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Nivienne just posted that the Rep System is a "forum game."

So, how are we supposed to know that? According the the forum FAQ:

What is reputation?
Reputation is a way of rating users depending on the quality of their posts. If the administrators have enabled reputation, then the reputation icon will be visible in posts.
So, it can't be used for it's purpose according to the forum providers. So, it's useless as a 'communal quality control.' It's just a game.


Well, judging it as a game, it's useless. It's just dots without meaning. If we were *really* to game it, we can get teams to 'go after' certain posters to turn their dots deeply red. And then that would get disciplined as harassment.


And what game encourages anonymous taunts and criticisms? This is forum PvP in it's truest sense since it sets players *against* players rather than friendly competition.



So really, it's less than useless -- it's harmful.


Mods, turn rep off for good.


I've turned mine off and am never going to check any comments again and never going to give anyone +/- rep again.


Oh, if you you think Tags are a forum game too, and aren't going to edit out the silly ones, then get rid of Tags, too.


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Greetings Players,

We are noticing a lot of abuse using the Reputation Comments option when leaving negative rep for other players. This is simply unacceptable. If you want to leave your fellow posters comments please understand that these comments are also covered in the Rules and Guidelines.

From now on those that are found to be abusive will have their Reputation reset to "0" (zero) making your rep power have little to no value and we will also be taking action against your forum posting account.

The Rep system is nothing more than a forum game and a way for you to have fun with each other. It was not left turned on to allow players an anonymous way to abuse, troll and attack other players.

Please review the Rules and Guidelines and think twice before posting those comments in the future.

Thanks for you support and understanding.
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I am happy that they are attempting to do something about it. Personally, I wish they could just the anonymity so that I would know who my Cyber Stalker is.



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First thing I do on any forum software system is to turn the rep system off.

I've never had it on, never checked it, and never will.


 

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It's amazing how hopelessly naive the Mods are, time and time again.


 

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Considering that my rep is pretty much garbage anyhow, color me not worried.


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Originally Posted by Vega View Post
I am happy that they are attempting to do something about it. Personally, I wish they could just the anonymity so that I would know who my Cyber Stalker is.
That's a good idea. Personally I've been neg repped and left stupid comments simply because I don't agree with certain popular forum posters.


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People care way to much about something that could not matter less.

If you care that much about Rep or comments you have mental issues.


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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack View Post
That's a good idea. Personally I've been neg repped and left stupid comments simply because I don't agree with certain popular forum posters.
No a better idea would be to simply turn off the silly system.

Just like they did for the star system.


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I don't do PvP, so I turned my rep off too.


 

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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack View Post
That's a good idea. Personally I've been neg repped and left stupid comments simply because I don't agree with certain popular forum posters.
Which of course proves the system is WAI... <sarcasm-off/>


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Originally Posted by Mirai View Post
I don't do PvP, so I turned my rep off too.
The PvPer's do have a reputation to leaving nasty reps don't they...

I wonder if that's the definition of Irony...


 

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I'd love to see the system turned off. Frankly, IMO the boards are a bit much to moderate properly with the resources they have. They certainly don't need to divide their resources by moderating reputation comments as well.

Also, if they didn't require a comment for negative rep, they might get fewer inappropriate ones. I mean, almost by definition a person leaving negative rep is in a negative frame of mind - its a bit much to expect such comments to be full of positive feedback!


 

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Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
It's amazing how hopelessly naive the Mods are, time and time again.
... just the mods?

I think the whole company. Remember how AE was handled in I14? "Yes, the rewards will be less than content outside of AE, but it won't be that much less" ... yeah. like nobody was gonna abuse that.

Then again, I do prefer having developers that see every glass as half full... then every glass as a target to break.


 

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It's just a game. A game you aren't forced into. Some people like it. If you don't care for it turn it off and don't look at the comments. If you like it but are getting abusive comments report it. I don't understand the people who want it fully removed since it's completely optional.


 

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Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants View Post
since it's completely optional.
Sorry, it is not COMPLETELY optional.

People can still rep and leave comments even if you have it "turned off".

Also, the comment page DOES NOT STAY CLOSED, even if you have rep "turned off".

Having rep "turned off" ONLY means that others can't see what level rep you're at.... it does not actually turn the FUNCTION off.

Therefore, it is not completely optional.

Playing on the Forum Games threads is optional.

Leave a tool out for the trolls to use, and it will get used. duh.

Just disable the function completely, it's divisive and does not contribute to the forum community in a positive manner.


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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia View Post
No a better idea would be to simply turn off the silly system.

Just like they did for the star system.
The stars are still there. People just stopped using them, and started using tags



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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack View Post
That's a good idea. Personally I've been neg repped and left stupid comments simply because I don't agree with certain popular forum posters.
^ This

I check once in a while. And I +rep people I think are polite and make good points, or do funny stuff.


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Originally Posted by Vega View Post
The stars are still there. People just stopped using them, and started using tags
I believe the reference is to the old star system that allowed you to "star" individual posters. That system was removed. They left in the ability to "star" threads, however.


 

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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia View Post
No a better idea would be to simply turn off the silly system.

Just like they did for the star system.
The stars are still there. People just stopped using them, and started using tags

I think Aura was referencing the star system on the old forums... where stars were given to individuals, not just the threads. I believe THAT star system was disabled.


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Originally Posted by Impish Kat View Post
Sorry, it is not COMPLETELY optional.

People can still rep and leave comments even if you have it "turned off".

Also, the comment page DOES NOT STAY CLOSED, even if you have rep "turned off".

Having rep "turned off" ONLY means that others can't see what level rep you're at.... it does not actually turn the FUNCTION off.
I'm quite sure people have left me comments, and I've never seen them. I must be super skilled at avoiding such things.


 

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Well, judging it as a game, it's useless. It's just dots without meaning. If we were *really* to game it, we can get teams to 'go after' certain posters to turn their dots deeply red. And then that would get disciplined as harassment.
Triumph has yet to be disciplined for our -rep dogpile...

I really hope it didn't take Niv's comment for you to realize just how useless rep is. As a community we have farmed it, abused it, and had our fun with it. It wasn't the Mod's decision that rep is a forum game...they don't control how we use it.

If moderating negative rep comments is really taking that much of the Mod's time, then I agree it should be turned off. However, I find it amusing.


 

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Velocity View Post
I believe the reference is to the old star system that allowed you to "star" individual posters. That system was removed. They left in the ability to "star" threads, however.
gotcha.

I still think that if your forum handle was tied to any and everything that you do on the forums, we wouldn't be seeing the junk that we do now. A lot of the tags that pop up are just as bad as the anonymous neg rep comments. I think that now the griefers will just neg rep without comment, happy in their anonymity. So I guess that moves me into the turn them off camp.



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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
Nivienne just posted that the Rep System is a "forum game."

So, how are we supposed to know that? According the the forum FAQ:
What is reputation?
Reputation is a way of rating users depending on the quality of their posts. If the administrators have enabled reputation, then the reputation icon will be visible in posts.
So, it can't be used for it's purpose according to the forum providers. So, it's useless as a 'communal quality control.' It's just a game.

I pointed that out on day one.

It's a fun game, too, I'm glad we have it.
Reading goofy rep comments (my own and those posted by others) is almost as entertaining as checking out thread tags.


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