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Same, though I put 10 influence.
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Originally Posted by Spinomania
I sell everything for 5 inf, except purple recipes.
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and I sell everything for 1 inf. Because I'm too lazy to look for another number to press.
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I'm running afoul of the language here. What I'm saying is that I don't "get" it, in the sense that I'd never do it and would never put myself in a position where it was preferable for me to do it. It's just not how I roll. This is, obviously, highly subjective and not very fair, and that was THE POINT. Because it doesn't matter either way. I don't want to meddle in people's business and I don't have to "get" what they're doing. BECAUSE the game allows me to do just fine without having to meddle in other people's business is why I feel that the request in the OP is absurd.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
So... do you get it, or don't you? I'm lost.
To some people, clearing the inventory space quickly is more important than making profit. Selling on the market results in a smaller loss compared to simply deleting the item. |
I don't get it. So? It doesn't come up when I sell.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm running afoul of the language here. What I'm saying is that I don't "get" it, in the sense that I'd never do it and would never put myself in a position where it was preferable for me to do it. It's just not how I roll. This is, obviously, highly subjective and not very fair, and that was THE POINT. Because it doesn't matter either way. I don't want to meddle in people's business and I don't have to "get" what they're doing. BECAUSE the game allows me to do just fine without having to meddle in other people's business is why I feel that the request in the OP is absurd.
I don't get it. So? It doesn't come up when I sell. |
And Forbin has pretty much summed it up as well
Youz guyz are actually in agreement
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Don't worry Sam, you and I have no problems. I was just sharing the way I look at the market and why I sell my drops and items I craft for cheap prices.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Please don't interpret this the wrong way, because it actually reaffirms what you're saying - I don't actually CARE why people list things for less than they're worth on the Market. That's not to say that I don't WANT to know, but merely to say that I don't NEED to know in order to enjoy it. If I see a cheap item on the Market, I enjoy it. Whether it's charity, a mistake, a sacrifice to the gods or cleaning house, it honestly doesn't change the fact that it's a bargain and I'll take it.
The main point was to say that even if I don't get it, myself, I don't really HAVE to, as I absolutely accept that people do this. Their time, their Inf, their call. It's not my place to criticise. And, really, if someone's undercutting prices, I'll sell something else. If that someone can keep undercutting prices in general, that I may not end up as rich, but it means I won't NEED to be as rich when it comes time to buy, because I'll buy off him. I've no idea how that would work out in a real-world economy where you actually have to worry about its stability, but in a game I'm perfectly happy just looking after myself and letting God and the Marketeers sort out the economy. |
Aside from our selling preferences I think you and I pretty much share the same opinions about how other people use the market and how it affects us as individuals.
Edit: Uhm What Impish Kat said.
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Originally Posted by Westley
and I sell everything for 1 inf. Because I'm too lazy to look for another number to press.
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Wes, you have no idea how close I came to saying the same thing.
I generally sell everything for 1 inf. In fact, I'm not sure if I've really ever listed higher, except for misclicks. Although I think I may have listed for 5 for a short while, but then I realized that I just didn't care if I actually lose out on the deal, or something.
Sometimes I try to be charitable and supply the market a bit... but for the most part, I'm just really lazy. Hasn't stopped me from becoming richer than I need to be on nearly all my main characters. Funny, that...
If I'm working on badges, I don't care what I sell the IOs for. My end goal is a badge, not tons of inf. I hope that I at least get why I paid to make it, but I wont get mad if I don't. I'm sure there are lots of people that were very happy that I and the people like me were selling this so cheap. It lets the non-farmer and non-WW marketeer outfit their toons at a price they can afford.
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I could care less.
My main has Field Crafter so I supply my supergroup's need. If the paltry 200,000 influence (I make as much sneezing or powdering my nose) gets someone's knickers in a knot, more power to them.
In fact, perhaps I'll list the free recipes I get from my Ouroboros day job for 11 influence, just to spread some goodwill. Huzzah!
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Originally Posted by Knightie
This is an open message to anyone prepared to sell basic IOs in Wentworth for very little profit.
