Can we have an 18+ server with more relaxed rules please?
I would have reported the name, had I seen it.
I don't really like running into "Sexy" anyone in this game.
For me its not heroic, but its whorish... and this isnt second life.
Sorry, I am not even prudish, I just dont like that shat in my video game.
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I report people for slurs as well.
They dont belong in my video game.
And what everyone's saying is that there's simply no way to keep them out, regardless of whether there's a demand for such a server. Unless you have an in-person driver's licence exam with a panel of physicians who are experts on physical growth characteristics, in which case you're kinda limiting your player base.
We're all very curious what name was genericed though. Like it matters. |
excuse me? Oh give me a break. I didnt say I wanted to do anything dirty. my characters name was really funny.
Right now as I write this Im on a team now on Virtue, the "glorious good server where the serious players are", and the people on my team are reciting the lyrics to "Kyle's Mom's a B---- from South Park" complete with racist slurs about Kyle's religion. There going back and forth with the slurs. So please dont give me any speeches or put downs about how you all are the mature ones and Im the immature dirty old man. I would never say that stuff in a team chat because I dont know who else is on or their age. but it's the kids who do. Especially when this game allows you to modify a female characters bust size (why would a teen game need that? hmm?), have wide open cleavage, extremely low cut tops, revealing bikinis and short-shorts, or male costumes with straps that look like S&M dungeon costume, complete with peirced nipples. So don't even try to gang up on me like I'm the bad one and you're all angels, I'll just vomit from the hypocracy. Im just suggesting a place where the children cant enter. thats all. <rant> Oh and Im so tired of the hypocrite players here who say one thing in public but do something else in the game. Everyone hates pl'ing in public like its a low class thing, but theyre the first ones who thank me profusely for following their lowbie teams in the sewers and healing them or dropping lvl 50 ice patches under lvl 5 mobs giving them a completely unfair advantage. I've helped at least a dozen lowbie teams in the sewers and no one ever asked me to stop helping them. Everyone loves it in reality, but says somethig different on the boards. meh. </rant> |
I love how you want to be the mature person when you spend your in game time hanging out with people form your story.
This isn't really a hard place to play a mayrdor though so go on and pout about how we are self righteous liars keeping you down.
I would have reported the name, had I seen it.
I don't really like running into "Sexy" anyone in this game. For me its not heroic, but its whorish... and this isnt second life. Sorry, I am not even prudish, I just dont like that shat in my video game. :edit: I report people for slurs as well. They dont belong in my video game. |
I don't find names like...
Jane Goodburg, to be heroic either. And it kinda lacks the heroic or villain feel to it as well.
Also remember, the game does have filters. If you don't like the swearing, use it.
Damn is about as far as I go in the game. But I highly support people using the filters, as I'll tell you now, having worked with 10-12 year olds...they swear...alot...it suprised me how much they swear and what they say. :O Not to mention, as already stated...rated teen for language (what one considers infrequent or frequent, is probably subjective).
And yes, I agree...don't care to see the name "Sexy" but then, isn't that one those "hey there's lots of names out there...add on an adjective advice" I see going around. And I'd hate to see someone genericed, when they're using the advice of MANY people on the forums.
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And yes, I agree...don't care to see the name "Sexy" but then, isn't that one those "hey there's lots of names out there...add on an adjective advice" I see going around. And I'd hate to see someone genericed, when they're using the advice of MANY people on the forums.
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It's that the best you can do for adjectives then you should start working on your GED.
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I just figure, with those who think there are so many names available, just by adding adjectives, Sexy is an adjective.
Dark Mistress
Sexy Mistress
Blue Mistress
Three different adjectives, and three names that may be available on the server of your choice.
Oh the names are the suckie...but hey, they're available.
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I have no idea if that's for me or for those who use it. o.O
I just figure, with those who think there are so many names available, just by adding adjectives, Sexy is an adjective. Dark Mistress Sexy Mistress Blue Mistress Three different adjectives, and three names that may be available on the server of your choice. Oh the names are the suckie...but hey, they're available. |
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I would have reported the name, had I seen it.
