Dual builds - switching on the fly

I'm good with that

what's the problem with telling the team: I'm in an alternate build right now, I have x amount of minutes to go before I can switch back. Unless you're running Eden or KTF for speed the 15 minute charger ain't a deal breaker when you start a Task Force, Trial, or Strike Force. I've been on plenty of TF's where we started, then after the first mish players went and changed into their team play builds.

IIRC, that colored part above is what is meant.

That would actually be cool.

I'd support that. 1 minute downtime at your current location would be better than say, crossing two zones to get to a trainer or something. Keep the trainer switching for people near them, but if I'm way out in the Hive or in the middle of a TF or something, a 1 minute cool down wouldn't be so bad.

I dunno about anyone else, but I'd actually be cool with this plan.

I'd get behind this, actually. I like this idea.

I'd go for that.

You softie, I'd add an irresistible minute long 1000 mag hold on top of all that and still like the flexibility.

This version would be MUCH more preferable, imho.

I'm glad we could come to this agreement will this be in I16.5 or I17?

Well if that's the case, at the very least, I want some kind of cool flashy effect while the "switch is being made". Like a prolonged ding or some-such.

But in any case, I do think it would be great -- as a hero -- to "situationally" change "load-outs", "armors", "magic rings", or however you'd like to put it. But.... I think this would be an extremely fair caveat in place of the inconvenience of running to a trainer to switch builds.

What if you could block the change if the character has an active mission or is in a PvP zone? If you're in the middle of a mission (or PvPing) you can't switch builds, so whatever build you start with you finish with. You'd need to be able to make a mission "inactive", so that you can reset the mission and change builds if you mess something up (the normal reset procedure would keep a mission active at all times), and/or maintain the ability to switch builds by speaking with a trainer.

This and needing to visit a Field Analyst/Fateweaver to change difficulty settings are two things that I find vastly more irritating then they probably warrant. (The difficulty thing is particularly frustrating when on teams. At the very least, the team leader should be able to tweak the teams difficulty settings between missions directly, without visiting anyone or having any teammates visit anyone.)

Hmmm. Can't see that working. "Oh I seem to have contracted the Vashok Plague". *switches build* "Ah, that's better. No flies on me mate".

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. It balances well with the trainer option; if you switch on-the-spot, your T9 has to recharge all the way, but if you go to the trainer, you're able to use it right away. It even adds a bit of RP to the switch; the trainer actually helps you with something.

As long as the recharge state didn't affect annoyingly long powers (Like Demonic Aura) then I would find myself using that.

i would be happy to be able to switch "on the fly" with those limitations.

I'm actually cool with this.

Cuz' that would be super right?

Kinda like SUPER side kicking?

What about SUPER build switching?

So you must be working for Cryptic to know this stuff for sure?


Cryptic might have been the name of the company, but Jack was long gone from the project, and the vast majority of the Dev team that's been working on the game stayed with the game when it got bought out by NCSoft. What was your point again?

And people are assuming that the one posting was around when there we just ONE build. I have 2 builds, and agree we should be able to change in a mission or at will to another build just for ease of the game. and not exploits...if you have the wrong build when playing the entire team can wait while you go change your build or you can do the mission over.. what is the difference.. GAME balance.. so sick of that comment.

If I as a stone stone go to a mission.. say in Oros.. and take a mission where my granite is gone then realize during the mission that my fire, ice, psy resistance now sucks.. I would like to be able to switch to the other toon that has brimstone or crystals on the build. Is this exploitive?.... I just want to play the game without endless travel back and forth to a NPC and then have to wait 15 minutes to play the game...

I am quite sure all those in favor of game balance can rack up endless examples of how this can be exploited. Save your typing. One day would be real nice to see a posting with an answers that are civil and give specific reasons why a complaint or idea wont work.

Only thing in my opionion on game balance is... to play the game longer to pay longer.

No.

And,

The point was that when all the kids wanted all this pretty color stuff (since they keep reminding me that they've wanted it for SUCH a long long long time, and that means Cryp was still in charge of things around that time) Cryptic said "No", then they put it in their other game, Champions Online; the first Superhero MMO with Power Color Customization, not City of Heroes/Villains. That was my point, I think I stated it there in my little post, I suppose you cannot comprehend or?

HOLD UP! Kept reminding you? Sorry you don't work for NCSoft or Cryptic. GTFO
CoX (Originally owned by Cryptic) Had the set up first, had the idea first. If you actually take a good hard look at CO you will notice that 90% of it is a direct rip from CoX. Whos copying who? Alien invasion for the training?
Yellow streakyness with superspeed?
The EXACT same Flight animations?
Color customization? CoX had it in development first. NCSoft is well known for keeping everything hush-hush then whipping out new updates when we least expect it (Like i16 for example, barely anybody knew that it was comin out till it got dropped into our lap)

As for the idea that Castle posted. I would be totally stoked if you guys implemented something like that! Add a emote and I'll spit-shine your sneakers (your geeks, I know you guys don't wear boots... )