In particular I'll address the most used level 50 basic IO - Recharge. Selling level 50 recharge IOs for 300,000 or less is IMO not very clever. At the rate you're earning (only accounting for the time you actually spend making the enhancements and posting them) you'd be far far better off spending your time doing task forces for merits (and inf) and then spending the merits on Miracle +Recovery IOs and selling them for around 200 million a shot. What you're doing is a relative waste of your time. You'll find players will pay 400,000 and even if you aren't the only one selling at that price you'll still be getting a much better return on your investment of time. PS. If your intention is to undercut everyone else trying to make a reasonable profit, to drive us out of the market so you can then raise your prices and still have the whole market then you can forget it, because I'm not going anywhere (and I very much doubt I'm the only one). I'm going to keep checking the prices in Wentworth, forcing you to grind away your time as that's the only way you're going to keep me from making a reasonable profit from my time. You want to work at this like it's a real job? Be my guest. It's your time to waste. When I'm not checking the market I'll be the one doing TFs and making your rate of return look pathetic. |
Seriously mate- check the sig.
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I put everything on the market for 5 inf each. Doesn't matter if it's a piece of salvage or a purple recipe. I don't care about making a profit because I don't feel a need to ultra io out any of my characters. I regard it as playing a game of roulette. If it's a huge payout then yay for me. If I only get 5 inf then double yay for the lucky player who put up a 5 inf bid and got something they never thought they would.
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The problem is "random acts of kindness", badgers, and many others make up the pool of people undercutting your profit. You presume that people are making these IO's for profit rather than the convenience of clearing out salvage and recipe spots. Convenience is my number one reason for doing so. After I've filled the sg bins, the rest goes on the market at a low price so I have room for more drops and market space for transactions that I'm actually concerned with.
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Originally Posted by Knightie
I'm not talking about random acts of kindness, I'm not talking about dumping stuff on the market that was made for badges. Did I suggest for one second that stuff like that doesn't happen? No. Did my original message seem even remotely like I was talking to you if that's why you post stuff cheap?
I'm talking to the person who's treating this like a poorly paid job, who's churning off cheap IOs like they're in a sweat-shop. I'm not telling you that manufacturing IOs to make influence is a bad thing. I'm just suggesting that you might want to make a reasonable profit out of it. |
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If they are, they're wasting their time, because you can already buy almost all lvl 50 common IOs for 15,000 inf, if you leave a bid for a day or two. Unless people are going to stand on street corners throwing IOs in the air like confetti, I'm not sure how they could get much cheaper.|
Originally Posted by Umber
I could use a few more LotGs, think I'll post a thread complaining about their too-low prices to see if folks will flood the market out of spite.
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Dear OP: If you're determined to make your fortune crafting common IOs, why are you bothering with 50s? Especially Recharge IOs, which are vastly oversupplied because the ingredients are cheaper than dirt and the only other option for that crafting badge is making Interrupt IOs. Drop down a few levels to where the profit margins are better.
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Vendor price for a L50 generic recipe, give or take.
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Originally Posted by EU_Damz
I craft and sell generic IOs and put them up for 10inf automatically, whats 100k these days? A boss kill or something?
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To the OP: if you are selling generic IOs as a way to make money, you are truly wasting your time. There are much, much better ways to make money. All my generic IO recipes go straight to the vendor (if its convenient at the time), or for 1 inf on the market. The ONLY good reason to craft them is for the badge or for yourself.
If you like, send me a PM and I'll show you how to make millions in a very short time. Heck, it's pretty easy to get to a few hundred thousand on a level 1 without crafting anything.
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Some weeks ago I actually tested this. I started in Outbreak, because I wanted the two large inspirations you get there to get some starting capital. I sold these for like 100k or so and started buying recipes cheap and selling them to the vendor for some profit. To get more recipe and salvage room and more slots at WW, I joined a sewers team and made it to level 10 (because it was annoying and tedious with the limited storage you have at L2). Then I went back to WW and started buying, selling, sometimes crafting or converting stuff before selling the result. I was up to 56 million influence after three days (I logged only a few hours with the toon - including the sewers run, but the breaks helped to fill bids). It's really easy and the more influence you have the easier it gets.
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Originally Posted by TheSwamper
Heck, it's pretty easy to get to a few hundred thousand on a level 1 without crafting anything.
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Originally Posted by Knightie
This is an open message to anyone prepared to sell basic IOs in Wentworth for very little profit.
