Issue 19: Incarnates
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-03-27 09:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Which is sorta what they were getting at. I18 would be the side-along issue, and i19 would be the bits that needed a little more time, and bringing the expansion level with the existing content.|
Originally Posted by Scootertwo
i6 corresponded with CoV i7 was 41-50 for villains.
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Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
But seriously, "Incarnates?" Does not work for me at all.
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I know - What I'm saying is that i19 will 'finish off' GR, just how i7 finished off coV.
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
i6 corresponded with CoV i7 was 41-50 for villains.
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I19 is basically GR: Part Two - you'll need to buy GR to access the Incarnate endgame content in I19 - so if you don't have GR, then I19 is gonna seem kinda content-lite |
Originally Posted by Orion_Star_EU
I know - What I'm saying is that i19 will 'finish off' GR, just how i7 finished off coV.
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@Golden Girl
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Well, we might have to travel to the Well of the Furies to start off the endgame process |
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
I don't mind this system, I'll probably participate in it, and in particular the idea of it being tied into new zone events really catches my eye. On the other hand? I really hate the name. In all of the lore to date, it's impossible for anyone of any other origin to become an Incarnate. Incarnates are incarnate at their origin, that is to say, they got their powers directly from the Well of the Furies.
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@Golden Girl
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I kinda like that idea GG
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They set the groundwork for this with the "all Origins are interconnected" stuff in the Origin of Power arc.|
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
I don't mind this system, I'll probably participate in it, and in particular the idea of it being tied into new zone events really catches my eye. On the other hand? I really hate the name. In all of the lore to date, it's impossible for anyone of any other origin to become an Incarnate. Incarnates are incarnate at their origin, that is to say, they got their powers directly from the Well of the Furies.
Or I'm open to other suggestions. But seriously, "Incarnates?" Does not work for me at all. |
Honestly I don't see the big deal. Statesman and Recluse are not such memorable characters that making their "gimmick" available to everyone risks losing anything important. And I'm kind of used to ignoring large chunks of fluff text ever since the whole AE thing.
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As far as we know, anyway. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I19 is basically GR: Part Two - you'll need to buy GR to access the Incarnate endgame content in I19 - so if you don't have GR, then I19 is gonna seem kinda content-lite
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I19, to me, reads as 'End Game stuff for GR...and the other stuff'
Needless to say, we'll need to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Well, it'll have some other stuff for sure, but the bulk of the endgame content being in it means that that will be the focus of the Issue for |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
As far as we know, anyway.
I19, to me, reads as 'End Game stuff for GR...and the other stuff' Needless to say, we'll need to wait and see. |
@Golden Girl
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My...concern...over the Incarnates system is what the actual worth of it be. Will it just be global boosts to damage/resistance/etc and thus simply be APP Part 2 or will it actually do something unique with the character allowing you to open up the playstyle?
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Well, I think it'll probably invole a new /e faintinterror emote for any gray enemies when you turn your avatar to look at them.
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
My...concern...over the Incarnates system is what the actual worth of it be. Will it just be global boosts to damage/resistance/etc and thus simply be APP Part 2 or will it actually do something unique with the character allowing you to open up the playstyle?
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@Golden Girl
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, I think it'll probably invole a new /e faintinterror emote for any gray enemies when you turn your avatar to look at them.
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Im waiting for my chance to take down a Rikti Mothership...we can do that right?
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I wonder if we will get [Purple Triangles of Doom]
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Yes - we'll be allowed to hurl them onto residential areas, which will pave the way for revamping the zones into a single city zone with newer building models.
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Originally Posted by Anti_Proton
Im waiting for my chance to take down a Rikti Mothership...we can do that right?
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@Golden Girl
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I call Skyway.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Yes - we'll be allowed to hurl them onto residential areas, which will pave the way for revamping the zones into a single city zone with newer building models.
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Me thought you call StormSurvivor?
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I call Skyway.
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@Golden Girl
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I call dibs on dropping one on top of Perez.
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I call Boomtown...wait...am I doing it wrong?
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Yes - we'll be allowed to hurl them onto residential areas, which will pave the way for revamping the zones into a single city zone with newer building models.
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Possibly - I don't think anyone would actually notice a difference if a mothership crashed there |
Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano
I call Boomtown...wait...am I doing it wrong?
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@Golden Girl
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Aye, I'll agree with this. In the game lore, it's mentioned that there was once a 6th Origin, but that it's been "lost". That 6th Origin was Incarnate. Technically, you can't become an Incarnate unless you start as an Incarnate, just like you can't start as a Science Origin character, and then become a Natural Origin character.|
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
Over and over again, they've said "We will never raise the level cap." Technically, they're keeping this promise, if the 10 Incarnate levels don't raise your base stats. But only technically.
