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Stone Stone Brute Rogue Level 50=may be hero by then. .travel sucks as middle for these TF. @raymaiha -
Taps foot.. 4 and a half hours if maintain started as normal at 7 am eastern. Tappin foot.. so impatient for my game play.. lol Trying again in 5 minutes then again at noon... My tips await me.. my loyalist awaits me....
Ray -
Heres my 2 cents worth of whatever:
I have been playing for now 27 months... and very excited when I get my Vet rewards. Patiently waiting for my Black Wand or Staff. My bro has been playing for ... well he just got the City Traveler Vet Reward.. whatever time that is... to far ahead for me to keep track... but I do covet the things he has such as the Fairy, demon, robot pet and Vet Teleport!
I would never want the Vet Rewards to stop its a goal to strive for. My son had to not play his account for 4 months due to finances and he was disappointed that he lost some Vet time. Its fun to look forward to.
My one toon lusted for the Angel Wings to sleek her toon out, but I dont feel the game was better or worse for having them. I would have adapted the toon to what was available. I won CC before the nice Vet Wings.. and I won CC after the wings.
My thing with the topic of this chatter.. is the prestige. After 6 years a prestige bonus just seems... I want to say lame.. but trying to be nice. Once my toons hit 40 ish, I am in and out SG mode, based on what archs I am running. or AE.. and once 50 I dont hit SG mode again less I am working on some character SG badge like PVP. The money is to nice out of SG mode to bother for the pitiful few points I can gather.
My SG base was completely done with 3 peeps and alts in a few months of hard play. So maybe if the prestige bonus was offered earlier it wouldn't seem so lame.. say maybe at 3 months or 6 after a new player has their feet wet and can now start their own base.. and Coli off their current one.. or just to have one alone.
Some my bros Alts are not even in any my bases.. cause his toons.. LONERS...tsk... another story ...lol. But its story line.. character developement.
I watch prestige points of 3 and 15 and maybe 355 or whatever go by and think 10 percent of that is.. what .03 or 35 more points...I guess for a big SG with loads peeps would be wonderous,,,, that is if all those in the SG were 75 month vets.
Reguarding comments on the Entiltement... I waver back and forth on this.. I think that after 6 years of playing this game, some would feel entitled to having some sweet rewards after spending the money spent each month to play this game... and constantly waiting for new content. My 27 months of playing,, and owning every pack but the new pack from GR 6.99 special I have paid my dues... and await my dues. These dues were set by the devs....
I think the only problem I have with entitlement is thinking one should have every costume, weapon etc in the game at our disposal, then again.. those Succubus boots in Pocket D are sweet,,, and that sash from the Ring Mistress is a want,, and the Oracles gown is sassy... and I definately want.. desire and pant over Nightstars Dual blades.. I dont think every costume piece should be entitled to have... but then again.. as a villian.. if I kill you.. I am taking your clothes, weapons, boots and your money.
Well I rambled off topic again... maybe a revamping of the Vet powers would be a good idea. Offering things in a more timely manner...
Prestige at 3 or 6 months
City Traveler at 12 months.. after all... you have most likely played the game hard.. traveled all possible ways through Alts. Make my life easier so I dont have to take Hover or Air S to get to the sweet Fly. Wasted powers imo but for a defense slot.
Now a sweet reward like changing your entire toons powers to something different would so change this game!
Just thoughts and ideas....
Ray -
QUOTE:People, who are doing more than required by mission objectives, are durty XP/Inf/Prestige/Drops farmurs and exploiters.
So if one follows the mission objectives, BUT does a mission over and over, thats not farming? So if one does papers and banks at 4 and 8 over and over, thats not farming? So if one does every SF in a day for merits to get recipes, thats not farming? If I go to Nerva at level 30 and fight those red and purple COT and Arachnos till they are all grey to me.. this isnt farming? Or slags and Hellfrost in Sharkhead for exp.. over and over this isnt farming?
