"You are under no obligation to save me" - A scrapperlock thread

I'm in the mood for some entertainment, so let's hear some stories! What are some times that you've gone into scrapperlock?

Was it a bad team that you were tired of waiting on? Was it an amazing team where everyone was off doing their own thing, accomplishing all the goals at once? Or did you simply get ahead of yourself and stuck in scrapperlock?

I know I keep saying "scrapperlock," but I realize any AT can go off soloing on a team.

I'll throw my two stories out there to start off. Both involve my bots/traps MM on two separate ITF's.

On the first one I joined a team with one of those overbearing, micromanaging leaders. Not always a bad thing, but I believe that if the team's doing alright, don't interfere. Anyway, we were in the caves to destroy the shadow cysts and I went one way while the other seven went another. After a minute the leader realized it, and said "We're split!" followed by "I can't keep you alive if you're not with the team."

Forgive me, but that comment pissed me off. I don't need to be kept alive. I may have less hitpoints than any other AT, but I am by no means squishy! I quickly replied "You are under no obligation to save me." and continued on my way.

In retrospect, I'm lucky I didn't get kicked for that. I think it was the stone brute that said "Let him go, his bots get in the way." who saved me.

The second case is a tragic story of failure. Our team had decided to jump to rommie, and then kill traitors. This awesome team then proceeded to straight up DPS kill Rommie four times in a row in a matter of minutes. (Amazing what four corruptors can do for a team.) After that, we all went our separate ways to take down traitors and finish the mission. Several of us jumped to one tower, and I, seeing it rather crowded, jumped to the second. I pulled one spawn that died quickly, and then ran into another three or so and faceplanted faster than ... well, just really damn fast.

I figured out what happened. The last time I summoned a FFG was before we started with rommie. Me and my bots jumped into three spawns of traitors 15% away from the softcap.

Oops.

Final room of the Lady Grey TF.

I believe my last words before I leapt into the huge spawn of Rikti while my team was still discussing pulling were 'YEEHAW.'

Nothing annoys me more than a hesitant tank. Pretty much, if I'm on a character that has a 50% or so chance of taking the alpha and living, and the one who's supposed to be taking the alphas is being a slowpoke, I'm jumping in. Debt barely slows down levelling these days. It's just a little bar that measures how much awesome you've generated recently. (If you're not getting debt, you're just not trying to generate awesome hard enough.)

In the last room of a warehouse in a police band mission, the team went down the ladder on the right, and I tore off on my scrapper (Fyst) to the left across the balcony.

Random team member: Team split! Fyst went the wrong way!

Me: Everything's under control. I have a wakie.

We reunited in the middle at the bottom after I took out the top and moved down the opposite ladder to arrest the mobs down there.

I play Tanks a lot, so I'm generally indifferent to the direction of the remainder of the team. Should they happen to follow me, I'll do what I can to keep them alive; otherwise, their lives are in their own hands. I'll be fine regardless.

I like the redside 'split up' mentality, mostly because almost everyone redside has a certain degree of self-sufficiency that they can handle it in small groups.

In an AE Farm recently I was on a near perfect team, only problem was, there was 2 Brutes tanking, together, they were fine, apart, they were crushed. No one believed my Crab Spider coul tank, so I decided to prove it. I went back to the beginning and started from the end and soloed half-way up the opposite side and ended up meeting the rest of the team there. Both Brutes were prompty kicked on teh next run.

I swear, most people just dont understand that I can tank AND give 21% defense to all for the entire team at the same time.

Also, I frequently jump ahead of my team to start tanking a bit early, and I usually yell "POWER!!!" in a 'Dark Lord of the Sith' kinda way whenever I solo multiple mobs that I overaggro with. :P

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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler you *******!!!!

