Things that are more difficult redside, and hence more fun.
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Posted on: 2010-02-10 13:25 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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That's funny right there.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
But if they're harmless, then we're no danger to them
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Hang on, let's go back a bit, you said:
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Not really - if a Resistance member or distress call from them reaches Primal Earth, Statesman and the other heroes are duty-bound to investigate it.
Obviously, they wouldn't just go crashing in there - they have to see who was asking for help, if it was genuine and so on - and as Paretoria is a poweful world, kicking off a war with them right away while the Rikti are still causing trouble here probably wouldn't be sensible - so I'm sure Statesman will suggest other heroes infiltrate Praetoria and bring back a full report on the situation there |
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That's an assumption of bad faith on your part. In and of itself, there's nothing wrong with the original post, and there was an actual discussion going on at the point when the thread got taken over. Regardless of your opinion of the OP, threadjacking is pretty poor form.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
You mean when it was about TCS's constant whine about people playing blueside?
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Well, it's only fair to actually go there and check out the situation - see who's right and wrong |
Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
That's funny right there.
Hang on, let's go back a bit, you said: If a Resistance member's distress call. The Resistance. This worlds criminal element. These are the people breaking the law,and disturbing the peace. Not just the laws you have deemed evil, but things like public endangerment, abduction, and sedition. If our agents hear about the location of a criminal in a foreign country the only reason we would go over there is to help bring them in! |
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Doing these solo I'm of a much different mind on Mayhem vs Safeguard. Mayhem missions are easy. Just treat it like a nice destructive stroll. Blow stuff up, defeat a spawn. Blow more stuff up. The number of items that increase your time is pretty huge, you can get well over 25 minutes pretty easily.|
Originally Posted by Seldom
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Mayhem missions: lots of ambushes, which if handled hastily can group up into team-wipe sized longbow squads. Limited time from the get go, and no way to regain time via breaking things after the bank. Far tougher than the blue equivalent. |
If the mission has one, go to the jail and break out whoever is in it. Now you have an ally. Yes, it's an ally with a short attention span, but as long as you blow up everything within its perception you should be fine. And blowing everything up is fun anyway. Boss-class allies also help with ambushes, occupy arson spawns, take out other side mission bosses.
Then complete the side missions. These will add even more time (snatch & grab even gives TWO time rewards). After you've completed all the side missions and blown things up to your heart's content, THEN go to the bank. Hopefully still with an ally to help you.
Safeguards OTOH, you have to make your way to the bank a little quicker. And if you lose the fight with the villain, you're pretty much done; by time you revive in the field hospital, the villain has high-tailed it across the map and is moments away from exiting. Defeated in a Mayhem? Stroll back to the bank where the hero is sitting there waiting for you. Also tougher: stopping the arson. There's a limited time to do it in, and once the building goes up that's that. AFAIK, there's no real urgency in setting the fire.
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It's not really an assumption of bad faith when he's got multiple threads on what is essentially the same subject, and it also colors his posts in other people's threads.
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Originally Posted by Redoubtable
That's an assumption of bad faith on your part.
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America is a Republic. Democracies are dangerous forms of government where 51% of the population votes to imprison or kill off the other 49%.
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Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
So in other words you can have any government you want, as long as it's American government.
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Apparently so am I. I must be imagining those +1/x6 missions I've been soloing.
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Originally Posted by Kelenar
Am I playing some radically buffed Electric Armor set only available to me, or what?
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As I quoted earlier, "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner."|
Originally Posted by Scythus
America is a Republic. Democracies are dangerous forms of government where 51% of the population votes to imprison or kill off the other 49%.
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I think the rest of the quote works pretty well for Praetoria, too: "Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Now, Emperor Cole isn't exactly a lamb, and you might argue that he's not in the minority... but he's certainly well-armed.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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And apart from Dominatrix, he's not really a big fan of liberty either.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
As I quoted earlier, "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner."
I think the rest of the quote works pretty well for Praetoria, too: "Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Now, Emperor Cole isn't exactly a lamb, and you might argue that he's not in the minority... but he's certainly well-armed. |
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*Dials 116*
Operator: Hello this is the forum police, what seems to be the problem.
Sterling: Umm, yeah, hi...This is Sterling. I'd like to report a thread hi-jacking.
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To the OP: I hope you are successful in your drive to get more people to play redside. Personally, I haven't been able to get into it that much. But more balance between red and blue would be a nice thing.
