Speed Boost? Yes/No

Of the people who don't like Speed Boost . . . how many of you never take Super Speed as a travel power? It seems to me that there are two complaints; (a) casting SB is too much of a pain in the tail, mostly because it only has a 2 minute duration, and (b) receiving Speed Boost makes your character too fast to handle, or if you have a low-end computer, can cause lag.

Probably about 40% of my characters have Super Speed. I have had plenty of practice handling my characters with fast run speed. Especially with Flying characters, I appreciate the opportunity to run fast when my usual travel power is so slow. Plus, I get around in missions much faster. And why would anyone complain about buffs in Recovery or Recharge?

As for whether the buff is needed, a few people have said, "Just use Transference!" . . . Transference is not a good substitue for ranged characters. Staying out of the fray protects me from melee and AoE attacks centered on the melee characters. Getting close enough for Transference will expose my ranged characters to danger when Speed Boost would let them say at range. Kinetics is a great set for buffing melee characters, but characters who prefer to stay at range can only get SB and ID (and maybe Siphon Power if near the caster).

Yank?

Being from the deep south my whole life, I can't help but grin at the thought of being a 'yank' I'm closer to redneck than yankee. :P

If you feel like a purp'd out Kin with Fulcrum Shift, Transference, Inertial Density and the Siphon's, Recall friend, Aid other, not to mention the heal
As well as properly slotted blasts is useless because of 1. missing power. Well sir, I'm glad you'd kick me.
Wouldn't want to team with someone with such limited imagination anyways.

I expect a Kin to have it, but i dont expect him to use it on every player all the time. If one member is struggling to keep up (stone tank for example) i expect that member to be buffed.

But mostly i expect the Kin to have SB avaliable for tough boss fights, keeping a 8-man team SB'd a whole TF is tedious (but not that hard, i like to keep team perma-SB'd on the rare occasions i play kin) but just having it for when the team actually needs it is a great help (Recluse, States, Hero1, Rom etc.).

I cant come up with any decent excuse for NOT having it if you join any end-game TF. I would rather have a Kin with SO's and SB on my team than a Pimped out Kin full of purples without it.

There are dual builds, if you dont want it solo get a team build with it, even with just SO's it will still be preferable. And if it is to hard to keep it on everyone use it on thoose that really need it and use it in tough fights.

Thats his point.
If a Kin doesn't have SB then he auto-magically assumes they are
"Terrible"

He doesn't want to find out if he's wrong and you know what. He's not.
It's his choice.
Personally, I find it very... limiting, but thats how he chooses to play.
He's not alone, sad to say.

I've never understood this mindset of X AT must have Y power.
Yes some powers are great to have, others are situational at best.

As listed above, my own reasons for dropping SB may not apply to everyone. As an aside. My dual build does still have it. Simply because my duo partner likes having it.

Just didn't feel like playing the 'Crack Dealer' on every single team.

I wouldn't presume to tell somebody else how to build their toon. I think that is arrogant in the extreme. Unless you are willing to pay their monthly subs, then keep your build nazi opinions to yourself.

Personally I don't really like being SB'd - I prefer to control when I want to move fast and when I don't. And I'm willing to sacrifice the extra recharge for it. I don't really care if it takes our group a minute or two longer to clear a map.

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Originally Posted by SiGGy I'd honestly love to, but thankfully I'm not on the American servers and useless players aren't too common on the EU. While SB isn't my favourite buff around, it's certainly damn good enough for every Kinetics character around to grab and if they don't, then they're either not team-players, are in a solo build or are simply just terrible people.

I'd say skipping SB is a small price to pay to not be teamed with you.

Guys I can't control my toon if you SB me, so please don't.

ugh I hate seeing that from someone I SB.

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Originally Posted by Nights_Dawn Hazy is right

Kinetics has been relegated to the same boat as FF, Thermal, Cold and Sonic. I hate how periodic team buffs work in this game. To me, personally, it is nothing but added tedium to have to constantly recast buffs, especially on 7 other people.

What I would LOVE to see is most buffs get the MM treatment, increase the end cost proportionally to the team size and just cast it once that is applied to everyone.

This has nothing to do with the pros/cons of SB. It just happens to be the worst offender in the duration/recast cycle that people, generally, REALLY want. My hunch is that people who don't want to take SB also don't want to be buffbots. Does that hurt the team? Sure. I abide by Joshua's advice for tick-tack-toe.

"The only winning move is not to play"

I've said it before. And I'll say it again. The problem with KINs who don't take it (and if you don't want to, don't) is they'll advertise themself as KINS, knowing full well that people will invite them to the team EXPECTING them to have SB, when they can easily say...

Lvl 40 KIN, no Speed Boost, lft

and in their lft description

AR/KIN no Speed Boost

Instead they'll just say...

Lvl 40 KIN lft OR AR/KIN (in their description).

The same thing goes for toons with Bubble Secondaries (Thermal/Force Fields/Cold Dom/Sonic).

Fine, you don't want to take the powers. At least let them know BEFORE you go lft.

Surely you all know that if you're forced to control a speed run while on Speed Boost (in a cave for example) you simply turn on a jetpack to slow yourself down. And add Ninja Run if you need the extra steerage.