Mezz Protection for All!

Perhaps I missed it in the original, did you run at 0 / 1 ?

The perma-dom comment was simply to show that the mez protection doesn't automatically mean "overpowered." Perma-doms are strong, but not because of their always-on mez protection. Specifically because it was pointed out that the dom mez protection was a "sometimes" thing.

I might have to try that arc with my scrapper and brute. I'll run it too with a kin/sonic defender with SO's and my AR/Rad corruptor, minor IO sets. Should be an interesting test. I might even run it with a few other characters, and post the results. I expect the brute to do well, the scrapper to die a lot, and the corruptors to die a lot. The kin/sonic defender should actually have zero trouble, with AoE sleep, FS, nuke, cleanup.

Build and powersets, actually. The brute is heavily IO'd, with Cloak of Darkness to get close and to-hit debuffs in Dark melee. He also sits as slightly higher than 28% melee defense. The scrapper is claws/invun. Without Unyeilding, he loses a bit of resistance, and he doesn't have any nasty tricks to pull except maybe Focus to juggle, if he can get it off.

I know the Controllers will do well. Plant is a monster, and Earth/Rad can pretty much lock down every single mob, every single spawn solo. Anything still attacking me after Stalagmites or Earthquake gets to deal with Stoney and his mag 3 hold.

I don't see why this post has warranted so many replies.

The Devs will not do this and that is pretty obvious. I figure we can just say, "Sure, give my non-melees mez protection" as much as we want and it wouldn't matter.

Put me in the camp of I don't think it's needed, I know it won't happen, but if it does, hey, I'll just make a tank mage.

I don't have a problem with a lack of mez protection on my squishies. It's not like they're not strong enough to win. If anything, the game's gotten easier and easier over time. How easy do we want it to be?

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

I'm going to jump into the fire with both feet here.

I think that some kind of mez protection would be good for the squishies, but also that mez protection itself is kind of broken.

It is too binary in many ways. Either you are held, or you are free, there is nothing in between. There should be a finer gradation in the mez system that would make mezzing and being mezzed more sensible.

For instance, immobs should have an irresistible movement slow component built in such that stacking them can actually do something to the mobs and individuals who have mez protection. The only thing that could counter the effect stacking should be slow resistance.

Holds should factor in a attack rate slow and movement slow stacking factor before being held completely.

Stuns should have a slight movement and turning rate penalty as well as an attack rate and slight recov and regen penalty before being fully stunned.

This would mean that granting mez protection for squishies would still give a penalty to being mezzed, it just wouldn't be so binary in form. Also, non squishies would have to worry about mezzes piling up versus shrugging them off completely.

As well, the whole knockdown, knockback and knockup system is borked to begin with. It should be separated so that extreme knockdown shouldn't be turned into knockback, and powers like ice patch and ice slick could actually make a difference against foes, even ones with knockback resistance etc.

Slows are about the only thing that I can see as having a graded system that stacks sensibly.

Of course, the other side to this type of equation is that when was the last time you saw the devs give something away for free? I'd rather they left well enough alone, since it's not THAT broken. The last time my favorite AT got 'looked at', I needed 5 respecs just to pull my toon apart to reconfigure everything.

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edit: in fact here is the comment-- This game isn't about poker. i laughed hard when i read that and thought about some of the things that are talked about in that section.