To the Thread Hijackers: Both GG and Abrahms are making solid points expressing their views. Even though I find GG's a bit simplistic. There are HUGE problems with an outside force coming into a region to impose their values and mores for another society's supposed benefit. A large portion of the problems we are having with the middle east right now stem from decades of following an ideology similair to GG's.
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Ugh. I was on board with the whole "things that are more difficult, hence more fun" theme until you reminded me of these. Ballistas are extremely challenging given their rank. And Sea Witch... now I just wait to outlevel her a bit before taking her on. Brutal.
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Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
I'd also add Longbow Ballista. In fact Elite Bosses in general, which are far more prevalent on Redside than Blueside, and a few of them (I'm looking at you, Sea Witch) are hellish to fight when you're in the mid 20s.
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I shudder at the thought of all the rights and freedoms that have been curtailed because of someone's idea of "normal human morality."|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It can still be a crime against normal human morality
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Before this thread, I was planning to support the resistance. But no more! All hail Tyrant's popular and benevolent regime!
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Yes. Golden Girl, and Golden Girl alone, is enough reason for me to not support the resistance. I abhor that kind of ignorant zealotry.|
Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
I shudder at the thought of all the rights and freedoms that have been curtailed because of someone's idea of "normal human morality."
Before this thread, I was planning to support the resistance. But no more! All hail Tyrant's popular and benevolent regime! |
I'm not falling for Tyrant's tricks either. I'll work for whoever pays best, morality be damned.
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Fleeting: if you don't like this topic, it's best to leave it be, not to change the subject. If you were to make a thread on a particular playstyle, and somebody didn't like it, that wouldn't be a good reason to derail your thread to something they enjoyed. The purpose of this thread was simply to discuss the reasons why some players prefer a certain portion of this game.
Back to the original subject:
I do appreciate the way redside tends to end with more bossfights, actually. The way most Elite bosses still carry purple triangles makes it a bit harsh on dominators, but with the recent upgrade it's still doable for them. I teamed up to 50, so I've been flashing back through all the stories I didn't get to read or try. Starting at the earliest, and working my way up, I have to say the progression feels pretty good story-wise. You start out being the flunky, but get more and more respected as the levels go up.
The minor qualm is that the villain is backbiting vs. villain groups most of the time. I hope they add more actual factional conflict, especially some without Longbow.
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There's no such thing as the norm for human morality. You're boarding ethnocentrism when you assume that there is. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It can still be a crime against normal human morality |
Evil and Good are rather subjective concepts so the argument is more a practice of ideological fornication.
Anyway..not that the argument isn't interest (it really isn't.)
I liked the old Baracuda SF because it was challenging. They should have just increased the merit reward rather than lowering the difficulty.
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The funny thing is the Sea Witch is fun (for me at least) because she is so difficult.|
Originally Posted by Sardan
Ugh. I was on board with the whole "things that are more difficult, hence more fun" theme until you reminded me of these. Ballistas are extremely challenging given their rank. And Sea Witch... now I just wait to outlevel her a bit before taking her on. Brutal.
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She's a nightmare opponent, who has dealt out a succession of humiliating and frustrating defeats to my villains, but for that reason I approach that mission with each new villain who runs that arc with an anticipation and excitement matched by few other moments in the game.
Because sooner or later one of my villains will beat her on the first attempt, and that revenge will be sweet.
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At this point I'm more afraid of Golden Girl than Tyrant!|
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Yes. Golden Girl, and Golden Girl alone, is enough reason for me to not support the resistance. I abhor that kind of ignorant zealotry.
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Back on the subject: I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kadabra Kill in this thread yet. Or did I miss it? The mission where you fight him and another boss at the same time is killer. Although the Sea Witch is not much easier.
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GG Has gone full circle from driving people from the Loyalist threads onto driving them to it.|
Originally Posted by Red_Raccoon
I shudder at the thought of all the rights and freedoms that have been curtailed because of someone's idea of "normal human morality."
Before this thread, I was planning to support the resistance. But no more! All hail Tyrant's popular and benevolent regime! |
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But he didn't. I did, and you're right, that was uncool. To the Original Poster, I'm sorry.
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Fleeting: if you don't like this topic, it's best to leave it be, not to change the subject.
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Originally Posted by Liz Bathory
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What you don't realize GG, is that any of those worlds, had they a standing government left, could actually and successfully accuse our government of a number of crimes, up to and including acts of war.
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