I don't really like running into "Sexy" anyone in this game. For me its not heroic, but its whorish... and this isnt second life. Sorry, I am not even prudish, I just dont like that shat in my video game. :edit: I report people for slurs as well. They dont belong in my video game. |
PP said slurs, as in, a demeaning word for a group of people, don't belong in her game.
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Y'know there are ways to work around this, I am living proof.
I am in an SG, the name is "Explicit Content 18 and Over ONLY", how do you get in to such an SG? you have to prove you are A. over 18 both physically and overal mentally, and B. that while we do participate in more "adult situations, you are mature, not a living frat rat curse machine, and that have at least a small bit of intelligence. This has managed to keep out the kids and those who are just huge children.
If you really desire an 18+ community, seek out, yes actively look, somewhere such as where have found. Though don't expect to get it just handed to you, you usually have to earn it.
excuse me? Oh give me a break. I didnt say I wanted to do anything dirty. my characters name was really funny.
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Right now as I write this Im on a team now on Virtue, the "glorious good server where the serious players are", and the people on my team are reciting the lyrics to "Kyle's Mom's a B---- from South Park" complete with racist slurs about Kyle's religion. There going back and forth with the slurs. So please dont give me any speeches or put downs about how you all are the mature ones and Im the immature dirty old man. I would never say that stuff in a team chat because I dont know who else is on or their age. but it's the kids who do. |
Especially when this game allows you to modify a female characters bust size (why would a teen game need that? hmm?), |
have wide open cleavage, extremely low cut tops, revealing bikinis and short-shorts, or male costumes with straps that look like S&M dungeon costume, complete with peirced nipples. |
So don't even try to gang up on me like I'm the bad one and you're all angels, I'll just vomit from the hypocracy. Im just suggesting a place where the children cant enter. thats all. |
Oh and Im so tired of the hypocrite players here who say one thing in public but do something else in the game. Everyone hates pl'ing in public like its a low class thing, but theyre the first ones who thank me profusely for following their lowbie teams in the sewers and healing them or dropping lvl 50 ice patches under lvl 5 mobs giving them a completely unfair advantage. |
BIG difference between a buff and PLing. I'd explain it to you, but from what I've seen in this thread it'd be a waste of time.
With a tip of the hat to Red Valkyrja; just for comparison purposes:
In the US, the ESRB Rating is:
TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
In the EU, the PEGI Rating is:
16+
Titles rated 16 are suitable only for persons of 16 years of age or older. Some situations include moderate to strong action violence, mild references to gambling, and rude humor.
This makes them a close match. Besides the Ratings Systems are just for informational purposes aa to what the game provides by itself. The GM's are tasked with Mod'ing the activities of the subscriber base in order to keep that Rating. So, without further info as to what the OP thought "was a funny name", we have to rely on the GM's, and I will live with that because I would rather have the rule of law than an anarchy. Those who wish anarchy usually dont last long anywho.
I truly wonder what the name could have been when we have the NPC Dominatrix as a viable Teen/16+ name. Actually, this is a good example of a possible borderline, but technically 'valid' name for the game's rating. It's all in the way one 'reads into' the character (whether maturely or immaturely). The name (Dominatrix) is not necessarily an adult term. Just because the proper name for a female who dominates (has power over something) has been appropriated by a certain subculture doesnt make it 'adult' by definition. And the ingame description of the NPC is suggestive:
Being the daughter of a famous and universally loved super heroine never sat well with Dominatrix. She rebelled from a very early age and when she hit puberty and her powers kicked in she decided enough was enough. After killing her mother, the infamous Miss Liberty, she started making a name for herself. She caught Tyrants attention and has been serving him loyally, in all capacities, ever since. |
But that is what is allowable: Suggestive but not Vulgar. Which is more along the lines of Mature without being Immature about it. And dont you wish that the kids could get a clue about what Maturity really means anywho?
Can you guess how I vote on this idea without me saying anything about a ranger?
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I find myself entering this conversation late... most of the pertinent flaws with an 18+ server have already been addressed throughout the thread. One that I don't think I've seen addressed in full is the... ahem... need... of the game to maintain a certain rating across various countries. The short version is that NCSoft, as a publisher, submits the developer created content before various review boards. They use this certification as a basis on how, and who, they can sell the game to.