I don't mind this system, I'll probably participate in it, and in particular the idea of it being tied into new zone events really catches my eye. On the other hand? I really hate the name. In all of the lore to date, it's impossible for anyone of any other origin to become an Incarnate. Incarnates are incarnate at their origin, that is to say, they got their powers directly from the Well of the Furies. I saw in the cellphone-cam video from the PAX East panel that Positron said that it was what "we're currently calling" it. Does that mean that you're at all open to suggestions for a different name? Because if you are, my nomination is "Signature Hero" and "Arch Villain." After all, in game mechanics terms, what separates a level 50 (or above, but you know what I mean) signature hero or arch villain from a mere elite boss (the current in-game NPC equivalent of a player character) is that they have powers not ordinarily available to others, either because they're reserved for signature heroes and arch villains and giant monsters (like the Purple Triangles of Doom) or because they're powers not typically offered to that archetype. So saying that people who buy Going Rogue, reach level 50, and participate in the new end game system "become Incarnates" makes no sense, but saying that they become "signature characters" fits the game lore perfectly. Or I'm open to other suggestions. But seriously, "Incarnates?" Does not work for me at all. |
At least... not yet... >.>
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Seems like we'll be getting brand new incarnate powers, although I don't hold my breath just yet. Something tells me signature powers are not so much of a wild dream now (given that having signature powers is what separates AVs from mere EBs).|
Originally Posted by Zamuel
My...concern...over the Incarnates system is what the actual worth of it be. Will it just be global boosts to damage/resistance/etc and thus simply be APP Part 2 or will it actually do something unique with the character allowing you to open up the playstyle?
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PS: Inb4 "Mothership soloer" threads appear everywhere
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Bit of both, maybe? I'm just wondering if there'll be any sort of SSK-type system for the Incarnate levels as well or not. Will they only be effective in certain situations? Possible drawbacks to go with them? Will bonuses be ED compliant (which could seriously free up slots)? I could be wrong but it seems like the devs put a lot of work into getting things about at the power-levels they're generally at now, so I don't see them wanting throw a big wrench into that.|
Originally Posted by Zamuel
My...concern...over the Incarnates system is what the actual worth of it be. Will it just be global boosts to damage/resistance/etc and thus simply be APP Part 2 or will it actually do something unique with the character allowing you to open up the playstyle?
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I'm personally hoping for more IO's to come out at the same time that give Procs, Chance to's, power perks, etc. That's be pretty darn awesome, methinks
The sooner I can cover my "basics" the sooner I can get to playing, y'know?
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Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Aye, I'll agree with this. In the game lore, it's mentioned that there was once a 6th Origin, but that it's been "lost". That 6th Origin was Incarnate. Technically, you can't become an Incarnate unless you start as an Incarnate, just like you can't start as a Science Origin character, and then become a Natural Origin character.
At least... not yet... >.> |
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Originally Posted by RosaQuartz
Probably safe to say it'll be Issue 18: Going Rogue, but who knows? I kinda like "Along Came A Tyrant",
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Kinetic Melee looks like fun.
Man, I'm not going to be able to get my hands on some cash to re-sub and buy Going Rogue quick enough.
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Over and over again, they've said "We will never raise the level cap." Technically, they're keeping this promise, if the 10 Incarnate levels don't raise your base stats. But only technically.
I don't mind this system, I'll probably participate in it, and in particular the idea of it being tied into new zone events really catches my eye. On the other hand? I really hate the name. In all of the lore to date, it's impossible for anyone of any other origin to become an Incarnate. Incarnates are incarnate at their origin, that is to say, they got their powers directly from the Well of the Furies.
I saw in the cellphone-cam video from the PAX East panel that Positron said that it was what "we're currently calling" it. Does that mean that you're at all open to suggestions for a different name? Because if you are, my nomination is "Signature Hero" and "Arch Villain." After all, in game mechanics terms, what separates a level 50 (or above, but you know what I mean) signature hero or arch villain from a mere elite boss (the current in-game NPC equivalent of a player character) is that they have powers not ordinarily available to others, either because they're reserved for signature heroes and arch villains and giant monsters (like the Purple Triangles of Doom) or because they're powers not typically offered to that archetype. So saying that people who buy Going Rogue, reach level 50, and participate in the new end game system "become Incarnates" makes no sense, but saying that they become "signature characters" fits the game lore perfectly.
Or I'm open to other suggestions. But seriously, "Incarnates?" Does not work for me at all.