Any TF where i need to exemp down with some lowbies and they want to clean the map when not needed. I usually just superspeed + stealth IO to the end of the map and proceed to solo the last room or the glowies while they're making their way through the map. Sometimes i'm fast enough they don't even have time to enter the map, lol. Now this should be fine but i'm usually something/dark so i'm far from being soft caped and at the lower levels the lack of IO set bonuses makes me pretty squishy. I tend to keep a stock of inspirations especially for that and there can be some fun fights.

I remember a Synapse TF where for the last mission most of the team couldn't stealth. I was so bored i ran to the king and planned on cleaning the trash here while waiting for them to make their way. Then two other scrappers joined me and... we just destroyed the AV and all the mobs while the team was still busy cleaning the mobs in the first rooms

However the most "epic" scrapperlock i had was a long time ago on my BS/shield against Romulus. The team was quite bad and the tank died, i had aggro so i thought, well, i'll just try to survive. Then i noticed the empath didn't heal me at all, because we had an argument about scrapper "tanking" and she kept telling me scrappers can't tank and i shouldn't jump on the mobs before the real tank. So of course she wanted me to die in there so she could laugh at me because, well, according to her i'm a scrapper, not a tank, and i shouldn't have any defense so i can do more damage.

It was rather pointless as i didn't have the dps to kill him solo but i ended up using everything i could, insps, temps, spaming aid self, but i could tank romulus + all the nictus for about 5min until the team came back after a general wipe... i was the only survivor and i died about 30sec after they joined the fight again because i ran out of inspirations and of course, the empath still didn't heal me at all I was quite proud of it and i never stepped back from romulus... it felt like a duel i had no chance to win, but damn that was fun.

Fun times as well at the beginning of Mission architect. On the first days we had some fun with freaks on the longbow map and only 3 force field generators. That was enough defense to keep me alive in the middle of 50+ freak bosses... with my spines/dark. But then i invited friends to have more mobs... and realized i was the only one to survive thanks to the heal. They never saw such a big wave of mobs so they all rushed the room then died in about 10sec, and i just stood there for 20min soloing in an ocean of freak bosses, with barely enough recharge to keep me alive with the heal. Lots of fun as well


Now for the thing i would LOVE to do in full scrapperlock. ITF. Last fight. With a BS/Shield scrapper. Just staring at Romulus from the opposite side, then run up to him through the 50 cimerorans and just solo him while not even paying attention to the adds because only Romulus is worth fighting. A straight duel like that. And i would be so strong i wouldn't even notice the poor cimerorans trying to hit me. THAT would be epic But sadly i can't see that happening without any kiting or clearing the adds first, sigh.

Hmm, lvl 28 bank mission (IP bank I believe). I was on my (non slotted except the attacks) EM/EA stalker. There were 2 MMs, a brute, a dom and a [EDIT]SoA(not a corruptor, he had Assault Rifle and I always get it mixed with corruptor).

It wasn't so much 'me' going into scrapperlock but the team. I'm always in control and don't consider what I do 'scrapperlocking'. Anyway, I loaded pretty slow so when I popped in, everyone but the dom and brute were in the bank. By the time I got to the brute to help, he face planted. I quickly followed afterwards cause I couldn't SJ away (glue grenades or whatever).

I don't know what happened but everyone in the bank died and went to jail. Me being the sneaky stalker I am, used an awake+breakfree and insta-hide so I didn't get rekilled. Something happened with the hero in the bank and didn't charge the jail. From there, everyone was dying > jailing while looking all over the map for the hero. Some were destroying stuff, some were fighting everything in their path, some were singling out Longbow flying about. Me? I performed a flawless solo kidnapping. I couldn't have done it without the team though, as we were running low on time. Destroying stuff and PPD got me the time to get the side job done and score us another 8min.

Eventually, at the 5min mark, someone finally found the hero flying *waaaaaaay* up in the air and we grounded him and took him out.

I felt like a villain team there despite the rough execution of the mission.

Scrapperlock on an lolsoloing Kin/Rad Defender.