Leave AE alone...please or get rid the dang thing. THis past year should be called "The year of AE nerfs. Not one of my original ae's even exist in their original story form. The story was good, and never gave good /excellent experience, who wanted to play it? Friends. Peoples wanted the goodies.
My main does things over and over and over AND over.. cause there is nothing else to do but build up the toons, place those nice sets on so I have to do the same.. over and over and over to get the money needed to buy a recipe.. and then do it over and over again.. for the drops needed to make it.. or buy the 2nd piece to even get the first set bonus.
And the only way to build my toons is to do missions over and over and over again. AND OVER.
The only way to get money infamy influence is to do things over and over and over. Have you even visted the Market lately... its NOT free.. so requires me to do it over and over and over and OVER again. So isn't doing it over and over again considered farming? And if I find one good mission my build can manage to defeat well... and do over and over again ... is this an exploit I found with one my builds?
To get the damnable family or skulls defeat.. I have to fight them over and over and over again.. which.. gives me drops money and exp.
Seems to me the exploit is to have to PAY over and over and over again for my main toon to play this game, which I love.. but just cant stand the brown nosing whiners agreeing with every damn nerf out there. DO you whiners even play the dang game, or spend your game time bashing game play style. I say.. leave the game alone.. and let ALL people play as they desire and then add some content that lasts longer than a day to complete.
"Farming as its called has a reason.. to get to 50.. and when one gets to 50 what do they do... play some more, play harder to get that certain bulild to do what THEY want in the game. How does any of this interfer in anyones game time.. but some virgin 50s once in a blue moon asking the same questions.. thats just an answerable question. Sure you can shake your head.. he/she should know this by now... but damn who rightly cares how fast, how hard someone plays this game... 2 years in this game and still asking questions. STILL learning better builds.. and still doing the same thing over and over.
I am so damn tired signing on my days and few hours to play to maintain AGAIN.. over and over again..more than one time a week.
I am curious the percent of people so called farming and exploiting things in this game that are veterans of the game vs new people? I personally have 10+ level 50s, not a lot for my veteran time on this game, my son has an account 18 months, maybe 5 50s, we have PLAYED the game...new power new arch new anything comes out.. WHY do we have to start over again to do the same thing over and over and over again. Why do some of you feel it wrong to play as we intend to see a new toon made, its powers at max before slotting and not have to take months and months and months to do it... months and months and months eqates to money and money and money...If the percent of these farmers are VETS,,, then the word VET should prove they intend to stay in the game.
I will stop the wall of words.... getting annoyed saying the same thing over and over.
RAY
SIGNATURE LINE:Always wonder, "is there a whiner, brown nose or exploit finder badge? I haven't done that yet... so maybe I can do that over and over again... well.. guess I get the WHINER badge today! -
That's a bit much. While I'm fine with a Task Force requiring one archtype or another, and I have no problems with the Lady Grey Hamidon requiring a Controller or a Dominator Quote.....
I do have issues of the perfect team, it is already hard enough to get a team together to play anything anymore. Most SF take us almost 45 minutes to an hour to get formed... switching toons accordingly and then praying the peeps playing know what they are doing.. or can listen to directions. Over the past year or so I have been forced to play alone.. and like it mind you. But forced to play alone from lack of peeps on my server. Then the wonderful BMT redside channel was born and players united. And I love the teaming.. but once again I do not like having to be forced to team to complete a task and NOW I am being forced to find the perfect team to finish a task... yeah yeah.. I am waiting for the FORCED comments to come back. I want to complete everything in the game... why make it so friggen hard to achieve?
