Can we have an 18+ server with more relaxed rules please?


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Originally Posted by Radubadu View Post
Also, to the OP: call me old fashioned, or just old... but wanting to use a "bad name" makes you the immature one does it not?
In a forum where people fondly speak of The Family Guy, I think there's no need to judge if some people get a kick out of d*** and fart jokes. For some, it's immature. For other, life's too short to be offended by the inane.

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not to mention that there will be no way to insure that anyone under 18 doesn't join the server.
Actually, if you pay with a credit card, there's a way to know if you're 18. There could be a 18+ server that can only be accessed by means of paying with a credit card and not a time card. If your account is verified to be 18+, or if your parents permit that you can use this server (assuming their responsible enough to find out if there's an 18+ server or not when they make an account for you), then you could feasibly have a somewhat reliable age check.

Keep in mind, there are always going to be ways around anything. This game may be rated T for teen, but I'm aware of a plenty of parents who let their children play anyway. Some of those parents probably don't even know the age rating for the game.

To the OP; In a perfect world, we'd have one. But the effort to create one probably doesn't justify the cost and payoff for doing so.


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Taking away timecards from a server is a surefire way to hack people off, especially after the...whichever card it was that people suddenly found they couldnt use for monthly payments anymore. Some people are now limited to time-cards.

I know it's not 'all servers', but its still not a sound idea.


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Taking away timecards from a server is a surefire way to hack people off, especially after the...whichever card it was that people suddenly found they couldnt use for monthly payments anymore. Some people are now limited to time-cards.

I know it's not 'all servers', but its still not a sound idea.
I'd assume, and this is assuming, mind you, that once you've established you're of age, payment methods wouldn't matter after initial activation. I'm not sure you could block a server easily once characters were created on it. Proving you're old enough once should be good enough.


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I'd assume, and this is assuming, mind you, that once you've established you're of age, payment methods wouldn't matter after initial activation. I'm not sure you could block a server easily once characters were created on it. Proving you're old enough once should be good enough.
And how do you tell if the person that actually plays on the account is the person that paid for it at the beginning? If a parent paid with their credit card because their 15 year-old son or daughter didn't have one yet?


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Originally Posted by marc100 View Post
I just had a name genericized and the name wasnt even that bad.
what about older players who would like to play in a more relaxed way and not have a moderator ban everything?

So I suggest an 18+ server.
thanks
People will differ on issues of taste regardless of age.

Not to mention age verification issues, etc.

If there were a spark of wit in most of the innuendo names, or alleged RP of sex addicted characters, or even the occasional phenomenon of someone trying to flirt OOC with a female character (though by now even the most desperate losers have figured out that character gender has nothing to do with who is on the other side of the keyboard), I might be more inclined to say sure, why not.

But there ain't, so I don't.


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Rules for polite society don't change with age, my friend.


 

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And how do you tell if the person that actually plays on the account is the person that paid for it at the beginning? If a parent paid with their credit card because their 15 year-old son or daughter didn't have one yet?
Meh, there's only so much control you can have on age verification. If the parent started up an account for their child, saw and failed to care that there was an 18-and-older server (which would probably have to be stated during the sign-up process), then yeah, there's a hole in the system. But there are already parents that let their pre-teens play. Would you say that NCsoft has failed to keep maintain a T for Teen screening process?

Also, the server could be accessed by purchasing a code. Like with booster packs. This purchase could have a screening process as well, which parents would be more likely to notice. If little Bobby runs up and says, "Hey dad, I want this new add on called 18+ Server," then dad's going to hopefully check it out first.

But again, I don't see this happening anyway. It doesn't seem worth the time or investment. So no naming characters after Buddy Plugg from South Park, kids. Especially since that breaks two rules.


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really? This is like City of Nuns
Not really. But depending on the bio it could easily be over the line.
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In a forum where people fondly speak of The Family Guy, I think there's no need to judge if some people get a kick out of d*** and fart jokes. For some, it's immature. For other, life's too short to be offended by the inane.
Immature and offensive are not synonyms....


 

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Really? It's kind of hard to make out, but I'm pretty sure mine says T for Teen on it.
Heh, you said 'make out'. /e snickers and runs away.

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I just had a name genericized and the name wasnt even that bad.
In your opinion. To the GMs, it was.

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what about older players who would like to play in a more relaxed way and not have a moderator ban everything?
Moderators do not "ban everything". Follow the EULA rules for the game (which you agreed to do) and you will not have any problems.

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So I suggest an 18+ server.thanks
Not needed in the least.


 

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Precisely. People keep asking for a "mature" server and every time it comes down to wanting to do juvenile things on it. Fact of the matter is, if you get name-busted for something, it's not because the game isn't "adult enough," it's because it's in incredibly poor taste. Believing an "adult" server would permit this is believing that adults have poor taste. As an adult myself, I'd never set foot in the place, and I'm sure juvenile teens would be lining up to join.
This. The only advantage I can see to an 18+ server is that it would keep the people who want to be immature (irregardless of age) away from me.