'Nuff said. :P

I used to do similar things with my Fire/Trap Corruptor. With the pre-nerf poison trap, stealth, soft-capped S/L/E defense, the AoE capabilities of Fire and Aid Self for the little damage that occasionally got through, I could wipe out full 8 man spawns without breaking a sweat. Annoyingly, PT's recharge was too long, so I'd wipe out a spawn, go and help the team for a bit while it recharged, then run off and solo another one.

Then they nerfed Poison Trap, which removed much of my suvivabilty and damage

My main's battlecry is "BANZAI!!!!!"

If I'm playing him, I'm in scrapperlock, it's a given.

Commonly heard:

Claws and Effect: You 7 go that way, I'll go this way, we'll meet back here.

ITF, I was on my 50 rad/rad corruptor. I -usually- run right into the middle of mobs with my corr and picking them off quickly so I end up getting scrapperlocked. Well this is exactly what happened that day on the ITF. We were on the second mission and I was in the zone, doing well, killing traitors and suddenly out of nowhere found myself faceplanted.

I looked up to see that a few other squishies were either in the red or on the floor and knew immediately what happened. I said, "Oops. Didn't realize that was a crystal."

For the rest of that mission, everytime we came near a crystal I heard a version of "Sister, this is a crystal."

I was on an ITF with my SG mates (we actually got to have a full team of 8 for the first time in a long time and it was amazing) I was on my Fire/MM, who essentially has perma DP (like 3 seconds off). I was following my friend on his Spine/Regen scrapper and after like 15 minutes I realized that we had cleared half of the first map by ourselves, our team was on the other side of the map. While I wasn't by myself we both were scrapperlock, when our team asked what we were doin' we both said simultaneously "Oops...Scrapperlocked" by far one of the funniest things my SG mates and I had done.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Sure, the devs are supposed to listen to their customers, mister business 101 out there. And if I decide to start suggesting that the devs change the game from being about superheroes and supervillains to being about clowns that is my right as well, and technically Paragon Studios is supposed to pay attention to me. But I hope strongly that they assume a meth-head somehow managed to hack into my forum account and make paper airplanes out of my posts, because I hope they recognize stupid when they see it. I assume they will recognize futile just as accurately.

I have a bad habit of going into Scrapperlock on a Blaster and forgetting to watch my health. The pavement smacking me in the face tends to snap me out of it... unless I have Rise of the Phoenix.

First, I want to thank everyone for their stories. You have satiated my need for entertainment.

I've got another story to add today. (read: /tootmyownhorn)

Have you ever felt like you were pulling along dead weight?

I was running the ITF with my level 50 (isn't it funny how so many of these start this way?) bots/traps MM. This time, I was with an absolutely awful team. The leader was a /stone brute who died fairly often. See, when someone says fairly often about a blaster, I hear "every other fight," which is bad. By fairly often for a /stone brute, I mean two or three times per mission.

Tangent: Aren't granites supposed to be unstoppable? I can understand faceplanting to an 8 man spawn of psychic clockwork, but to mostly lethal damage of Cimerorans? What is this guy doing? There were two control sets running too! A mind dominator and a fire controller. How could he die in granite? HOW?! Anyway, I digress. Back to the story:

I tried to stick with the team this time for the first mission, but things were progressing egregiously slow for having two brutes that presumably want to keep fury. We jump up to the top bypassing the "ambushes" that I've never seen because I've always jumped to the top. Anyway, half the team runs right past the center flaming altar, and before you know it, we're in a sea of nictus. I see lots of little skulls show up in my team window, but somehow someone managed to lead Solaris back to the altar.

In the shadow cyst caves, we get through to the first shadow cyst and destroy it, practically wiping the team somehow. At this point I decide to take the path of least teammates. Seven go one way, I go the other.

I don't know what those baffoons were doing, but I counted at least four times that the stone brute died. I'm fighting down my chosen corridor with absolutely no help, taking out nictus, cyst, ambush, nictus, cyst, ambush... I destroyed four shadow cysts entirely on my own before I came to a fifth at the end of the tunnel. I start tearing up the nictus and am already targeting the cyst by the time my team shows up to wrap up the mission.