Well as of May 18th 2010 the Lady G Sf was not beatable with our team. I wont even say who was on team, because it irritates me on the micro managing of teams to get the so called perfect team to get a mission done. This so called ALT friendly game.. just forces hard players to HAVE to go make another toon, chase accolades and defeats down to get all the goodies of demonic and so on so they can have the alt toon for a SF/TF. In the last month a friend had to make a Dominator/sleeper so he could, we could enjoy Lord Recluse SF. I think he also made a MM recently to be able to enjoy Barracudas SF and not having to call and call and wait and wait for the perfect team. But aside all that... Lady Grey if fixed, should be avoided less have the perfect hold team. We played the Hami part for over an hour, trying different ways green mitos first... changing to next mito... working Hami then mitos to no avail. We only kept fighting and changing waiting for the many petitions that were sent to be answered. And after an hour or more no help came.
And another topic, do these peeps that come to assist even PLAY the game? I had assistance for a glitched Silos SF in Oros.. that the helper person.. Moved the Jade Spider to my area.. and said.. kill this BIG thing, Like I was some idiot and couldnt see it... laughing I said.. it is a friendly, then he proceeded to move Ghost Widow for the kill and .. I was like you have got to be kidding me...after several chats and loads of misunderstandings.. the mission was advanced.
Well thats my ramblings for the day... its just my opinion... dont kill the messanger
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I whole heartedly agree with this concept..my opinion so be it.
I am paying for a game right now with my Main being Level 50 Stoner for over a year, and a hand ful of alts. I play to have fun, and right now.. no fun or love for the stoner to do but a few Oros mishes I am slagging on to go back to level 14 or so to finish. Still have some defeat badges.. I just dont care to get.
I play my toons hard, I dont try to super uberize their powers... am now cause nothing else to do. So if I want to try a new powerset.. I am all out for having to pay for a 50 from this company. Could be a vet reward, could have to have so many 50s before offered.
Some just like the PVP aspect, and it takes a damn long time to get a new build up to par to play.
Why enjoy the journey if I have taken the trip so many times already, the view is the same, food could be good still same old thing.
We did a LRSF with 8 and 5 never did it before, and one didnt even have an Oros portal, took an extra few minutes before the mish to explain what was happening,,, dropped a portal for the toon, showed them what to do... and regrouped if there were issues of not understanding or listening.. was not so hard to TEACH someone or assist someone to the game.. speed leveled or normal.
I personally didnt play SF for the first 9 months I played here.. even longer. At that time.. you had to be part of the "in" crowd to get an invite...
so i will take newbies over nothing.....
Personally I would like a side kick at level 50... a new toon I can bring out with my Main like a pet.. to train and play the game with. Chew on that idea for a while.. I am sure I will be killed by the 5th response.
My new toon should be named KILL THE MESSANGER
Its an awesome idea.....
ray -
Maintain is usudally on Thursdays now.. today was a surprise to all of us.. that started a SF.... so needless to say we barely finished on time.
Ray -
Morning All.... Well being present yesterday for the mass move to Champs United, I had to come and look at all the mumblings of why so many peeps are so called upset at the new BMT Redside channel.
Not very many things to say different than Ima Mankiller, agree to all the points made. As well as this basic point.. you dont like the new channel.. dont join. Champions villians has been very very quiet since last summer, and after this channel was made, we have had great times talking of toons, and joining SF. First scheduled by 2 people to commit their time on the weekends to run them, to now daily SM, LR, or Respec Mishes. There are committed (and maybe Insane) people to help others.
I .. Me and only I prefer the REDSIDE channel.. because I ASSummed that it was going to be for REDSIDE only. Until last week, all my heros were on Infinity or Freedom, just how I decided to play, till some silly accident happen and got a base on Champs Blue side. So now my son has a hero and I moved a 50.
So rambling along, I really didnt want to hear blue side TF badge hunting chatter all day when I am a REDSIDE player. I play redside 95% of the time. And with being a 95% of the time redside player in the beginning.. seeing TF.Sf called out.. I can say I have joined a bunch of them from the wrong side..since I didnt know what Tf/Sf was what.
Recently I was trying to form a team to finish my TV contact up, and invited others to open their TV mish... from the BMT REDSIDE channel.. and got heros.. now getting a hero from Champions to switch out.. is I quess okay. But again assuming its a redside channel, I assume its for VILLIANS. Well I couldnt put the team together since, I had one from Virtue, one from Liberty and so on. So all the channels out there.. some need to learn to use them, turn them off... or just NOT join.