 

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Immature and offensive are not synonyms....
Fair enough. I should have said, "Some people like to be offended more easily than others. Even if it's only immaturity that's offended them." Now, if you're name truly was offensive, being racial, anti- OR pro-religious, or bigoted in any way, shape or form, then yeah, you had it coming.


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Even though the GMs will enforce towards E10+. I don't mind that.
Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds.
But I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.


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You still haven't told us what the name was. for all i know your just trying to get others to quit the game, because of how bad and immature it is.

Repsonally i have no problem with any of this. if your trying to create a character with a name like sexy mistress then either you have no concept or the concept is a really immature one like a super stripper or something, which is a bit sad.


So tell us what your char was actually named and then we'll descide if this is OTT or not. =)


 

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Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds.
I'd rather play with a 10 year old who was behaving themselves than an immature 40 year old who felt being a loud jerk, swearing constantly and making "questionable" names was entertaining.


 

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In a forum where people fondly speak of The Family Guy, I think there's no need to judge if some people get a kick out of d*** and fart jokes. For some, it's immature. For other, life's too short to be offended by the inane.
Since we don't know what the name was nobody can judge whether or not it's immature. I was just pointing out that he knew it would be considered bad based on the wording of the original post and choosing to use it regardless of the potential consequence he was aware of is an act of immaturity.

While I don't find such things offensive and do enjoy Family Guy and find d*** and fart jokes funny I can still admit that they're immature. But, this is about respecting other people... specifically the parents of the younger person that don't want their child to see the names that mods determine to ban.

However the banning of the name is not what's being questioned. So, to answer the OP... I find it an interesting idea, but far from necessary. You can enjoy the game without names that the mods consider inappropriate.

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Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds.
But I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.
You still don't know the age of the person who reported the name... it could've been someone your own age or older. Without knowing what the name was it's hard to say but I'd best most 10 year olds would either not know what it meant or find it funny... as you did... isn't that interesting?


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Originally Posted by marc100 View Post
I just had a name genericized and the name wasnt even that bad.
what about older players who would like to play in a more relaxed way and not have a moderator ban everything?

So I suggest an 18+ server.
thanks
No.

Multiple problems.
1. Age verification
2. Enforcement - who decides what's acceptable? Who keeps out minors?
3. Resources - another server *just* for 18+?
4. Game is marketed for teens, and there are kids who play with adult supervision.
5. There already exist other channels/mediums to engage in "adult" activities if you so choose. Try Second Life if you're into that sort of thing.


 

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Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds.
But I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.
Yuo aren't being forced to play with 10 year olds. You are being forced to play in an environment that the majority of parents would consider reasonable for their 10 year olds. If you want to play with older people then there are plenty of ways to do that, the obvious is to find a SG that caters to older players (yes they exist). Now your actual complaint is that the server environment is set by the mods to be suitable for 10 year olds and personally I have no problem whatsoever with that. I don't care a lot if people want to have stupid names with sex or drug references but it does irk me and so I support the policy of disallowing it.


 

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Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds...
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...I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.
... We're not stopping you.

Honestly, it's a complete waste of developer time.


 

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Thats what Im saying. I dont want to play with 10 year olds.
But I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.

Lol

Think that M rating is going to keep lil kiddies away. Try playing Halo 3 or Modern Warfare2 and see how that works out for you


 

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Honestly, it's a complete waste of developer time.
To be fair, so is practically everything else in this forum. I really think they just put it up so the devs have something to laugh at on their lunch break.


 

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Really? It's kind of hard to make out, but I'm pretty sure mine says T for Teen on it.
The EU version says 16+

US Version says 'T for Teens'

ERSB site:

TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

/unsigned on the Immature Server


 

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Originally Posted by marc100 View Post
I just have to find a different game if I want it my way.

We are so glad to see you've come to this realization without our having to tell you that this game probably isn't for you. Good luck in your search for a game that only caters to dirty old men.


 

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Originally Posted by LISAR View Post
I have no issue with Sexy Mistress being hit with the mod stick.
While it's not a name I'd use.

I'd rather see names like...

P A T H F I N D E R

xXx Pathfinder xXx

P47hf1nd3r

...get genericed, than Sexy Mistress. :P


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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja View Post
The EU version says 16+

US Version says 'T for Teens'

ERSB site:

TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

/unsigned on the Immature Server
Okay, that explains why I was thinking 16 up.

However, even so...13 up...go watch some late night TV, or PG movies. Hell, even Spaceballs (rated PG) uses the F word in it.

You can get away with alot in that rating. Not that I'm for a mature server. I really don't think it would change anything.

I just think the GMs take some of the generics to far.


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