way. I like Mystic Fortune, just not the prompt. However, unlike Speed Boost, the issue with the annoyance is the UI, not the power. Hence the request for change, an alternative to please everyone. You can't do that with Speed boost because getting rid of the +speed with tick someone off whether it was intended or not.

We'll adapt, but it's not unreasonable to speak up. We want the option to auto-accept/auto-decline for Mystic Fortune because it will ultimately please both parties.


 

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Originally Posted by Bad_Influence View Post
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: I say unto thee, Adapt.
yes, because application of one of the very best buffs in the entire game from someone playing a /kin is the same as a random minor effect that any character in the game can have in their power tray.


I can't remember the last time a random stranger SB'ed me at the market.
On the other hand these days it's a rarity to check my bids without someone trying to read my fortune.


Neither buff annoys me. Pretending they're comparable is a joke.


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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
Pretending they're comparable is a joke.
They are somewhat comparable. See my post for an example (Assuming you can read it).


 

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They are somewhat comparable. See my post for an example (Assuming you can read it).
one is a massive game changing buff available to a specific powerset, the other is a random minor effect available to any character in the game with a spare ten bucks.

I suppose they're comparable in that one player is applying an effect to another, but that's about it.


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Lilly: I like Mystic Fortune, just not the prompt. However, unlike Speed Boost, the issue with the annoyance is the UI, not the power. Hence the request for change, an alternative to please everyone. You can't do that with Speed boost because getting rid of the +speed with tick someone off whether it was intended or not.
My point was this: that Speed Boost is a far, far greater annoyance to some people than Mystic Fortune could ever be, yet that was angrily dismissed as being an unworthwhile complaint - while one little prompt is being hailed as The Worst Thing Ever, and a thing some people just cannot work around.

I prefer the prompt. This prevents me from getting bad fortunes multiple times in a row [happens, unfortunately]. The prompt does not interfere with my combat, taking less than one second to click.

I am 100% fine with an accept/decline option being added for Mystic Fortune. I am just amused that some of the "superior reflexes" crowd is now howling that OMG, clicking a little box in the middle of combat is breaking their game. Haha! That does not sound too superior to me


 

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My point was this: that Speed Boost is a far, far greater annoyance to some people than Mystic Fortune could ever be......
Nice to see your long vacation from the forums hasn't reduced your capacity for posting total gibberish.

*thumbsup*

looking forward to your defending this completely invalid "point" to the death, or at least until you get so thoroughly trounced you *poof* vanish for another six months or so until you think people have forgotten.


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We really don't need to give the moderators any particular reason to lock this thread.

No fighting. M'kay?


 

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We really don't need to give the moderators any particular reason to lock this thread.

No fighting. M'kay?
I'm sure BI has me on ignore after the last thrashing I delivered on free vs pay costume bits.

But I like to make sure newbies know her racket.


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I am just amused that some of the "superior reflexes" crowd is now howling that OMG, clicking a little box in the middle of combat is breaking their game. Haha! That does not sound too superior to me
sheesh. Get over yourself. Some people dislike the prompt. You're the one trying to make it a referendum on coolness or something.


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sheesh. Get over yourself. Some people dislike the prompt. You're the one trying to make it a referendum on coolness or something.
I just find it amusing that there has been this level of flap over the Mystic Fortune prompt, when so many people scream "shut up!" so loudly anytime anyone else asks for a prompt for other stuff.

I think the shouters should take their own advice, given in other "can we have a prompt or an accept/decline for [x]?" threads, and "adapt!" LOL