As far as everyone being an Operator.. take me out my narrow box, who cares. Having a few with a power trip sucks just as much as having many. One person made a comment yesterday and was booted off. Some were so happy while others making the same comments still exist on the channel. All for having fun
My primary server is Champions, so I know what the BMT redside means, maybe a Champions Redside channel would be better named.. kk? Another channel.. someone start one.
While I have my little opinion.... there are children on this game. And yes I do train my kids my neices to guard what they do, as in team invites, chats etc. Not all time on game can be governed. So FREE chatter on channels does not mean morbid, sexual based chatter should be accepted either. Make a team, chatter away and talk that crap in private.
My son had a slew of channels cause he didnt know better, and as I myself have done.. that small box for an invite, like getting a damn fortune in battle, comes up. You click it yes or no.. some answered on accident.. and blam your in a new channel.
Its a damn channel... who cares, life is a drama, this is a game. I have been many channels.. to see which suits me best. And a NO hero channel was ideal. I dont think killing a channel is worth losing what was gained.
Still trying to figure out how anyone can have a channel nerfed? Let me know in the game.
I am a server down poster in boredom.. I don't live here.. and dont kill the messanger.
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I am in for the hami.. I am a stoner stone brute...count me in.
Now here is my suggestion... if we are going to plan something like this that requires Nukes, Shivan and so forth. Why not schedule those events as well. One night for the Shivan run, one night for vanguard or a tad more. With Thursdays MS raid run.. with Lord D. Also.. usually the night before Fridays, we have farmed the EOEs on monster island.
My brute.. has decent defense, mud pots and hurl.. with some taunt on some powers..but no acutal taunt.. so let me know what team I would be on. I do not have, only raptor.. but I am damn squishy out of granite.
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Quote:Yeah -- a lottery as an ADDITIONAL source of inf drain, particularly one that paid off badly so that it took much more money out of circulation than it put back in, would exert badly-needed anti-inflationary pressure. Something that costs us MORE money than we are now losing. But not one that recycles the market fees back into purchasing power, unless you want to pay 50 million for a yellow TO.
edit: wait a minute -- you spent half a billion on one enhancement, and you're looking for free money? Enhancements cost half a billion because of you.
Can you tell me how it costing half a million is MY fault... such friggen ignorant rude people on these boards... it was JUST a comment of something fun to do in the game.. thats all... no killing the economy.. lawd.. such touchy people....have some damn fun -
Hoping for some help, have had a lot of advice on building a good brute that is stone stone... and some good some not so good.. and some still out there.
My biggest concern is endurance.. which I am sure is the common thread. I have listened back and forth on damage/acc vs acc/recharge. Fighting set vs.. acrobatics.... Build up or not.. Mud pots at 1 or 4 or 6.
I have had all these builds at one time or another.. still fighting and losing endurance, popping blues all the time.
I am at the basics of understanding the numbers and Mid's is just not an option for me.. I cant read the charts or the placements due to visual problems.
Here is my build......
All the melee powers are slotted 5 with 5 slotted Crushing impacts... as recommened by others... did this and seems the 5th is worthless.. since I have 40 percent recharge now.. that is turned to the red as soon as granite is applied. Is it worth wasting this slot for a still negative effect after... even though the negative is better than it was before.?
I have FF on my KB power.. fault or tremor.. cant remember at this time... for the run speed and I believe acc bonus.
I have scirracos.. on mud pots at 4 slots for the bonus... have all this ACC bonus.. and my heavy mallet still misses most the time... not sure why.
Before I placed all the sets of Crushing.. I had a hodge podge of Crushings with hamis damage acc or damage range with basic IOS of acc or damage range or recharge
I got some end recovery by slotting stamina with 6 Efficency. Miracle in Health and Earth.. and some from Gravitational Anchor in my electric fences.