While some players like to cite examples such as Halo or Call of Duty as examples of mature games that sell to, and are played by, a younger crowd, the fact is, games like this tend to get creamed by titles like New Super Mario Brothers. The Nintendo Wii console dusted competitors that focused on the hard-core gamer, a market that didn't grow or expand as various accountants expected.
The mature market on the Wii still continues to elude publishers like Capcom and Sega, with titles such as Madworld flopping due to it's focus on continuous vulgarity and profanity. Capcom couldn't follow up Resident Evil 4 with another adventure title, and gamers turned their noses up, and their wallets down, at the extended light-gun shooters. It's not that the market does not exist, but that publishers can't get the right mix of what gamers want to play, with what gamers want to experience. Too many publishers and developers equate Mature with violent, sexual, and immature behavior.
The concept holds across movies. G and PG movies routinely outsell R-rated movies. Yes, every once in a while an R rated film will rake in some cash, but for the most part, movie companies out to make profits have to focus on fitting within the PG-13 envelope. This doesn't mean that they can't still do epic adventures or tell great stories. It does mean that they (the content creators) have to pay attention to how the content is presented. Case in point: The rebooted Batman franchise.
The fact for NCSoft is that the Teen / 16+ rating gives them the flexibility to market the brandings of their games to a wider audience, while still giving room for naughtier concepts such a Dominatrix. While no current game retailer refuses to sell M rated games, for mass market retailers like WalMart, it's much easier, and cheaper, to lock in store-promotions and positioning for a game that can sell to a wider market.
Adding an 18+ server, behind anything else, would basically require that NCSoft re-certify the developer created content against the new rating. This in turn could hurt future marketing opportunities. Stores like Walmart, that happily promoted the Good Vs. Evil edition of the game, might not so happily, or cheaply, do the same thing again.
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While I'm at it, one of the common misconceptions of the game is that simply having the profanity / vulgarity filter allows players to say what they want to say, and if other players don't like it, simply enable the filter. It's been made quite clear by the forum moderators, by the in-game moderators, and by the developers that this isn't true. The various chat filters do not simply grant carte-blanche for players to type or emote what-ever they want. Players who continuously willingly trigger the filter system stand to have their accounts suspended or banned.
Another common misconception is that the players themselves are responsible for every single genericed reporting. Some players don't seem to realize that the GM's play the game to, and GM's can use the /search function just as well as any other player. So just because you (a player) got genericed, doesn't mean that another player went through the trouble of using /petition.
Something else to consider is that the GM's, like players, can dump public broadcast chat logs to file and save them for later. So again, a player doesn't have to be the one to report somebody for excessive vulgar or profane language.
Just something to keep in mind for those thinking, oh yes I can get away with being a jerk. Chances are... you can't.
Yuo aren't being forced to play with 10 year olds. You are being forced to play in an environment that the majority of parents would consider reasonable for their 10 year olds. If you want to play with older people then there are plenty of ways to do that, the obvious is to find a SG that caters to older players (yes they exist). Now your actual complaint is that the server environment is set by the mods to be suitable for 10 year olds and personally I have no problem whatsoever with that. I don't care a lot if people want to have stupid names with sex or drug references but it does irk me and so I support the policy of disallowing it.
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But an 18+ server won't give you that. An 18+ server will be filled mostly with underage kids, just as practically everything that's forbidden for minors.
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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excuse me? Oh give me a break. I didnt say I wanted to do anything dirty. my characters name was really funny.