In particular I'll address the most used level 50 basic IO - Recharge. Selling level 50 recharge IOs for 300,000 or less is IMO not very clever. At the rate you're earning (only accounting for the time you actually spend making the enhancements and posting them) you'd be far far better off spending your time doing task forces for merits (and inf) and then spending the merits on Miracle +Recovery IOs and selling them for around 200 million a shot. What you're doing is a relative waste of your time. You'll find players will pay 400,000 and even if you aren't the only one selling at that price you'll still be getting a much better return on your investment of time. PS. If your intention is to undercut everyone else trying to make a reasonable profit, to drive us out of the market so you can then raise your prices and still have the whole market then you can forget it, because I'm not going anywhere (and I very much doubt I'm the only one). I'm going to keep checking the prices in Wentworth, forcing you to grind away your time as that's the only way you're going to keep me from making a reasonable profit from my time. You want to work at this like it's a real job? Be my guest. It's your time to waste. When I'm not checking the market I'll be the one doing TFs and making your rate of return look pathetic. |
This is an open message to anyone using Earths atmosphere in its current chemical composition.
In particular I'll address the most used component of the atmosphere, its 20.946% oxygen.
Living in an atmosphere composed of 20.946% oxygen is not very clever. At the rate youre breathing (only accounting for the time and energy you actually spend inhaling and exhaling) youd be far far better off breathing concentrated bottled oxygen than this mix of mostly inert gases you have to inhale about 600 million times in a lifetime.
What youre doing is a relative waste of your time. You'll find animals who can hold their breath for a very long time and animals with slower metabolisms who breathe hundreds of thousands of times fewer than you do -- if you had a lower metabolism or breathed a mixture much richer in oxygen, you could be getting a much better return on your investment of time.
PS. If your intention is to breathe the air everyone else is breathing and keep a reasonable metabolism, to drive other life forms out of the environment so you can then raise the oxygen content and have the whole planet then you can forget it, because Im not going anywhere (and I very much doubt Im the only aerobic life form on Earth). Im going to keep metabolizing atmospheric oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide and other gases, forcing you to grind away with your lungs and diaphragm trying to compete for the same resources. You want to work at this like it's a real job? Be my guest. It's your time to waste. When I'm not inhaling, I'll be the one exhaling and making your rate of respiration look pathetic.
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So.... are you calling him a mouth breather?
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I’m going to keep metabolizing atmospheric oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide and other gases,
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I list not only generic IO's but a lot of salvage for $1.
I guess I'm wrong according to the OP
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
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Well from what I understand Wentworth's is failing so Paragon City is planning to take funds out of the public influence savings and buy the majourity of the auction house since it's too big to fail. Then finally we'll have decent prices through the auction system since the city government knows better than the seller on how much their items are worth and how much to ask for them.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
How's about you let people do as they please? You don't want them to waste their time selling low, so I could be wasting my time NOT buying from the market? I can't support this.
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Well from what I understand Wentworth's is failing so Paragon City is planning to take funds out of the public influence savings and buy the majourity of the auction house since it's too big to fail. Then finally we'll have decent prices through the auction system since the city government knows better than the seller on how much their items are worth and how much to ask for them.
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Isn't there a thread where you should be posting a Christina Hendricks pic in?
I'm not quite sure I get what this thread is about - someone's crafting stuff and selling it for a small profit?
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In particular I'll address the most used level 50 basic IO - Recharge.
Selling level 50 recharge IOs for 300,000 or less is IMO not very clever. At the rate you're earning (only accounting for the time you actually spend making the enhancements and posting them) you'd be far far better off spending your time doing task forces for merits (and inf) and then spending the merits on Miracle +Recovery IOs and selling them for around 200 million a shot.
What you're doing is a relative waste of your time. You'll find players will pay 400,000 and even if you aren't the only one selling at that price you'll still be getting a much better return on your investment of time.
PS. If your intention is to undercut everyone else trying to make a reasonable profit, to drive us out of the market so you can then raise your prices and still have the whole market then you can forget it, because I'm not going anywhere (and I very much doubt I'm the only one). I'm going to keep checking the prices in Wentworth, forcing you to grind away your time as that's the only way you're going to keep me from making a reasonable profit from my time. You want to work at this like it's a real job? Be my guest. It's your time to waste. When I'm not checking the market I'll be the one doing TFs and making your rate of return look pathetic.
Usually I'll be like this...
"Oh I see at least 21 people want this generic IO recipe!"
*hop over to university and buy said recipes*
*return to WW and sell for 10 influence a pop*
*get a nice chunk out of my sold so many items badge*
I also do this with the generic lvl 50 recipes I get off missions/TFs/what have you, and put them on the market for 10 influence a pop, just to sell them quickly and get even more notches on the badge
And personally, I would think people would want people selling items for less. Why would you be saying you want people to sell things for MORE?
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