I just dont know where else to find more endurance.
I have read the guides on here on stoners.. but they seem to be outdated to stop at the IOs only and does not include sets.
Also.. if you had ONE hecatomb damage .. where would you put that.. and then where would you put the chance to IOS? I have placed them in my KB fault or tremor.. one of them.. can never remember which does which without looking.
Is comparing my toons build to NEMISIS the problem here? Is it the lack of smash and lethal melee why I see so many misses.. or what?
I am not a new player.. just an ignorant one.. wanting to learn.. so please be nice on your replys. -
Everytime I have to pay for the Market or my base.. its like okay where is te money going within the economy of the game. Well I know its fake money and goes nowhere... but I thought after I found St Martial and the slot machine how fun it would be to have the money spent on the Market and bases to be put into some kind of gaming system to earn money or just a lottery.
So today the Market raised 1.5 BILLLOOOON Dollars.. and have a chance once a day, once an hour or whatever to win all the loot or a percent based on who pulls the arm on the slots at the time.
The good sets are so hard to obtain within the game because of the large price tags on things such as hecatombs or PVP enhancements. I know that you can obtain them by doing SF and other things from the merit system... this is just an idea for some fun in the game.
I spent half a billion on one enhancment, would be sweet to have a new way to get that back besides the dreaded "farming" the game at 50 for money or passing money between my toons. -
Quote:The way i see it, for the longest time there was only a single build per character, and we survived that way. So now that we have two we should just be thankful. =]
And people are assuming that the one posting was around when there we just ONE build. I have 2 builds, and agree we should be able to change in a mission or at will to another build just for ease of the game. and not exploits...if you have the wrong build when playing the entire team can wait while you go change your build or you can do the mission over.. what is the difference.. GAME balance.. so sick of that comment.
If I as a stone stone go to a mission.. say in Oros.. and take a mission where my granite is gone then realize during the mission that my fire, ice, psy resistance now sucks.. I would like to be able to switch to the other toon that has brimstone or crystals on the build. Is this exploitive?.... I just want to play the game without endless travel back and forth to a NPC and then have to wait 15 minutes to play the game...
I am quite sure all those in favor of game balance can rack up endless examples of how this can be exploited. Save your typing. One day would be real nice to see a posting with an answers that are civil and give specific reasons why a complaint or idea wont work.
Only thing in my opionion on game balance is... to play the game longer to pay longer. -
Quote:It is rather interesting that you can make comments on my knowledge of the game based on a post. Also not sure why so many have to be down right insulting. And so what if I am in the game for the challenge or the rewards... its is what it is.. I am in it for what I can get based on what I want for the game. The poster was talking about what he gets for what he does based on the challenge.. that is all. My comments on the boron.. while the money value may have been off... who friggen cares if it was it was JUST THE FACT.. that fighting an AV based mission.. would expect something MORE than a lower level SO drop.Stheno is an AV, what did you expect? To just walk in and smack her down?
Also, please show me ANY level Science Endurance SO "Boron Exposure" worth 100k.
You also neglect to mention the 9 reward merits for finishing the "Snake Fest" story arc.
How well DO you know this game?
I'm sorry but your post is just light on the "challenge" part and heavy on the "reward" part. It screams the same thing as all the other posts that say "I'm in it for the challenge". That's bull. You're in it for the reward first, and just do what you gotta do to get it. You don't care about the "challenge". In fact, all the numerous boss farms in the AE just show the same thing. It's not about the "challenge" (they all try to reduce the challenge as low as possible)... it's all about the "what's in it for me?"
Dont assume from one posting you can lump me into a blanket of other postings.. that I dont know the game .. from forgetting the merits or wanting to address reward over challenge.
I have played this toon for almost 2 years off and on with other toon developement over boredom at reaching 50, and reaching 50;s on my own. I do know of Oroborus and have completed most of the missions, just to complete one toon. Once you complete most the archs in Oros... whats left then? Do the same thing again at a higher level.. harder level for the CHALLENGE of the game... laughable.
