Broadsword or Katana?


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After all this time, I decided I wanted to make a Scrapper with a sword. These two sets look a lot alike from the descriptions. With the difference being BS more damage/Kat faster.

I guess I'm looking for opinions on the "flavor" of them. I do like moving fast, but either seems to have enough attacks to keep you busy.

I decided to go Inv for the secondary since I liked it so much with my Tanker. Seems like you can stack up some good defense with both primaries too.


 

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Broadsword does more damage, katana is faster. That's about it. Pick your poison.


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They are pretty much the same with one difference: Broadsword does better burst damage, Katana has better damage over a longer period. That's pretty much it.


 

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If your secondary was more click-intensive I'd go with Katana, since the faster animations won't get you killed before you can click that crucial self heal to survive (ahem, regin). But since you're set on invuln I'd go with Broadsword, you'll be one-shotting minions left and right.


 

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If your secondary was more click-intensive I'd go with Katana, since the faster animations won't get you killed before you can click that crucial self heal to survive (ahem, regin). But since you're set on invuln I'd go with Broadsword, you'll be one-shotting minions left and right.
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They are pretty much the same with one difference: Broadsword does better burst damage, Katana has better damage over a longer period. That's pretty much it.
Katana has much better AOE damage than Broadsword as well.


 

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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen View Post
Katana has much better AOE damage than Broadsword as well.
Not to mention Katana *looks* good. Broadsword looks like you're swinging a metal flyswatter.


 

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^ that.


 

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I've got one of each, actually-a bs/regen, and a kat/invuln. The bs/regen hits like a freakin' Mack truck. Of course, that could also be the 40-50% bonus damage I've slotted her with. :^) I forget the actual amount, since it's been a while since I've been on her.

By contrast, I often have trouble taking down the pillbox turrets in RV with my kat/inv. Aesthetically, I like her more...but sometimes you just want to kill ****, FAST. And bs just does that better, I think.

But both are good. :^)


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I just wanted to throw this in here too....

If you are going to slot SO's, BS shows more of the big hurt out of the box. It will move slower, but I think overall the dmg output is better then Katana. Note: you will have to pick your targets and target switch to maximize this damage, otherwise a lot of it is overkill.

If you are going to spend millions on set IO's, then katana will outdamage BS by a mile. Specifically with some +rech. Extreme +rech makes katana rediculous.

Think of it this way. Both sets have a plus def power, and both sets have amazing damage in the last two attacks you get. BS, gets a third good hit in hack, and katana cant compare there really, in real play. But, katana gets gamblers cut, which animates insanely fast and has awsome DPA. Used as filler between big hits, Katana will put better Dmg over time out then BS. Given significant +rech, Katana can chain its tier 8 and 9 with gamblers cut as filler for crazy dmg output.

Another thought, gamblers cut makes a nice place for an achilles IO.

So I would consider that too. Cant decide? Go for the gusto and make the BS/inv and make a Kat/SR or Kat/elec and slot plus dmg on the BS and +rech on the Kat.


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Cant decide? Go for the gusto and make the BS/inv and make a Kat/SR or Kat/elec and slot plus dmg on the BS and +rech on the Kat.
I think I'm going to make one of each now and see what happens. I've never tried SR either so that could be a way to test drive that one too. So hard to know "what I like" before I try something. I am in possession of "righteous bucks" but I rarely do more than Frankenslot. I've really only got one character that is "tweeked out" with purples and sets galore.

Thanks for the replies all.


 

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I have a BS/SR and am often the only teammember left standing mowing the lawn of enemies while waiting for the team to res. If I ever get unlucky, I pop Elude, and keep mowing. It's a sight to behold. But I agree with the assessments here - it's overkill a lot of the time, which lowers your DPS compared to something like my new Claws/ brute. It also feels clunky to have a skinny sword that animates like I'm trying to swing a human. So, big damage, but not nearly as smooth as Katana. I like the previous idea of slotting Katana for +RECH, but can only imagine the END management involved in that. I may try it next, though.

In short, /SR is a fantastic choice, and lets you focus on the slicing. The fact that you can take out your most dangerous enemies first, and quickly, too, makes /SR more survivable throughout than with other sets, IMO.


 

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Bah, you Katana wimps can't use a shield, BS FTW!


 

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I've played both, and while the mechanics are pretty well nailed down, the look and feel are very different.

Katana feels more elegant, much more trained than the broadsword.

The Broadsword, on the other hand, looks much more dangerous and has more of the "Oh OW!" moments and animations.

They're both good. I lean toward Broadsword, but that was my first 50, so I'm biased.


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If you like delicate things with nice proper cups of tea go for Katana.

If your idea of a good time is a kitten and a cheese grater go for broadsword


 

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The Broadsword, on the other hand, looks much more dangerous and has more of the "Oh OW!" moments and animations.
I think you're confusing animations with sounds. BS doesn't *look* more dangerous, it *sounds* more dangerous. Even I'll admit that the crunching of that sword is quite brutal. However, the way you swing it looks weak (especially the infamous Headsplitter).

But BS does have a lot of great weapon skins which put Kat to shame. If that's what you mean by looks then yeah...


 

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You can get Rommie's big dark glowing sword.


 

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Bah, you Katana wimps can't use a shield, BS FTW!
There is nothing more glorious than the +dam aura coupled with Shield Charge and Whirling Sword.
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There is nothing more glorious than the +dam aura coupled with Shield Charge and Whirling Sword.
What about Shield Charge with Lightning Rod and Thunderstrike? I've been thinking of breaking down and making one of those.


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When you grit with headsplitter and 1 shot a LT AND the guy behind him you'll be happy you went broadsword, plus you get more chances to say "BS"


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What about Shield Charge with Lightning Rod and Thunderstrike? I've been thinking of breaking down and making one of those.
It's a tempting combo; from the closed beta I have a 50 Shield/Elec tanker and it's a nice 1-2-3 punch. If I didn't already have so many toons I'm working on.... Shield/Fire tank, Plant/Kin troller, Fire/WP brute, Ill/Rad troller, Claw/Regen scrapper, Kin/Rad defender... and that's just the ones I'm currently working on leveling.

Although that 50 BS/Shield scrapper keeps butting in on the playtime squeezing out the lowbies.


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The decision between Kat/BS is, imo, purely an aesthetic one. The only really REALLY noticeable difference between the two are the animations and skins. BS is slower, but, hits harder, Katina is faster, but less damage, but what that means is, stuff dies in about the same amount of time anyways.

If you really min/max it out, yeah, maybe the difference will be a bit more noticable... maybe. But IMO, it's all so, minor, you'll be happier picking the sword you think just LOOKS the coolest to use.

And if you want a shield, your stuck with BS.

I have both, at 50, and love them both. Really... honestly, and truly, they aren't different en ought to matter in any other way then aesthetics.


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BS gets awesome Nictus sword
Katana gets no awesome Nictus sword
But, Talsorian Katana is most certainly NOT an awesome Lightsaber that you can make "vwoo vwoo vwoo" sound effects to yourself while swinging.