I'm thinking to myself... did I seriously just do this? Did I destroy 4 shadow cysts and ambushes in the time it took seven other people to do the same thing?

This reminds me of LÜBKE, something I posted some two years ago on the German boards. I would roughly translate it as iBITE (increased Brutishness In Ten Exercises).

1st exercise: Create a brute, any brute.

2nd exercise: Log in your brute and notice the funny bar below your health and endurance. This is the iBITE bar implemented into this game for our therapy by the cooperative devs. (Thanks again!) Watch what it does. Notice the difference between activity and inactivity. Notice how your xp bar behaves differently when you have high iBITE.

3rd exercise: Repeat to yourself "More iBITE means more awesome. Only a full iBITE bar is a good iBITE bar. I will never let down my iBITE bar." until you have fully understood the message and know it by heart.

4th exercise: Play your brute and try and keep your iBITE bar filled as much as possible. When it is about to reach zero do something, anything, to fill it again.

5th exercise: Repeat exercise 4 only without looking at the iBITE bar. Only look at the iBITE bar when checking your progress in guessing your current amount of iBITE.

6th exercise: Cover the upper right corner of your monitor with a sticker, a post-it or anything similar so that you can see neither your health bar nor your iBITE bar. Then repeat exercise 5.

7th exercise: Create a toon from any non-squishy AT other than a brute. Seeing the iBITE bar with these ATs is the tricky part. In most cases the iBITE bar is invisible, but if you try hard enough you will see it in your mind. This is a special kind of interface for this therapy only.

8th exercise: Repeat exercises 5 and 6 with your non-brute non-squishy AT. If at any point you receive comments from other players that acknowledge your awesomeness or insanity proceed to the next exercise.

9th exercise: Create a toon from any squishy AT. As with the previous ATs you have to access the special mind-interface to be able to see the iBITE bar. If you are still unsure you might want to create a dominator as that AT has a special version of the iBITE bar called iBITE U. (U stands for "uber" of course.)

10th exercise: Repeat exercises 5 and 6 with this toon. Notice other players' reaction to your playstyle. Mind that most people find it unusual for a defender to rip his shirt apart, scream "HELL YEAH!" and jump headfirst into the next spawn while the tanker is still tieing his shoelaces. Remember that words like "nutjob" and "insane" have essentially the same meaning as "awesome".

I can proudly say I have mastered all ten exercises. Repeatedly. Sometimes I survive.

We were doing a speed ITF, something we do fairly often. We were rescuing all the Sybils and we usually split into a few small teams of 2-4 and quickly rescue them. I was assisting a scrapper and controller in rescuing one and was reveling in bringing destruction down upon the Cimerorans. After flattening a majority of the ones around me, just having a few bosses still feebly swinging at me, I notice that my team is already exiting to go up to the oracle.

God, I love my Fire/Kin.

Dechs, was your very first story at the top recent? I think I was in that team with you, probably on my Ice/Kin Corruptor

If so, yeah, that guy was a bit...overbearing :P

A few ITFs ago, the Empath made the mistake of PBU+Fortituding and Adrenaline Boosting my Corr. He stuck with the team, while I hovered off and downed three of the cysts on my own <3

Since I mainly play melee toons I have a tendency to go into scrapperlock on every mish. Earlier today we were speed running the ITF on my elec/SR brute...fully spec'd and IO'd so its a rariety I even take dmg and if I do...its thunderstrike to clear a space and then aid self to fully heal. For the Sybils, I quickly maxed out aggro and fury just happily jumping from Sybil to Sybil laying waste while not able to see anything due to the mob when I finally notice that they rest of the team and left when I was teleported to the altar. With the shadow cysts, the crab and I cleared all 10 while the rest of the team were bogged down. I love it when they go boom and the team dies around me while my health bar stays full.

I know people denigrate SR but it is far and away my favorite secondary and I can generally outlast every other AT even without pressing the auto-win button.