Going back to the game.. the banter is useless... far be it to discuss anything on these without worry of getting insulted by those that think they are better or know more -
Sorry all... I wrote within the quote assumed it would be colored or italiced... hope you can follow
Ray -
Quote:Maybe the posters definition of exploits and yours are not the same.....makes me laugh that the only posts on this board on farming and AE are those that are againist it. Find me a role playing game that is not exploited in some way... find me a game that someone does not find the baddie that drops a rare item.. drops great exp or money and farms that baddie till they see them in their dreams.... ANYONE ever hear of a Metal Slime.... found all kinds of ways to exploit that sucker..If your goal is to say "I did that" then why do you need xp/inf/drops along with that? If your true goal is a sense of accomplishment, why do the shinies (or lack thereof) matter? If you're pressing buttons to beat even level foes, and pressing buttons to beat high level/rank foes, how is beating the latter by any stretch of the imagination "hard work"?
I am going to make comments to this thread and then add my own at the end...... How can you even compare "pressing" a button for an even level baddie and comparing to a challenged purple level baddies as just "pressing" buttons. To be able to "press" the button.. requires loads of game play to afford the character building process that this game has set up. Purple recipes costing over a half a billion and now the PVP costing half a trillion it is HARD work to progress thru this game to get a toon that can take the challenges. Wanting to complete challenging archs and bossings is rather thrilling... BUT/AND I am sure many want also to receive GOOD infamey, rare recipes and whatever other nice prize is available. This entire game is set up on risk and reward... it drives you from Level 1 thru 10 so fast, that your whamped with debt. Okay I rambled there....but from Level 1 we are driven to reach the next level.. driven to create recipes from drops... and since Issue 16 the drops just suck... if I get one more kinetic weapon on a 2 plus 8 mish I will scream.
You speak out of both sides of your mouth. Make up your mind what your motivations are, and let them motivate you, or not. Your choice.
The person who wrote this thread made a choice... it said.. I want a challenge AND I want the rewards for it... how is that talking out of 2 sides of a mouth... why does ANYONE think that a board gives anyone free reign to be just rude.
PS If you were facing 300 bosses in a room without breaking a sweat, you were using an exploit. You're using the specialized spawning rules of AE, in conjunction with the aggro limits to gain an unfair advantage in terms of rewards as opposed to people who cannot. Just because you don't feel it was one, doesn't mean it wasn't.
I was not an avid fan of the AE farm, never gonna say I didnt use it... it killed real game play for a while.. but anyone that finds any way to make the game WORK FOR THEM.... and what THEY want... BRAVO to you.
It seems all the answers to this thread are negative.. noone agrees? Everyone wants to just challenge the 300 comment.. challenge the unfair use of AE or whatever the poster did to spawn 300 plus baddies. I do believe the reason for the new level system was to "Provide more challenge"... the point missed in all the ******** over his/hers assumed tactics is that he would like to be rewarded based on the challenge level.....I got a boron exposure for beating Sthenos.. took 4 deaths.. 2 trips to the market and AE for large inspirs and finally calling some team mates in to finish it.... YES I WANT A BIG reward.
"Pats self on back for winning the challenge"... laughs at getting maybe 50K for finishing.... and a boron worth maybe 100K.....
My rambling will quit for now.. since I will go off on the numerous disappointments I have right now in the game that has driven my bored *** to the foreums in the first place.
But an answer to the question.. Thugs... 2 months and we can go to closed beta... that will be my final test if I want to invest anymore of my 4 years of Vet on this game... waiting for the promises of new content every 3 months. Costumes are great... colored powers even greater... but I want a story and a game to play after I hit 50 and have spent 4 billion on enhancments..... LOL just slotting them... so funny... I guess you have no clue how much game play is required to by ONE Hecatomb damage....
Again I am rambling... and BE NICE on your replays...