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Right now as I write this Im on a team now on Virtue, the "glorious good server where the serious players are", and the people on my team are reciting the lyrics to "Kyle's Mom's a B---- from South Park" complete with racist slurs about Kyle's religion. There going back and forth with the slurs. So please dont give me any speeches or put downs about how you all are the mature ones and Im the immature dirty old man. I would never say that stuff in a team chat because I dont know who else is on or their age. but it's the kids who do. |
Especially when this game allows you to modify a female characters bust size (why would a teen game need that? hmm?), have wide open cleavage, extremely low cut tops, revealing bikinis and short-shorts, or male costumes with straps that look like S&M dungeon costume, complete with peirced nipples. |
So don't even try to gang up on me like I'm the bad one and you're all angels, I'll just vomit from the hypocracy. Im just suggesting a place where the children cant enter. thats all |
Oh and Im so tired of the hypocrite players here who say one thing in public but do something else in the game. Everyone hates pl'ing in public like its a low class thing, but theyre the first ones who thank me profusely for following their lowbie teams in the sewers and healing them or dropping lvl 50 ice patches under lvl 5 mobs giving them a completely unfair advantage. I've helped at least a dozen lowbie teams in the sewers and no one ever asked me to stop helping them. Everyone loves it in reality, but says somethig different on the boards. meh. |
There is no need for a "mature" server, as there are no normally acceptable mature themes that you can't pull off in the current game given enough caution on your part. You really can't expect more from a T-rated game, and it's foolish to pout about it.
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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my characters name was really funny.
Right now as I write this Im on a team now on Virtue, the "glorious good server where the serious players are", |
I dunno - maybe try a different server where people are less "serious" before you suggest the quagmire that an age restricted server would be...
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Lol
Think that M rating is going to keep lil kiddies away. Try playing Halo 3 or Modern Warfare2 and see how that works out for you |
Also, don't come into these forums and claim that people of these forums are singning south park songs. As with most MMOs the people who frequent the forum likely represent a small percentage of the people actually playing. If you can name a specific example take it up with that person but don't call me a hypocrit for something someone else did that MIGHT be on these forums.
Good luck in your search for a game that only caters to dirty old men.
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Like it or not most of the people here are going to back a GMs decision because they are paid to use their judgment and we have no choice but to trust that so you're whining to the wrong people.
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Hmmmm people forgot to add this popular MMO to the list of what not to do AoC. Rated 18+ or M, how ever you like it.
It had nudity, violence, and (possibly dunno for a fact) profanity. What happened after the first bit, people freaked out cause of nudity in the game. Parents (not all...some) will buy any game for a kid then freak out once they see what they are playing.
So for them to go through that type of fiasco, and possible legal problems(you never know). I would say no to this idea. Keep it at its status quo.
Hmmmm people forgot to add this popular MMO to the list of what not to do AoC. Rated 18+ or M, how ever you like it.
It had nudity, violence, and (possibly dunno for a fact) profanity. What happened after the first bit, people freaked out cause of nudity in the game. Parents (not all...some) will buy any game for a kid then freak out once they see what they are playing. So for them to go through that type of fiasco, and possible legal problems(you never know). I would say no to this idea. Keep it at its status quo. |
That's the game I was thinking of when I made my comment, I just didn't want to recommend it since the mods tend to frown on recommending other games outside of Comic and Hero/Villain Culture.
Right now as I write this Im on a team now on Virtue, the "glorious good server where the serious players are", and the people on my team are reciting the lyrics to "Kyle's Mom's a B---- from South Park" complete with racist slurs about Kyle's religion. There going back and forth with the slurs.
So please dont give me any speeches or put downs about how you all are the mature ones and Im the immature dirty old man. I would never say that stuff in a team chat because I dont know who else is on or their age. but it's the kids who do.
Especially when this game allows you to modify a female characters bust size (why would a teen game need that? hmm?), have wide open cleavage, extremely low cut tops, revealing bikinis and short-shorts, or male costumes with straps that look like S&M dungeon costume, complete with peirced nipples.
So don't even try to gang up on me like I'm the bad one and you're all angels, I'll just vomit from the hypocracy.
Im just suggesting a place where the children cant enter. thats all.
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Oh and Im so tired of the hypocrite players here who say one thing in public but do something else in the game.
Everyone hates pl'ing in public like its a low class thing, but theyre the first ones who thank me profusely for following their lowbie teams in the sewers and healing them or dropping lvl 50 ice patches under lvl 5 mobs giving them a completely unfair advantage. I've helped at least a dozen lowbie teams in the sewers and no one ever asked me to stop helping them. Everyone loves it in reality, but says somethig different on the boards.
meh.
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